Watch This Squat

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[quote]ElevenMag wrote:
I never said I didn’t think his feat of strength it a great one, you guys are putting words in my mouth. Most will never accomplish that in their life even if they tried but did I really need to post that because everyone here already knows that fact? You asked me what I thought… BTW, I bet that guy would look awful in posing trunks. He may be big but his physique is not impressive at all to me

What I see when I look at powerlifters like this is large jug butts and massive guts… Have you guys ever actually been to a powerlifting meet? I actually competed in one and it turned me off completely. Every guy there talked about all these injuries they constantly suffer from. strained this… torn ligament that… fucked up my knee/back… Everyone was so bandaged up you could smell the liniment anywhere in the building. It may be impressive to lift all that weight but the human body wasn’t made to lift these tremendous poundages and pretty much anyone that continues this style for long enough time ends up having all sorts of scar tissue, joint and ligament damage. Its not if, its when… All i could think once I left is I don’t want to be like that. That’s what turned me off of powerlifting and onto natural bodybuilding (the IFBB olympia stuff isn’t much better than the gorillas seen here).[/quote]

I usually don’t like to argue on the internet but this whole little pussy-fest you just went off on really struck a nerve. Not everyone is hurt all the time. I am getting at a pretty high level and have sustained very few injuries as a direct result of training heavy. Drawing some mass generalization on powerlifters being out of shape, hurt, and not attractive enough for you to make out with is pretty offensive. That would be like me saying ‘Natural bodybuilders don’t just have sex with their training partners in the locker room between rest-pause sets but they also enjoy being small and taken advantage of by larger men because they don’t have the balls to do steroids.’

For someone like me, in better shape, stronger, and less injured now at 285lbs then I ever was at 250-270 playing high level college football, the ignorance of your statement baffles me. Then again maybe I am exception. My training is much smarter than most.

Either way, the last thing I want to see/hear is the opinion of a weak-minded quitter.

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[quote]StormTheBeach wrote:
…attractive enough for you to make out with…[/quote]

Burst blood vessels from safety bar box squats really do accentuate your eyes.

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[quote]StormTheBeach wrote:
“Big Rob’s squat was good but, there is no way I would have sex with him. I only like watching guys I want to have sex with lifting weights.”

[/quote]

I just died from the LULZ.

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[quote]Spidey22 wrote:

[quote]ElevenMag wrote:
I never said I didn’t think his feat of strength it a great one, you guys are putting words in my mouth. Most will never accomplish that in their life even if they tried but did I really need to post that because everyone here already knows that fact? You asked me what I thought… BTW, I bet that guy would look awful in posing trunks. He may be big but his physique is not impressive at all to me

What I see when I look at powerlifters like this is large jug butts and massive guts… Have you guys ever actually been to a powerlifting meet? I actually competed in one and it turned me off completely. Every guy there talked about all these injuries they constantly suffer from. strained this… torn ligament that… fucked up my knee/back… Everyone was so bandaged up you could smell the liniment anywhere in the building. It may be impressive to lift all that weight but the human body wasn’t made to lift these tremendous poundages and pretty much anyone that continues this style for long enough time ends up having all sorts of scar tissue, joint and ligament damage. Its not if, its when… All i could think once I left is I don’t want to be like that. That’s what turned me off of powerlifting and onto natural bodybuilding (the IFBB olympia stuff isn’t much better than the gorillas seen here).[/quote]

There is literally two stellar logs over in the Training Log section of this site, that follow 2 top level PL’ers whose physiques are lean and muscular (Ben Rice and Kameron Ross). I understand you had a bad experience, but I feel maybe you should dig a little deeper before writing it off all together. Just food for thought…[/quote]

I’ll check them out thanks. I did more then just go to that lifting meet though. I actually trained with an Olympic weightlifter at the local YMCA. Of course he too just continued to tough it out despite joint pain. Though this isn’t the same exact thing as powerlifting I drew the same conclusions that these tremendous weights only lead to joint tendon and ligament damage.

