[quote]HK24719 wrote:
[quote]Spartiates wrote:
OP: I take it that’s not you in your avatar?[/quote]
Does this really need to be asked?
That’s a rhetorical question, by the way.[/quote]
I too would prefer the clowning around to be limited to the other 3 sections of the forum. (GAL, PWI & SAMA)
V
[quote]Spartiates wrote:
OP: I take it that’s not you in your avatar?[/quote]
no it is…hah i wish, its troy alves.
[quote]sam_sneed wrote:
[quote]BidDaddy52 wrote:
i dont really have a set diet.
morning- 6 egg whites and 1 yoke 1 1/2cups of oats
proetein shake little while before meal
lunch-turkey sandwich with fruit
ont he way to the gym i have my wiehgt gainer shake
after the gym i have my protein shake then whatever is for dinner
after that ill try to get at least two eals in before bed[/quote]
Why are you bothering with a weight gainer shake when your eating stuff like egg whites instead of whole eggs? What exactly is the 2 meals before bed?
Eat all 6 eggs in the morning and you won’t have to worry about the weight gainer. Add peanut butter or a banana to each protein shake in addition to this and you’ll be gaining without needing a weight gainer.[/quote]
Iv been hearing that eating the egg whites put cleaner weight on, but i guess i should just be worrying about adding weight in general. The 2 meals before bed are usually if theres left overs fro dinner, or maybe another turkey sandwich, tuna maybe chicken.
[quote]Vegita wrote:
2nd, 3rd, 4th, trillionth eating the whole egg. Nature made it, Nature knows more than you do, eat it all. Secondly, Steaks. Eat them. Ground beef if money is a problem. Red meat is more calorie dense than chicken and other white meats. I eat a lot of chicken myself, but I try to get a lot of red meat in my diet as well. Oils also pack a lot of calories with little volume. If you are truly “bulking” you can get away with a lot more fats in your diet to really ramp up the calories. Get a good mix of Sat, Mono and poly.
Eat bacon with your eggs, loads of olive oil and some vinegar on your salads. Mix your tuna with mayo and olive oil. A little extra oils and fats here and there along with increasing your red meat intake can add 1000 calories per day without adding too much discomfort from being overly full all the time. I buy pre-vacuum packed NY strip steaks at BJ’s for @$6 per lb. Thats pretty cheap for one of the best grilling cuts of meat on the planet. Don’t overcook it. Medium High heat on the grill, let it preheat, 5 minutes on one side 4 minutes after the flip, take it off and let it sit for 5 mins. Foolproof medium rare deliciousness. If you learn to cook your food so it tastes amazing, you will eat more naturally. Learn to cook and cook well.
V
[/quote]
Thanks for the help bro, where at in NY is BJ’s? Im like 30 mins from manhattan. Since money is a problem, do you season your ground beef with anything. Im not to picky about flavor but what could i be adding to it? Thanks for the help
Here’s the “weight gainer” that i use, i think its pretty good:
1 cup organic, unpasteurized whole milk from grass-fed cows
3 tablespoons natural peanut butter
2 tablespoons extra virgin olive oil
2 tablespoons milled flax seed
1 tablespoon ghee
1 tablespoon coconut oil
1 teaspoon evening primrose oil
+some additional casein protein, whey protein, bcaa’s
its about 1200 calories, can easily be consumed during class or work or anywhere else away from home, high in lots of good fatty acids such as ALA, GLA, oleic acid, lauric acid, CLA, and tastes like a peanut butter milkshake. so far its been working pretty well for me.
and like everyone has said so far, eat your egg yolks! as charles poliquin says, “egg whites are for dorks”
[quote]BidDaddy52 wrote:
Iv been hearing that eating the egg whites put cleaner weight on, but i guess i should just be worrying about adding weight in general. The 2 meals before bed are usually if theres left overs fro dinner, or maybe another turkey sandwich, tuna maybe chicken.
[/quote]
If you’re worried about “clean weight”, eat the egg yolks, and toss sandwiches. Make a salad using the ingredients you’d stick in the sandwich, then double it, instead.
Whole eggs beat bread every time.
[quote]Spartiates wrote:
[quote]BidDaddy52 wrote:
Iv been hearing that eating the egg whites put cleaner weight on, but i guess i should just be worrying about adding weight in general. The 2 meals before bed are usually if theres left overs fro dinner, or maybe another turkey sandwich, tuna maybe chicken.
[/quote]
If you’re worried about “clean weight”, eat the egg yolks, and toss sandwiches. Make a salad using the ingredients you’d stick in the sandwich, then double it, instead.
