Wow, I logged in here this morning expecting to read all kinds of posts on this card. I only saw the last two fights, but the action was so great I didn’t feel like I missed anything! To see Faber switch up his style a bit and still win the fight was very impressive.
How were the rest of the fights?
We need a link!
[quote]Schwarzfahrer wrote:
We need a link![/quote]
Or you could have watched it on VS. (or TSN in Canada) last night!
EDIT: Just noticed your in Germany.
I also only caught the last two fights, they were both great fights. I didn’t understand the scoring though, I understood the 50-45, but I didn’t see any 10-8 rounds.
I was pissed off the Faber/Pulver fight went the distance and didn’t start until 11:00pm…I never got to start my training session until 11:30pm. In order to even it out I had to come into work an hour late today! 
Both the title fights were fantastic. Maeda/Torres was insane, any fight that has a round featuring both an axe kick and an omoplata is money. It pains me that Faber/Kid will probably never happen.
50-44 was a screwy score, 50-45 I could see. Maybe Jens stole round 2, but he also got dropped in that round so 49-46 is as generous as you could reasonably be IMO. Doesn’t matter though, probably just padding the title holders score.
[quote]Donut62 wrote:
Both the title fights were fantastic. Maeda/Torres was insane, any fight that has a round featuring both an axe kick and an omoplata is money. It pains me that Faber/Kid will probably never happen.
50-44 was a screwy score, 50-45 I could see. Maybe Jens stole round 2, but he also got dropped in that round so 49-46 is as generous as you could reasonably be IMO. Doesn’t matter though, probably just padding the title holders score.[/quote]
Agreed.
Even though Faber won every round (like Donut said, I could see Pulver getting Round 2), most of the rounds were pretty close and Pulver did a great job staying with Faber.
It would’ve been nice to see Pulver unleash his hands, but he was probably cautious about defending the takedowns.
Oh my God, Kid-Faber would be out of this world.
Heck, in a couple of years if Torres can gain a bit of weight, Torres-Faber would be an awfully exciting fight.
This card blew away Elite XC’s effort. Too bad it didn’t get the same exposure.
Yea scoring was good. The deal with a 10 point must system is each individual round could be very close, the fight could be close, but the final score looks like a blowout. Just the deal.
Torres is an excellent fighter. I have a lot of respect for his chin and conditioning. He also is very slick and skilled in the submission game. Much respect to him, he is a joy to watch.
Faber v. Pulver was and example of how speed wins. Pulver’s only shot was the get Faber close to the fence (did), close the distance slowly to avoid a quick shot (did), and get his punches off first (did not). Faber consistently beat him to the punch, showed nice accuracy with that right hand and left hook, and mixed in some really nice body kicks. Good performance by him. He’s a well rounded fighter.
[quote]danew wrote:
Yea scoring was good. The deal with a 10 point must system is each individual round could be very close, the fight could be close, but the final score looks like a blowout. Just the deal.[/quote]
I understand how the 10 point must system works, the point is that 50-44 means someone scored a round 10-8 which given the closeness of the fight means someone has no idea what they are looking at.
pulver looked slow and old not one of his better fights.
Great fight but I have a strange feeling about the whole thing.
Faber committed a host of fouls and all but one was even mentioned by the ref. None of them were very serious other than the dozen hammerfists to the back of Jens’ head after Faber rocked him, but I thought no warning by the ref was pretty odd.
Then I was struck by Jens’ behavior in the fight. Surely he is one of the toughest, most hardnosed guys ever in the game. To see him watching the clock and backing off when Faber was heading toward the standing fetal position, I don’t know. Maybe he lost his killer instinct, maybe he was actually intimidated by Faber’s talent and speed. Still, a part of me wants to say that there was something fishy about this fight, Jens’ behavior in particular.
Throw in the 10-8 round for good measure.
I know, tell me I’m crazy. Maybe that Kimbo fight has tainted me forever.