[quote]StormTheBeach wrote:

[quote]ElevenMag wrote:
I never said I didn’t think his feat of strength it a great one, you guys are putting words in my mouth. Most will never accomplish that in their life even if they tried but did I really need to post that because everyone here already knows that fact? You asked me what I thought… BTW, I bet that guy would look awful in posing trunks. He may be big but his physique is not impressive at all to me

What I see when I look at powerlifters like this is large jug butts and massive guts… Have you guys ever actually been to a powerlifting meet? I actually competed in one and it turned me off completely. Every guy there talked about all these injuries they constantly suffer from. strained this… torn ligament that… fucked up my knee/back… Everyone was so bandaged up you could smell the liniment anywhere in the building. It may be impressive to lift all that weight but the human body wasn’t made to lift these tremendous poundages and pretty much anyone that continues this style for long enough time ends up having all sorts of scar tissue, joint and ligament damage. Its not if, its when… All i could think once I left is I don’t want to be like that. That’s what turned me off of powerlifting and onto natural bodybuilding (the IFBB olympia stuff isn’t much better than the gorillas seen here).[/quote]

I usually don’t like to argue on the internet but this whole little pussy-fest you just went off on really struck a nerve. Not everyone is hurt all the time. I am getting at a pretty high level and have sustained very few injuries as a direct result of training heavy. Drawing some mass generalization on powerlifters being out of shape, hurt, and not attractive enough for you to make out with is pretty offensive. That would be like me saying ‘Natural bodybuilders don’t just have sex with their training partners in the locker room between rest-pause sets but they also enjoy being small and taken advantage of by larger men because they don’t have the balls to do steroids.’

For someone like me, in better shape, stronger, and less injured now at 285lbs then I ever was at 250-270 playing high level college football, the ignorance of your statement baffles me. Then again maybe I am exception. My training is much smarter than most.

Either way, the last thing I want to see/hear is the opinion of a weak-minded quitter.[/quote]

What injuries have you received since you began powerlifting? What ones are left over from football since you inevitably have something you messed up in upper level college ball?

Less injured then when you played college ball you say? What an accomplishment. Your less injured than in a sport where they forced you to where two extremely expensive knee braces just so your ligaments wouldn’t take all the pressure on the hits over 4 years and that one unlucky time tear. I don’t know how many major injuries college football actually causes (and i played as well, never in college as you though from 5th grade through high school in contact leagues) but I’m sure its way more then powerlifting.

So i’m a weak minded quitter just because I went through with a powerlifting competition and I didn’t end up having the same passion for it as you do?

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[quote]ElevenMag wrote:

So i’m a weak minded quitter just because I went through with a powerlifting competition and I didn’t end up having the same passion for it as you do?[/quote]

No because you quit on it because you thought it looked hard and required sacrifice, not because you didn’t like it. And because you look down on and criticize people for not sharing your goals while at the same time spouting sweeping misinformation to show how other people are dumb for not agreeing.

But that’s just my take.

You are aware that getting to extremely low bodyfat levels for a BBing comp isn’t healthy either right? Do you post a comment about “who would do that to their health” every time there is a pic of a shredded BBer?

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[quote]ElevenMag wrote:

[quote]Spidey22 wrote:

[quote]ElevenMag wrote:
I never said I didn’t think his feat of strength it a great one, you guys are putting words in my mouth. Most will never accomplish that in their life even if they tried but did I really need to post that because everyone here already knows that fact? You asked me what I thought… BTW, I bet that guy would look awful in posing trunks. He may be big but his physique is not impressive at all to me

What I see when I look at powerlifters like this is large jug butts and massive guts… Have you guys ever actually been to a powerlifting meet? I actually competed in one and it turned me off completely. Every guy there talked about all these injuries they constantly suffer from. strained this… torn ligament that… fucked up my knee/back… Everyone was so bandaged up you could smell the liniment anywhere in the building. It may be impressive to lift all that weight but the human body wasn’t made to lift these tremendous poundages and pretty much anyone that continues this style for long enough time ends up having all sorts of scar tissue, joint and ligament damage. Its not if, its when… All i could think once I left is I don’t want to be like that. That’s what turned me off of powerlifting and onto natural bodybuilding (the IFBB olympia stuff isn’t much better than the gorillas seen here).[/quote]