Whole eggs beat bread every time.[/quote]
thanks
[quote]BidDaddy52 wrote:
[quote]Vegita wrote:
2nd, 3rd, 4th, trillionth eating the whole egg. Nature made it, Nature knows more than you do, eat it all. Secondly, Steaks. Eat them. Ground beef if money is a problem. Red meat is more calorie dense than chicken and other white meats. I eat a lot of chicken myself, but I try to get a lot of red meat in my diet as well. Oils also pack a lot of calories with little volume. If you are truly “bulking” you can get away with a lot more fats in your diet to really ramp up the calories. Get a good mix of Sat, Mono and poly.
Eat bacon with your eggs, loads of olive oil and some vinegar on your salads. Mix your tuna with mayo and olive oil. A little extra oils and fats here and there along with increasing your red meat intake can add 1000 calories per day without adding too much discomfort from being overly full all the time. I buy pre-vacuum packed NY strip steaks at BJ’s for @$6 per lb. Thats pretty cheap for one of the best grilling cuts of meat on the planet. Don’t overcook it. Medium High heat on the grill, let it preheat, 5 minutes on one side 4 minutes after the flip, take it off and let it sit for 5 mins. Foolproof medium rare deliciousness. If you learn to cook your food so it tastes amazing, you will eat more naturally. Learn to cook and cook well.
V
[/quote]
Thanks for the help bro, where at in NY is BJ’s? Im like 30 mins from manhattan. Since money is a problem, do you season your ground beef with anything. Im not to picky about flavor but what could i be adding to it? Thanks for the help
[/quote]
Here is a google map of BJ’s, you need to do a membership, but I find it to be worth it. The ground beef and steak and chicken is cheaper than in the store provided you have enough freezer space. Also a 15 lb bag of bismati rice (which is awsome rice btw) is like $15 bucks. I live upstate so I’m not sure if the prices are the same statewide.
Ground beef is easy, buy some shell only taco kits. Cheese lettuce tomato and anything else you like on tacos. I would advise sour cream as well for the added calories. Have a taco night. Buy a can of taco seasoning mix. Instead of buying an all inclusive kit, you can save some money buy buying only the shells. nd the sauce and seasoning in bigger containers separate. My wife and I do 1 taco night per week. I make the biggest double stuffed tacos and slam 4 or 5 of them. I do soft shell, spread it with refried beans, wrap it around a hard shell, place it in the taco holder, throw in the beef, chopped onion, tomatoe black olives, then add lettuce, cheese and sour cream and finish with hot taco souce. The things are no joke tacos and I can barley finish 4 of them.
Obviously you can make some patties and do hamburgers with ground beef. You could learn how to make meatloaf. You could make meatballs to go with pasta and just make sure you eat like 4-5 big meatballs per plate of pasta. Then the leftover meatballs you can have a meatball hoagie the next day, just throw em on a roll or even a bun or bread and put a little more sauce and some more cheese on them and throw em in the toaster oven or microwave.
Here are some more of our staple dinners since I have them on my mind now. Easy stir fry. BJ’s has these huge bags of frozen veggies, there is one mix with broccoli, culliflower, carrots, zuchinni, yellow squash and maybe something else i’m forgetting. They also have pre vaccum sealed packs of perdue chicken breasts, either thin cut or regular. Get a cheapo rice cooker if you don’t have one. Remember that delicious rice I was talking about, throw a cup of dry rice in the cooker, two cups of water and turn it on. Heat your biggest skillet. Have to have a litle depth on the sides and a top is ideal.
Few tablespoons of oil in the pan, I use coconut oil, chop 1 packet of chicken breasts up, weather it be the whole ones or the thin cut just use the whole pack. You can do thin slices, I prefer chunks. Throw them in the pan (preheated with the oil in it), medium high heat. Cook the chicken, use a wooden spoon or some other spatula that won’t scratch your pan (asssuming nonstick). Once chicken is done add the frozen veggies and the stir fry sauce you also bought at BJ’s. 
cover and turn the heat back just a tad like to medium. Wait about 10 minutes and stir every 3-5. Your rice should be done, and your stirfry should be done. cover your plate with rice, then cover the rice with the stirfry, Add a little soy sauce if you like (I do).
If you are eating alone, this will net you 2-3 individual meals. So if it’s 2 people someone will have lunch for the next day.
Ok, I gotta take a break before I throw some more dinner tips out here.
