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[quote]zephead4747 wrote:
Vicomte wrote:
zephead4747 wrote:
Vicomte wrote:
zephead4747 wrote:
Vicomte wrote:
Average drunk home-invading Jane carries the same risk for harm to you as plane-riding Muslim Joe, that is, next to none. Do you really feel that threatened by girls so drunk their screams are slurred? I don’t.

Are you seriously trying to compare the violence rates of muslims as a whole versus home invaders as a whole? You better get soem data to back that, becuase it is illogical at best.

You lose.

It’s an analogy, used to illustrate a point, not a statistical comparison. Are you really this moronic? We’re talking about a fucking drunk girl. Not an armed thug.

I think I really am done now, as this is going nowhere. Feel free to murder the next drunken bitch that stumbles belligerently into your abode. Tell me how that feels, you Machiavellian hard-ass you! God Speed!

Oh why don’t you go paint your fingernails.

Seriously? Grow up. That’s twice in one thread. If you guys can’t refute my argument based on the principles of the debate, and feel the need to attempt to insult me by the fact that I color my fucking fingernails, that’s just pathetic. Not only does it fail, but it makes you look like a petty imbecile.

I think I might redo them tonight, actually. They’re a bit chipped…then again, I kinda like 'em like that. They look more interesting.

Seriously? you took a stab at me, and I made a joke in your direction. You must be pretty insecure about it if you can’t take a ribbing.

Relax buddy, I don’t think less of you for it. I made several good points, and you made some shitty comparison and used it as evidence.[/quote]

You ignored the rest of my argument–about two pages of it, and focused on a hyperbolic analogy. I provided counterpoints as needed.

Perhaps your comment wasn’t as mean-spirited as it seemed, if that’s the case, my apologies. I was referring to you in context of the argument, it appeared that you were making irrelevant ad hominem statements. If not, then we’re cool.

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[quote]Vicomte wrote:
zephead4747 wrote:
Vicomte wrote:
zephead4747 wrote:
Vicomte wrote:
zephead4747 wrote:
Vicomte wrote:
Average drunk home-invading Jane carries the same risk for harm to you as plane-riding Muslim Joe, that is, next to none. Do you really feel that threatened by girls so drunk their screams are slurred? I don’t.

Are you seriously trying to compare the violence rates of muslims as a whole versus home invaders as a whole? You better get soem data to back that, becuase it is illogical at best.

You lose.

It’s an analogy, used to illustrate a point, not a statistical comparison. Are you really this moronic? We’re talking about a fucking drunk girl. Not an armed thug.

I think I really am done now, as this is going nowhere. Feel free to murder the next drunken bitch that stumbles belligerently into your abode. Tell me how that feels, you Machiavellian hard-ass you! God Speed!

Oh why don’t you go paint your fingernails.

Seriously? Grow up. That’s twice in one thread. If you guys can’t refute my argument based on the principles of the debate, and feel the need to attempt to insult me by the fact that I color my fucking fingernails, that’s just pathetic. Not only does it fail, but it makes you look like a petty imbecile.

I think I might redo them tonight, actually. They’re a bit chipped…then again, I kinda like 'em like that. They look more interesting.

Seriously? you took a stab at me, and I made a joke in your direction. You must be pretty insecure about it if you can’t take a ribbing.

Relax buddy, I don’t think less of you for it. I made several good points, and you made some shitty comparison and used it as evidence.

You ignored the rest of my argument–about two pages of it, and focused on a hyperbolic analogy. I provided counterpoints as needed.

Perhaps your comment wasn’t as mean-spirited as it seemed, if that’s the case, my apologies. I was referring to you in context of the argument, it appeared that you were making irrelevant ad hominem statements. If not, then we’re cool.[/quote]

don’t worry about it.

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Time to retire this abortion of a thread. Too many of you came in and just posted unrelated scat and didn’t read any of my posts. If you want to start over and get my GF’s point of view you can go here http://www.T-Nation.com/free_online_forum/music_movies_girls_life/weird_night_hopefully_people_will_read_this_time

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After reading this atrocity of a thread, just a couple of kwik notes:

  1. I am sure the OP is just expressing frustration over this CRIMINAL (thats what unlawful entry and assault make her) getting away with it. I honestly don’t believe he would have beat up a drunk chick just for GP.

  2. Anyone that forces there way into my house is a threat until I ensure they are not. Either by putting them out of the house or making it so they cannot cause harm to me or a loved one.

  3. There are always people who are willing to sit by and pass judgement without ever having been there. Other peoples moral superiority means nothing to me. My safety and the safety of my family does. I was not there and cannot pass judgement on this person as easily as everyone else. But I am morally bankrupt.