There is literally two stellar logs over in the Training Log section of this site, that follow 2 top level PL’ers whose physiques are lean and muscular (Ben Rice and Kameron Ross). I understand you had a bad experience, but I feel maybe you should dig a little deeper before writing it off all together. Just food for thought…[/quote]

I’ll check them out thanks. I did more then just go to that lifting meet though. I actually trained with an Olympic weightlifter at the local YMCA. Of course he too just continued to tough it out despite joint pain. Though this isn’t the same exact thing as powerlifting I drew the same conclusions that these tremendous weights only lead to joint tendon and ligament damage.

[quote]StormTheBeach wrote:

[quote]ElevenMag wrote:
I never said I didn’t think his feat of strength it a great one, you guys are putting words in my mouth. Most will never accomplish that in their life even if they tried but did I really need to post that because everyone here already knows that fact? You asked me what I thought… BTW, I bet that guy would look awful in posing trunks. He may be big but his physique is not impressive at all to me

What I see when I look at powerlifters like this is large jug butts and massive guts… Have you guys ever actually been to a powerlifting meet? I actually competed in one and it turned me off completely. Every guy there talked about all these injuries they constantly suffer from. strained this… torn ligament that… fucked up my knee/back… Everyone was so bandaged up you could smell the liniment anywhere in the building. It may be impressive to lift all that weight but the human body wasn’t made to lift these tremendous poundages and pretty much anyone that continues this style for long enough time ends up having all sorts of scar tissue, joint and ligament damage. Its not if, its when… All i could think once I left is I don’t want to be like that. That’s what turned me off of powerlifting and onto natural bodybuilding (the IFBB olympia stuff isn’t much better than the gorillas seen here).[/quote]

I usually don’t like to argue on the internet but this whole little pussy-fest you just went off on really struck a nerve. Not everyone is hurt all the time. I am getting at a pretty high level and have sustained very few injuries as a direct result of training heavy. Drawing some mass generalization on powerlifters being out of shape, hurt, and not attractive enough for you to make out with is pretty offensive. That would be like me saying ‘Natural bodybuilders don’t just have sex with their training partners in the locker room between rest-pause sets but they also enjoy being small and taken advantage of by larger men because they don’t have the balls to do steroids.’

For someone like me, in better shape, stronger, and less injured now at 285lbs then I ever was at 250-270 playing high level college football, the ignorance of your statement baffles me. Then again maybe I am exception. My training is much smarter than most.

Either way, the last thing I want to see/hear is the opinion of a weak-minded quitter.[/quote]

What injuries have you received since you began powerlifting? What ones are left over from football since you inevitably have something you messed up in upper level college ball?

Less injured then when you played college ball you say? What an accomplishment. Your less injured than in a sport where they forced you to where two extremely expensive knee braces just so your ligaments wouldn’t take all the pressure on the hits over 4 years and that one unlucky time tear. I don’t know how many major injuries college football actually causes (and i played as well, never in college as you though from 5th grade through high school in contact leagues) but I’m sure its way more then powerlifting.

So i’m a weak minded quitter just because I went through with a powerlifting competition and I didn’t end up having the same passion for it as you do?[/quote]

Your grammer is so bad, I am just going to have to assume that you are agreeing with me. I accept your apology.

No, you’re not a weak minded quitter because you did shitty in a powerlifting competition. You are a weak minded quitter because you went to a powerlifting competition, checked out every guy there, and decided none of them were hot enough for your liking.

And where the fuck are these knee braces you are talking about? I sure as shit didn’t get ‘forced’ to wear any.

Just please God don’t put up another post about how you think Rob Wilkerson’s butt doesn’t look good to you. What the fuck, man?

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[quote]ElevenMag wrote:
I look at his gut and think why the hell would anyone want to look like that?[/quote]

He’s an ATHLETE not an underwear model.