V
[quote]BidDaddy52 wrote:
[quote]sam_sneed wrote:
[quote]BidDaddy52 wrote:
i dont really have a set diet.
morning- 6 egg whites and 1 yoke 1 1/2cups of oats
proetein shake little while before meal
lunch-turkey sandwich with fruit
ont he way to the gym i have my wiehgt gainer shake
after the gym i have my protein shake then whatever is for dinner
after that ill try to get at least two eals in before bed[/quote]
Why are you bothering with a weight gainer shake when your eating stuff like egg whites instead of whole eggs? What exactly is the 2 meals before bed?
Eat all 6 eggs in the morning and you won’t have to worry about the weight gainer. Add peanut butter or a banana to each protein shake in addition to this and you’ll be gaining without needing a weight gainer.[/quote]
Iv been hearing that eating the egg whites put cleaner weight on, but i guess i should just be worrying about adding weight in general. The 2 meals before bed are usually if theres left overs fro dinner, or maybe another turkey sandwich, tuna maybe chicken.
[/quote]
There’s nothing dirty about whole eggs. The reason you see people eating egg whites when dieting, is because the yolks are dense in calories. Perfect for bulking.
I concur on the red meats too. I get 4 lbs of ribeye from Costco every Sunday. It that’s too pricey you can cook ground beef the following ways:
Dice up veggies, fry them in a pan. Add ground beef and seasoning. Brown it and add some tomato sauce. You’ll have a tasty meat sauce you can serve with a starch.
Cook the ground beef with manwich and make a huge sandwich consisting of mostly meat.
Cook ground beef in a pan. Strain the grease. Put it in a bowl and mix salsa and sour cream with it. It tastes like nachos (credit to waylander)
Cook beef in a pan with taco seasoning per instructions. Pour the beef over brown rice.
Buy at last a 1/2 lb of nice red roast beef from the deli. Heat it in the pan with brown gravy. Serve over side of rice or some kind of potato.
Don’t be afraid to eat brown rice or potatoes either. The potatoes are especially easy to cook. Get a bag of red potatoes, scrub them and boil them in a pot with chicken stock. You make make the chicken stock with water mixed with a chicken bouillon cube. You can microwave them too but it’s less tasty.
Buy yams, wash them, poke them with a fork, then wrap them in saran wrap. Microwave for 5 minutes. Cut it down the middle and add some butter and cinnamon. Tastes good.
So there’s some easy affordable red meat recipes for ya. Toss the weight gainer.
[quote]McG78 wrote:
One, eat the whole damn egg.
Two, have you tried “Weight Gainer 4000”? I knew a guy that got totally ripped in two days using this. He was tired of being a 90lbs weaklin and needed to get in shape to meet Kathie Lee Gifford.[/quote]
No South Park fans?
[quote]McG78 wrote:
[quote]McG78 wrote:
One, eat the whole damn egg.
Two, have you tried “Weight Gainer 4000”? I knew a guy that got totally ripped in two days using this. He was tired of being a 90lbs weaklin and needed to get in shape to meet Kathie Lee Gifford.[/quote]
No South Park fans?[/quote]
[quote]BidDaddy52 wrote:
[quote]Spartiates wrote:
[quote]BidDaddy52 wrote:
Iv been hearing that eating the egg whites put cleaner weight on, but i guess i should just be worrying about adding weight in general. The 2 meals before bed are usually if theres left overs fro dinner, or maybe another turkey sandwich, tuna maybe chicken.
[/quote]
If you’re worried about “clean weight”, eat the egg yolks, and toss sandwiches. Make a salad using the ingredients you’d stick in the sandwich, then double it, instead.
Whole eggs beat bread every time.[/quote]
thanks
[/quote]
As other people have pointed out, if you’re worried about “clean weight”, then eggs are good, store bought weight gainers are bad.
[quote]oinky222 wrote:
Here’s the “weight gainer” that i use, i think its pretty good:
1 cup organic, unpasteurized whole milk from grass-fed cows
3 tablespoons natural peanut butter
2 tablespoons extra virgin olive oil
2 tablespoons milled flax seed
1 tablespoon ghee
1 tablespoon coconut oil
1 teaspoon evening primrose oil
+some additional casein protein, whey protein, bcaa’s
its about 1200 calories, can easily be consumed during class or work or anywhere else away from home, high in lots of good fatty acids such as ALA, GLA, oleic acid, lauric acid, CLA, and tastes like a peanut butter milkshake. so far its been working pretty well for me.
and like everyone has said so far, eat your egg yolks! as charles poliquin says, “egg whites are for dorks”[/quote]
Gonna have to try this. Have you had success making multiple at once and just leaving them in the fridge?