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[quote]sjoconn wrote:
After reading this atrocity of a thread, just a couple of kwik notes:

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Holy fucking shit somebody actually read and had an intelligent opinion based on the stated event. Thanks it warms my heart and rekindles my hope for humanity.

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[quote]Who said anything about respect? All I know is that when shit happens (in real time, not in fantasy land like you hippies think) your only option is to react.

I will not defend the OP beating her ass after the fact or hunting her down days later, but IF during the heat of the moment he punched a fucking female in the face for breaking into his house, I won’t view him as a sexist woman beater who needs to get in touch with his inner Oprah.

I want to know where you mother fuckers live, cuz I can obviously barge into your house without any recourse. [/quote]

What the fuck are you talking about? Read your original post. Then read my post again.

“This shit happens”. What the fuck is that even supposed to mean? That’s the kind of phrase you use when talking about organ harvesting in China. Or mass genocide. Not about some drunk girl stumbling into the wrong room. No one said this shit doesn’t happen. Read my post again. Then read it once more because it obviously isn’t getting through to you.

“OP fuck the hippies on this site, I think you were right. These are the same people who want to take away guns from law abiding citizens. Protect you and yours.” Does this sound like your not defending him? Yes. Read his post again. Then read my post again. OP is a bitch. He pissed his pants when it was time to react and now he wants to play the hard man. “Hitting her in the face in the heat of the moment” and holding her down and beating the shit out of her are two different things. And lets not forget that this is a girl his girlfriend easily overpowered. I’m not going to reiterate every point. You need to read my post again. Did you even read it the first time?

And finally… YOU DARE CALL ME A HIPPY. You who need a gun to defend yourself against an uncoordinated fat chick? Your are a overpriveleged fool who thinks that this amounts to a serious situation. You think that a drunk girl acting like a drunk girl warrants police and weaponry. You are exactly the kind of person who would condider an event like this “traumatic”. Obviously nothing of any consequence has happened to you and yours and you overreact wildly when something of little consequence happens to someone else. You want to sound like a tough man. A guy who’s seen it all. You sound like a posh ponce.

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[quote]duffyj2 wrote:
And finally… YOU DARE CALL ME A HIPPY. You who need a gun to defend yourself against an uncoordinated fat chick? Your are a overpriveleged fool who thinks that this amounts to a serious situation. You think that a drunk girl acting like a drunk girl warrants police and weaponry. You are exactly the kind of person who would condider an event like this “traumatic”. Obviously nothing of any consequence has happened to you and yours and you overreact wildly when something of little consequence happens to someone else. You want to sound like a tough man. A guy who’s seen it all. You sound like a posh ponce.[/quote]

She wasn’t acting like “a drunk girl,” she was acting like an extreme angry drunk who unlawfully entered someones home and assaulted his wife. That is not how the typical drunk girl acts. If she’s already shown to be that aggressive over nothing, there is no way of saying how far she would go. People are saying that it’s extreme to say that she “could have a gun,” when there was no sign of one, but that’s just not true. My job involves me working with these people, and I have seen people arrested because, in their drunken mindset, they got pissed off, grabbed a knife or even a gun, and stabbed/shot the person. It doesn’t matter how big she is, or her sex, anyone can pull a trigger, and while his wife was overpowering her, that might have been all it took for the drunk girl to decide she needed to take that next step.

I think the comment he made was in bad taste, but I don’t take it as something he’d seriously want to do. I have a feeling if he were to randomly spot this girl out on the street, he probably wouldn’t run over to her and beat the fuck out of her.

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It would have been completely inappropriate if he had actually run after her and beat her ass, but I don’t think there’s too much wrong or abnormal with having some idle desire for some sort of retribution after the fact as long as it remains unfulfilled. I’m sure the guy feels quite personally violated and so it’s not too shocking that he would have these sorts of feelings.

There’s nothing wrong with having destructive thoughts or desires in response to something like this as long as they remain such. In actuality the guy handled the situation fine and if he wants to vent bitterly over it to help him cope or whatever then I have no problem with that.

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Sorry to hear about the assault and you having to watch Tron.

What I’m not sorry about is the pancakes I was eating at roughly the time of the assault. I made both blueberry pancakes and chocolate chip pancakes, topped off with real butter and Vermont Grade A Amber maple syrup. Yeah, that’s right, to hell with that cheap Canadian maple syrup.

DB

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[quote]etaco wrote:
It would have been completely inappropriate if he had actually run after her and beat her ass, but I don’t think there’s too much wrong or abnormal with having some idle desire for some sort of retribution after the fact as long as it remains unfulfilled. I’m sure the guy feels quite personally violated and so it’s not too shocking that he would have these sorts of feelings. There’s nothing wrong with having destructive thoughts or desires in response to something like this as long as they remain such. In actuality the guy handled the situation fine and if he wants to vent bitterly over it to help him cope or whatever then I have no problem with that.[/quote]

Where is the drunk girls boyfriend in this whole situation? and yes I can understand wanting to kick her ass but aren’t you kind of a punk if your not thinking I’m going to kick THEIR ass?