[quote]JD430 wrote:
Great fight but I have a strange feeling about the whole thing.
Faber committed a host of fouls and all but one was even mentioned by the ref. None of them were very serious other than the dozen hammerfists to the back of Jens’ head after Faber rocked him, but I thought no warning by the ref was pretty odd.
Then I was struck by Jens’ behavior in the fight. Surely he is one of the toughest, most hardnosed guys ever in the game. To see him watching the clock and backing off when Faber was heading toward the standing fetal position, I don’t know. Maybe he lost his killer instinct, maybe he was actually intimidated by Faber’s talent and speed. Still, a part of me wants to say that there was something fishy about this fight, Jens’ behavior in particular.
Throw in the 10-8 round for good measure.
I know, tell me I’m crazy. Maybe that Kimbo fight has tainted me forever.
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IT looked like Faber was faking a couple of times when he backed off hurt. I remember one time Faber backed off and Pulver came in a bit only to get an elbow. While I think Faber might have taken some shots, I don’t really think he was as hurt as many think.
The difference in the fight was speed.
[quote]JD430 wrote:
Great fight but I have a strange feeling about the whole thing.
Faber committed a host of fouls and all but one was even mentioned by the ref. None of them were very serious other than the dozen hammerfists to the back of Jens’ head after Faber rocked him, but I thought no warning by the ref was pretty odd.
Then I was struck by Jens’ behavior in the fight. Surely he is one of the toughest, most hardnosed guys ever in the game. To see him watching the clock and backing off when Faber was heading toward the standing fetal position, I don’t know. Maybe he lost his killer instinct, maybe he was actually intimidated by Faber’s talent and speed. Still, a part of me wants to say that there was something fishy about this fight, Jens’ behavior in particular.
Throw in the 10-8 round for good measure.
I know, tell me I’m crazy. Maybe that Kimbo fight has tainted me forever.
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I think Faber’s non-stop attack left Jens a little gassed. Jens definitely came into the fight in great shape, but Faber’s motor never stops and it’s hard to keep up with him for 5 rounds.
You could see it a couple of times on the ground, when Pulver had Faber in his guard. He relaxed his body for a second and Faber was all over him and Pulver wasn’t expecting it.
It was a great card…saved the weekend for me.
WEC card was great two of the better fights ive ever seen.
I thought about the same thing, It is too bad that this wasn’t the card they showed on CBS or any other mainstream network. All fights were great and a full display of what MMA is, without overrated, unexperienced fighters, WWE antics or a dumbass audience booing every five seconds.
[quote]Djwlfpack wrote:
This card blew away Elite XC’s effort. Too bad it didn’t get the same exposure.[/quote]
Yeah, you could see Jen’s behavior changing after the 3rd round. I think he lost the will to win it and he was just riding it, almost treating it like a sparring session, smiling and giving props to Faber after every punch he would eat. Then he kept on looking at himself on the big screen, that caused him a couple of big elbows on the side of his right eye when he was on his back, also looking at the clock constantly…
He had a legitimate chance to win it, every time he pushed forward, he would get Faber in some kind of trouble, but that willingness to engage faded and spent the last rounds on defense mode.
[quote]JD430 wrote:
Great fight but I have a strange feeling about the whole thing.
Faber committed a host of fouls and all but one was even mentioned by the ref. None of them were very serious other than the dozen hammerfists to the back of Jens’ head after Faber rocked him, but I thought no warning by the ref was pretty odd.
Then I was struck by Jens’ behavior in the fight. Surely he is one of the toughest, most hardnosed guys ever in the game. To see him watching the clock and backing off when Faber was heading toward the standing fetal position, I don’t know. Maybe he lost his killer instinct, maybe he was actually intimidated by Faber’s talent and speed. Still, a part of me wants to say that there was something fishy about this fight, Jens’ behavior in particular.
Throw in the 10-8 round for good measure.
I know, tell me I’m crazy. Maybe that Kimbo fight has tainted me forever.
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