[quote]1 cup organic, unpasteurized whole milk from grass-fed cows
3 tablespoons natural peanut butter
2 tablespoons extra virgin olive oil
2 tablespoons milled flax seed
1 tablespoon ghee
1 tablespoon coconut oil
1 teaspoon evening primrose oil
+some additional casein protein, whey protein, bcaa’s
[/quote]
And then, for the budget challenged, just strip out most of the adjectives for the blue collar version:
milk
peanut butter
veggie oil
(skip flax?)
butter
more oil
whey protein
[quote]sam_sneed wrote:
[quote]BidDaddy52 wrote:
[quote]sam_sneed wrote:
[quote]BidDaddy52 wrote:
i dont really have a set diet.
morning- 6 egg whites and 1 yoke 1 1/2cups of oats
proetein shake little while before meal
lunch-turkey sandwich with fruit
ont he way to the gym i have my wiehgt gainer shake
after the gym i have my protein shake then whatever is for dinner
after that ill try to get at least two eals in before bed[/quote]
Why are you bothering with a weight gainer shake when your eating stuff like egg whites instead of whole eggs? What exactly is the 2 meals before bed?
Eat all 6 eggs in the morning and you won’t have to worry about the weight gainer. Add peanut butter or a banana to each protein shake in addition to this and you’ll be gaining without needing a weight gainer.[/quote]
Iv been hearing that eating the egg whites put cleaner weight on, but i guess i should just be worrying about adding weight in general. The 2 meals before bed are usually if theres left overs fro dinner, or maybe another turkey sandwich, tuna maybe chicken.
[/quote]
There’s nothing dirty about whole eggs. The reason you see people eating egg whites when dieting, is because the yolks are dense in calories. Perfect for bulking.
I concur on the red meats too. I get 4 lbs of ribeye from Costco every Sunday. It that’s too pricey you can cook ground beef the following ways:
Dice up veggies, fry them in a pan. Add ground beef and seasoning. Brown it and add some tomato sauce. You’ll have a tasty meat sauce you can serve with a starch.
Cook the ground beef with manwich and make a huge sandwich consisting of mostly meat.
Cook ground beef in a pan. Strain the grease. Put it in a bowl and mix salsa and sour cream with it. It tastes like nachos (credit to waylander)
Cook beef in a pan with taco seasoning per instructions. Pour the beef over brown rice.
Buy at last a 1/2 lb of nice red roast beef from the deli. Heat it in the pan with brown gravy. Serve over side of rice or some kind of potato.
Don’t be afraid to eat brown rice or potatoes either. The potatoes are especially easy to cook. Get a bag of red potatoes, scrub them and boil them in a pot with chicken stock. You make make the chicken stock with water mixed with a chicken bouillon cube. You can microwave them too but it’s less tasty.
Buy yams, wash them, poke them with a fork, then wrap them in saran wrap. Microwave for 5 minutes. Cut it down the middle and add some butter and cinnamon. Tastes good.
So there’s some easy affordable red meat recipes for ya. Toss the weight gainer.[/quote]
Thanks!!
[quote]Vegita wrote:
[quote]BidDaddy52 wrote:
[quote]Vegita wrote:
2nd, 3rd, 4th, trillionth eating the whole egg. Nature made it, Nature knows more than you do, eat it all. Secondly, Steaks. Eat them. Ground beef if money is a problem. Red meat is more calorie dense than chicken and other white meats. I eat a lot of chicken myself, but I try to get a lot of red meat in my diet as well. Oils also pack a lot of calories with little volume. If you are truly “bulking” you can get away with a lot more fats in your diet to really ramp up the calories. Get a good mix of Sat, Mono and poly.
Eat bacon with your eggs, loads of olive oil and some vinegar on your salads. Mix your tuna with mayo and olive oil. A little extra oils and fats here and there along with increasing your red meat intake can add 1000 calories per day without adding too much discomfort from being overly full all the time. I buy pre-vacuum packed NY strip steaks at BJ’s for @$6 per lb. Thats pretty cheap for one of the best grilling cuts of meat on the planet. Don’t overcook it. Medium High heat on the grill, let it preheat, 5 minutes on one side 4 minutes after the flip, take it off and let it sit for 5 mins. Foolproof medium rare deliciousness. If you learn to cook your food so it tastes amazing, you will eat more naturally. Learn to cook and cook well.
V
[/quote]
Thanks for the help bro, where at in NY is BJ’s? Im like 30 mins from manhattan. Since money is a problem, do you season your ground beef with anything. Im not to picky about flavor but what could i be adding to it? Thanks for the help
[/quote]
Here is a google map of BJ’s, you need to do a membership, but I find it to be worth it. The ground beef and steak and chicken is cheaper than in the store provided you have enough freezer space. Also a 15 lb bag of bismati rice (which is awsome rice btw) is like $15 bucks. I live upstate so I’m not sure if the prices are the same statewide.
