[quote]vandalay15 wrote:
If you are strong enough to dip w/ multiple 45s attached, you will not be thinking of your nuts. You lift the damn weight. I dont see why there is so much talk of package safety when dipping w/ multiple plates. Get a long enough chain, and its no problem. What difference does it make if you have 4 45s or 1-2? None, you still have plates dangling between your legs.[/quote]
Yea, I got a 48 inch long chain, and another 24 inch and hooked them into a belt and “hangy down part” with some of those climber clips. I’ll see what I can do, but the “belt” is 10 pounds and I know I did at least 2 extra plates for 4-5 a while back. By th way, I don’t have a dip set-up so I lay 2 long 2 by 4s across my catchers in the power rack. I also tried adding bands over the shoulder, around the neck and then under the 2x4s and it made it an even better tricep workout. Just thought there might be some ideas that people could use.
also I get a long chain to hang the weights from and I put a small box under where the weights hang and then every time I lower myself I let the weights tap on the box, It is a way to make sure that you are doing the full range of motion on every rep and are not cheating.
back in the 50s marvin eder at bodyweight of 200lbs did dips with 300lbsx10 400lbsx7 and 434lbsx1. he could also military press 355lbs and bench 515lbs.
Weighted dips are great! I get up to four 45lbs plates with a set of 5. Diffinatly a shock factor there. I never really did weighted chins. Maybe I should start.
I used to do dips with 135lb added x 10 (bw 160) Loved doing them. Really hit the tris and chest. Unfortunately I don’t think my shoulder can handle them anymore.
Just for the sake of comparison, I can pullup with an added weight of 45-50 x 5.
[quote]vandalay15 wrote:
If you are strong enough to dip w/ multiple 45s attached, you will not be thinking of your nuts. You lift the damn weight. I dont see why there is so much talk of package safety when dipping w/ multiple plates. Get a long enough chain, and its no problem. What difference does it make if you have 4 45s or 1-2? None, you still have plates dangling between your legs.[/quote]
[quote]XCelticX wrote:
vandalay15 wrote:
If you are strong enough to dip w/ multiple 45s attached, you will not be thinking of your nuts. You lift the damn weight. I dont see why there is so much talk of package safety when dipping w/ multiple plates. Get a long enough chain, and its no problem. What difference does it make if you have 4 45s or 1-2? None, you still have plates dangling between your legs.
“Chin-ups may be easier to perform than pull-ups, but they work your upper body in different ways and should both be performed. Chin-ups are easier on your biceps tendons than pull-ups. Because of my biceps tendon problems, I do heavy weighted chin-ups, drop the weight, and burn-out on pull-ups.”
I completetly agree Mike, especially considering the case of a chronic injury such as yours. I didn’t mean to sound like I was saying one is better than the other, sorry about that; my only concern was whether anyone else had heard anything about strain on the wrists when performing chins. As for the exercise terms, I just wanted to make sure we were all on the same page
“Yea, I got a 48 inch long chain, and another 24 inch and hooked them into a belt and “hangy down part” with some of those climber clips. I’ll see what I can do, but the “belt” is 10 pounds and I know I did at least 2 extra plates for 4-5 a while back. By th way, I don’t have a dip set-up so I lay 2 long 2 by 4s across my catchers in the power rack. I also tried adding bands over the shoulder, around the neck and then under the 2x4s and it made it an even better tricep workout. Just thought there might be some ideas that people could use.”
I realize I already replied to this, but I kind of skipped over your post, mert. That is an awesome idea, of just using one chain as a “belt” and another for the weights. You could probably make a whole belt with a couple of carabiners thrown on, for $10-15.
BTW, for people having trouble with their home-crafted belts breaking, I saw some heavy-duty carabiners at Home Depot the other day that can hold up to 200 lbs. (or so the package says). Might want to give it a look…
“I heard dips are bad for your shoulder. A fellow T-man recommended subbing decline bench press for dips. Thoughts?”
I think it mostly depends on your ROM. I used to have a lot of pain in my shoulders and clavicular area when I was done doing a set, but I was going down as far as I could without my arms going out. After a while I couldn’t take it anymore and stopped doing them. Then I read to try them only going down until your lower chest is even with the bars (which also happens to be about the time your upper arms are parallel, as well). Been doing well since I started doing them this way. If you’re already in pain, however, don’t start doing them again until your healthy, or you’ll risk further injuring yourself.
So, in short, decrease your ROM to save your shoulders
[quote]dev wrote:
I heard dips are bad for your shoulder. A fellow T-man recommended subbing decline bench press for dips. Thoughts?[/quote]
Get power rings. Dip stands put stress on your shoulder because they have to be wide enough to accomodate the fattest person in the gym; if you dip through a full range of motion (hands to armpits) you end up with your shoulder at a very awkward angle.
If you use gymnastics rings, on the other hand, you can pull the rings right in to your armpits. Plus, ring dips are a lot harder than normal dips; Most people have to be able to do about 15 parallel dips before they can get one ring dip. By turning the hands out so that the palms face away from the body, you greatly increase the difficulty of the dip; I still can’t do this.
Also, rings enable you to work ring pull-ups, muscle-ups (still working on these), pull-ups to half-cross, cross pulls, iron crosses, etcetera ad infinitum.
BTW using 2 long 2x4s across the power rack gives a lot of adjustibility. You can angle them out, and even slope them one way or the other. Sloping down increases chest invlolvement, sloping up increases tricep involvemement.