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[quote]duffyj2 wrote:
Who said anything about respect? All I know is that when shit happens (in real time, not in fantasy land like you hippies think) your only option is to react.

I will not defend the OP beating her ass after the fact or hunting her down days later, but IF during the heat of the moment he punched a fucking female in the face for breaking into his house, I won’t view him as a sexist woman beater who needs to get in touch with his inner Oprah.

I want to know where you mother fuckers live, cuz I can obviously barge into your house without any recourse.

What the fuck are you talking about? Read your original post. Then read my post again.

“This shit happens”. What the fuck is that even supposed to mean? That’s the kind of phrase you use when talking about organ harvesting in China. Or mass genocide. Not about some drunk girl stumbling into the wrong room. No one said this shit doesn’t happen. Read my post again. Then read it once more because it obviously isn’t getting through to you.

“OP fuck the hippies on this site, I think you were right. These are the same people who want to take away guns from law abiding citizens. Protect you and yours.” Does this sound like your not defending him? Yes. Read his post again. Then read my post again. OP is a bitch. He pissed his pants when it was time to react and now he wants to play the hard man. “Hitting her in the face in the heat of the moment” and holding her down and beating the shit out of her are two different things. And lets not forget that this is a girl his girlfriend easily overpowered. I’m not going to reiterate every point. You need to read my post again. Did you even read it the first time?

And finally… YOU DARE CALL ME A HIPPY. You who need a gun to defend yourself against an uncoordinated fat chick? Your are a overpriveleged fool who thinks that this amounts to a serious situation. You think that a drunk girl acting like a drunk girl warrants police and weaponry. You are exactly the kind of person who would condider an event like this “traumatic”. Obviously nothing of any consequence has happened to you and yours and you overreact wildly when something of little consequence happens to someone else. You want to sound like a tough man. A guy who’s seen it all. You sound like a posh ponce.[/quote]

Cuz drunk people have never been dangerous to those around them right? You are a fucking hippie. I bet your gay ass prances around in bell bottoms, a la Mike fucking Brady, waiting to play the victim. If someone barges in your house they better be prepared for what is coming. If you don’t belong in MY FUCKING HOUSE, you better not bust in acting like a fucking lunatic. But I digress, I cannot sway someone who obviously lives in dreamland.

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[quote]dk44 wrote:
Cuz drunk people have never been dangerous to those around them right?
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They have and they are…which is why it was fucking idiotic to have opened the door in the first place. He can wish the lady dead for all I care, but there was absolutely no sensible reason to have opened the door, period. Sometimes dumbasses have dumbass shit happen to them is more the way it is.

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I am glad neither your girlfriend or you were injured and I am also glad it didn’t get to the point where you had to get physically violent.

When I read it, it just doesn’t come across as that much of a traumatic incident, but I wasn’t there!

Also, I think if you had involved yourself into physically halting or hitting the girl, I am thinking that afterwards when things were done and over, although you may have felt in the right, a part of you would not have liked that you had done it.

so how it all happened is for the best

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[quote]Molotov_Coktease wrote:
They have and they are…which is why it was fucking idiotic to have opened the door in the first place. He can wish the lady dead for all I care, but there was absolutely no sensible reason to have opened the door, period. Sometimes dumbasses have dumbass shit happen to them is more the way it is.[/quote]

I don’t blame his GF for opening the door.

Because of this part of the original post: “Now you are probably wondering wtf my gf answered the door. Well she said she heard the girl saying, “get off of me, stop, that hurts”. So my gf thought the chick needed help but it was probably the guy trying to get her to leave and not come to our door.”

But of course, I’m going off his word. It may have not went down like that, but assuming he isn’t lying, then I don’t think his GF was at fault.

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[quote]Makavali wrote:
Molotov_Coktease wrote:
They have and they are…which is why it was fucking idiotic to have opened the door in the first place. He can wish the lady dead for all I care, but there was absolutely no sensible reason to have opened the door, period. Sometimes dumbasses have dumbass shit happen to them is more the way it is.

I don’t blame his GF for opening the door.

Because of this part of the original post: “Now you are probably wondering wtf my gf answered the door. Well she said she heard the girl saying, “get off of me, stop, that hurts”. So my gf thought the chick needed help but it was probably the guy trying to get her to leave and not come to our door.”