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[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]ElevenMag wrote:

So i’m a weak minded quitter just because I went through with a powerlifting competition and I didn’t end up having the same passion for it as you do?[/quote]

No because you quit on it because you thought it looked hard and required sacrifice, not because you didn’t like it. And because you look down on and criticize people for not sharing your goals while at the same time spouting sweeping misinformation to show how other people are dumb for not agreeing.

But that’s just my take

You are aware that getting to extremely low bodyfat levels for a BBing comp isn’t healthy either right? Do you post a comment about “who would do that to their health” every time there is a pic of a shredded BBer?[/quote]

Once again you have some crazy interpretation of what I’ve said. I quit on it because i saw the majority of people there and thought “I don’t want to look like that or have all the problems they described”. I must be a weak minded quitter!

All I was stating after this moved from the bodybuilding forum to the powerlifting forum followed by a landblast of powerlifters defending there sport (from a comment on a top squatters PHYSIQUE IN THE BODYBUILDING forum) was that you can either choose to be a powerlifting or you can choose be a bodybuilder. Impress people with large weights lifted or how great you look. I don’t want to be someone who floats between two different goal really never achieving one or the other to its maximum potential so I choose bodybuilding. I never once talked about how dumb powerlifting was, just how your bound to be injured from the tremendous weight and carrying so much bodyfat(the more you weigh the more you can lift) how turned off I was from that aspect.

Yes, I’m aware bodybuilding to get to low levels of bodyfat to the point where your skin is like saran warp can be extremely unhealthy if diuretics are used or it is held for a long time. But check out Robby Robinson for an example of someone who has been ~6% bodyfat for most of his adult life. That what I want to look like when I’m 60. He didn’t get that way by powerlifting for 45 years. He got that way by working out like a bodybuilding and following strict nutrition. (If you haven’t read his latest book please don’t bring up how he used steroids in his prime)

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[quote]StormTheBeach wrote:

Your grammer is so bad, I am just going to have to assume that you are agreeing with me. I accept your apology.

No, you’re not a weak minded quitter because you did shitty in a powerlifting competition. You are a weak minded quitter because you went to a powerlifting competition, checked out every guy there, and decided none of them were hot enough for your liking.

And where the fuck are these knee braces you are talking about? I sure as shit didn’t get ‘forced’ to wear any.

Just please God don’t put up another post about how you think Rob Wilkerson’s butt doesn’t look good to you. What the fuck, man?[/quote]

Maybe your older then I thought. Every D1 college lineman is now forced to wear two knee braces. You never answered my questions so please God don’t post again until you do because no one really cares about your insults

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It should be noted that this Vytautaus guy squats like a bodybuilder. His knees come forward and he remains fairly upright with a higher bar and closer stance. Most powerlifters that squat this much do the wide stance/shortened range of motion. He does it the harder way.

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Now that the OP is in the correct forum can we please take this argument private?

That’s an amazing squat. Everytime I see one of these vids I wonder what the hell I’m doing so wrong…woe is me.

james

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[quote]MytchBucanan wrote:
It should be noted that this Vytautaus guy squats like a bodybuilder. His knees come forward and he remains fairly upright with a higher bar and closer stance. Most powerlifters that squat this much do the wide stance/shortened range of motion. He does it the harder way.[/quote]

Looks like he squats more like an Olympic lifter to me. I doubt the ideal bodybuilding squat ignores the eccentric like that.

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I didn’t know 1000 RAW was possible until this thread

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[quote]ElevenMag wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]ElevenMag wrote:

So i’m a weak minded quitter just because I went through with a powerlifting competition and I didn’t end up having the same passion for it as you do?[/quote]

No because you quit on it because you thought it looked hard and required sacrifice, not because you didn’t like it. And because you look down on and criticize people for not sharing your goals while at the same time spouting sweeping misinformation to show how other people are dumb for not agreeing.

But that’s just my take

You are aware that getting to extremely low bodyfat levels for a BBing comp isn’t healthy either right? Do you post a comment about “who would do that to their health” every time there is a pic of a shredded BBer?[/quote]

Once again you have some crazy interpretation of what I’ve said. I quit on it because i saw the majority of people there and thought “I don’t want to look like that or have all the problems they described”. I must be a weak minded quitter!