Ground beef is easy, buy some shell only taco kits. Cheese lettuce tomato and anything else you like on tacos. I would advise sour cream as well for the added calories. Have a taco night. Buy a can of taco seasoning mix. Instead of buying an all inclusive kit, you can save some money buy buying only the shells. nd the sauce and seasoning in bigger containers separate. My wife and I do 1 taco night per week. I make the biggest double stuffed tacos and slam 4 or 5 of them. I do soft shell, spread it with refried beans, wrap it around a hard shell, place it in the taco holder, throw in the beef, chopped onion, tomatoe black olives, then add lettuce, cheese and sour cream and finish with hot taco souce. The things are no joke tacos and I can barley finish 4 of them.
Obviously you can make some patties and do hamburgers with ground beef. You could learn how to make meatloaf. You could make meatballs to go with pasta and just make sure you eat like 4-5 big meatballs per plate of pasta. Then the leftover meatballs you can have a meatball hoagie the next day, just throw em on a roll or even a bun or bread and put a little more sauce and some more cheese on them and throw em in the toaster oven or microwave.
Here are some more of our staple dinners since I have them on my mind now. Easy stir fry. BJ’s has these huge bags of frozen veggies, there is one mix with broccoli, culliflower, carrots, zuchinni, yellow squash and maybe something else i’m forgetting. They also have pre vaccum sealed packs of perdue chicken breasts, either thin cut or regular. Get a cheapo rice cooker if you don’t have one. Remember that delicious rice I was talking about, throw a cup of dry rice in the cooker, two cups of water and turn it on. Heat your biggest skillet. Have to have a litle depth on the sides and a top is ideal.
Few tablespoons of oil in the pan, I use coconut oil, chop 1 packet of chicken breasts up, weather it be the whole ones or the thin cut just use the whole pack. You can do thin slices, I prefer chunks. Throw them in the pan (preheated with the oil in it), medium high heat. Cook the chicken, use a wooden spoon or some other spatula that won’t scratch your pan (asssuming nonstick). Once chicken is done add the frozen veggies and the stir fry sauce you also bought at BJ’s. cover and turn the heat back just a tad like to medium. Wait about 10 minutes and stir every 3-5. Your rice should be done, and your stirfry should be done. cover your plate with rice, then cover the rice with the stirfry, Add a little soy sauce if you like (I do).
If you are eating alone, this will net you 2-3 individual meals. So if it’s 2 people someone will have lunch for the next day.
Ok, I gotta take a break before I throw some more dinner tips out here.
V [/quote]
thanks for the help!!!
Let me introduce you to the burrito diet. Go to Costco (BJ’s as you east coasters have). Buy a butt ton of ground beef and a butt ton of beans (I like pinto). Brown the beef, strain the grease. Chop and cook some red and green peppers. Maybe an onion. Throw the beef and pepps in the pan and mix in a few packets of fajita seasoning (kicks taco’s ass). Take a bunch of whole wheat tortillas (or normal ones, whatever), some cheese and make a bunch of burritos. Eat at least three of these a day, on top of what you wold usually eat.
[quote]donovanbrambila wrote:
Let me introduce you to the burrito diet. Go to Costco (BJ’s as you east coasters have). Buy a butt ton of ground beef and a butt ton of beans (I like pinto). Brown the beef, strain the grease. Chop and cook some red and green peppers. Maybe an onion. Throw the beef and pepps in the pan and mix in a few packets of fajita seasoning (kicks taco’s ass). Take a bunch of whole wheat tortillas (or normal ones, whatever), some cheese and make a bunch of burritos. Eat at least three of these a day, on top of what you wold usually eat.[/quote]
You forgot to deep fry the burrito before serving it.
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
[quote]donovanbrambila wrote:
Let me introduce you to the burrito diet. Go to Costco (BJ’s as you east coasters have). Buy a butt ton of ground beef and a butt ton of beans (I like pinto). Brown the beef, strain the grease. Chop and cook some red and green peppers. Maybe an onion. Throw the beef and pepps in the pan and mix in a few packets of fajita seasoning (kicks taco’s ass). Take a bunch of whole wheat tortillas (or normal ones, whatever), some cheese and make a bunch of burritos. Eat at least three of these a day, on top of what you wold usually eat.[/quote]
You forgot to deep fry the burrito before serving it. [/quote]
I prefer to roll it in cookies n cream ice cream, put a stick through it, then deep fry it. I call it a fried burritosicle.
alot of people seem not to like the gainers but with a good diet iv really seen gains with ON Pro Complex Gainer… one serving p.w.o works great for me