But of course, I’m going off his word. It may have not went down like that, but assuming he isn’t lying, then I don’t think his GF was at fault.[/quote]

Mak… then she opens the door and gets what is out there.

but what I don’t get is what is it we were all supposed to discuss about the thread?

was it that drunk people suck? That girls shouldn’t open doors by themselves late at night? That hitting girls is a bad thing?

I didn’t get the discussion aspect, so I think this was just a vent thread

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[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:
I didn’t get the discussion aspect, so I think this was just a vent thread[/quote]

This is a thread about how marijuana should be the mainstream intoxicant of choice instead of alcohol, right? I mean, weigh up the sides effects of booze with the side effects of weed.

Weed side effects:

  • Happy (and possibly horny)
  • Hungry
  • Sleepy

…

… where am I?

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[quote]Makavali wrote:
Molotov_Coktease wrote:
They have and they are…which is why it was fucking idiotic to have opened the door in the first place. He can wish the lady dead for all I care, but there was absolutely no sensible reason to have opened the door, period. Sometimes dumbasses have dumbass shit happen to them is more the way it is.

I don’t blame his GF for opening the door.

Because of this part of the original post: “Now you are probably wondering wtf my gf answered the door. Well she said she heard the girl saying, “get off of me, stop, that hurts”. So my gf thought the chick needed help but it was probably the guy trying to get her to leave and not come to our door.”

But of course, I’m going off his word. It may have not went down like that, but assuming he isn’t lying, then I don’t think his GF was at fault.[/quote]

Did you know that in most domestic situations, when bystanders act to try and ‘help’ the woman, she ends up turning on and actually attacking the person helping? Couple that with drunkennes…recipe for disaster. Nope, If I heard drunks yelling in my parking lot, then outside my door…I would not open my door. I would call the cops if I had to, but nope, I wouldn’t put myself in harms way. Sorry, I’m still going to call dumb ass move.

Now, had they burst through or kicked in the door… this is a whole other matter.

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[quote]Molotov_Coktease wrote:
Did you know that in most domestic situations, when bystanders act to try and ‘help’ the woman, she ends up turning on and actually attacking the person helping? Couple that with drunkennes…recipe for disaster. Nope, If I heard drunks yelling in my parking lot, then outside my door…I would not open my door. I would call the cops if I had to, but nope, I wouldn’t put myself in harms way. Sorry, I’m still going to call dumb ass move.

Now, had they burst through or kicked in the door… this is a whole other matter.

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Boy, did I find that out the hard way. Ended up getting my hair pulled out while the boyfriend kicked me in the face.

I figured that by the way he was slapping her around the bar and she was screaming for help that she actualy wanted it. Turns out that all of the regulars knew that they do this once a week.

Ah, the good ole days…

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[quote]SkyzykS wrote:
Molotov_Coktease wrote:
Did you know that in most domestic situations, when bystanders act to try and ‘help’ the woman, she ends up turning on and actually attacking the person helping? Couple that with drunkennes…recipe for disaster. Nope, If I heard drunks yelling in my parking lot, then outside my door…I would not open my door. I would call the cops if I had to, but nope, I wouldn’t put myself in harms way. Sorry, I’m still going to call dumb ass move.

Now, had they burst through or kicked in the door… this is a whole other matter.

Boy, did I find that out the hard way. Ended up getting my hair pulled out while the boyfriend kicked me in the face.

I figured that by the way he was slapping her around the bar and she was screaming for help that she actualy wanted it. Turns out that all of the regulars knew that they do this once a week.

Ah, the good ole days…
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Yes it is quite typical, unfortunately. However we don’t even know in this situation if the woman WAS getting assaulted. As it was mentioned…the man who was with her could’ve been trying to curtail her from being confrontational, which was probably what the drunk woman was aiming for, since they knew which neighbors had told them to quiet down in the parking lot.

Pretty predictable stuff if you ask me. Lame drunk chick tries to retaliate against being told to shut up (politely or not)…instead of getting stuffed into a cop car for her efforts, she gets a chance to flail on the naive chick who opens her door, who I guess doesn’t have much common sense or a peep hole.

Anyway, it sucks that it happened… I’m not insinuating his girlfriend isn’t the victim, but I am saying she didn’t have to be. Nobody has to bring Columbo in.

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[quote]Cuz drunk people have never been dangerous to those around them right? You are a fucking hippie. I bet your gay ass prances around in bell bottoms, a la Mike fucking Brady, waiting to play the victim. If someone barges in your house they better be prepared for what is coming. If you don’t belong in MY FUCKING HOUSE, you better not bust in acting like a fucking lunatic. But I digress, I cannot sway someone who obviously lives in dreamland.
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There is nothing I need to write that I haven’t written before. I will simply say that if you want to play a tough guy you shouldn’t have posted anything in the retarded pics thread.