[/quote]
You essentially quit because their might be sacrifice involved. But I was talking more about your need to be-little the people who didn’t run away from it like you.

There are people who do it. It’s hard to be great at both because the structure needed to be great in the 2 doesn’t always overlap.

“I look at his gut and think why the hell would anyone want to look like that?”

Weight…Classes…

If you drive a car consistently, you are bound to get injured to. Same for waking up in the morning.

What about the fact that BBers tend to do exercises in a way that can lead to injury, in the name of muscle activation. Flared elbow bench, squatting styles that pressure the knees more, est?

I guess you shouldn’t do any of that any more either. But then again, driving to the gym is a good way to get injured too, so you should probably lay off of that.

An un-reasonable fear of getting hurt is a pussy reason to quit something. That’s what makes you a quitter.

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[quote]GhostOD wrote:
Maybe some things are more important than how you look. [/quote]

amen

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Sorry if you think I’m continuously insulting powerlifting and calling it dumb. That is not the case at all. For one, in my one competition I was 6’2" 240lbs had a 330 bench, 450 squat and 525 deadlift raw. This was from max-ot style training for football for 4 years (all of high school).

There seems to be no voice of reason with you. If I were to continue down this path I would enviably be a super heavyweight lifting way to heavy of poundages that my joints ligaments and tendons were never meant to handle. I want to pursue my goal of lifelong continuous improvement in the weightlifting hobby of my choice without injury. Choosing powerlifting would almost certainly result in some terrible injuries for me

That is all. I am done with this thread. Continue your discussion about the squat video

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[quote]HeavyTriple wrote:

[quote]MytchBucanan wrote:
It should be noted that this Vytautaus guy squats like a bodybuilder. His knees come forward and he remains fairly upright with a higher bar and closer stance. Most powerlifters that squat this much do the wide stance/shortened range of motion. He does it the harder way.[/quote]

Looks like he squats more like an Olympic lifter to me. I doubt the ideal bodybuilding squat ignores the eccentric like that.[/quote]

Vytautas Lalas is from Lithuania so he was probably taught olympic style squatting. He competes in strongman, not powerlifting, and was most recently in the 2011 WSM that aired on ESPN. Guy is an absolute beast.

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[quote]ElevenMag wrote:
Sorry if you think I’m continuously insulting powerlifting and calling it dumb. That is not the case at all. For one, in my one competition I was 6’2" 240lbs had a 330 bench, 450 squat and 525 deadlift raw. This was from max-ot style training for football for 4 years (all of high school).

There seems to be no voice of reason with you. If I were to continue down this path I would enviably be a super heavyweight lifting way to heavy of poundages that my joints ligaments and tendons were never meant to handle. I want to pursue my goal of lifelong continuous improvement in the weightlifting hobby of my choice without injury. Choosing powerlifting would almost certainly result in some terrible injuries for me

That is all. I am done with this thread. Continue your discussion about the squat video[/quote]

Just a quick question. What weights were your joints meant for?

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All this talk about how hot guys look when they lift has given me an idea…

Anybody up for some naked twister? I’ll bring the mat if somebody else brings the lube.

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[quote]PantherPower wrote:

[quote]HeavyTriple wrote:

[quote]MytchBucanan wrote:
It should be noted that this Vytautaus guy squats like a bodybuilder. His knees come forward and he remains fairly upright with a higher bar and closer stance. Most powerlifters that squat this much do the wide stance/shortened range of motion. He does it the harder way.[/quote]

Looks like he squats more like an Olympic lifter to me. I doubt the ideal bodybuilding squat ignores the eccentric like that.[/quote]

Vytautas Lalas is from Lithuania so he was probably taught olympic style squatting. He competes in strongman, not powerlifting, and was most recently in the 2011 WSM that aired on ESPN. Guy is an absolute beast.[/quote]

That was my thought as well. There are plenty of big raw squatters who squat like that, just not many Americans.