I feel like a lot of Beans posts are being misconstrued in this thread. Let me give you my interpretation and Beans can correct me if I’m wrong.
Beans does not think this should be banned from television. Beans does realize it is a parent’s responsibility to be actively involved in what their children are allowed to watch.
So far, most of the responses in this thread have focused on why Beans shouldn’t care about this as long as he’s a good parent, but Beans isn’t talking about his children. Beans is talking in a macro sense, about all the children who have parents that clearly don’t care.
Sure, it’s none of my business what you watch or what you allow your kids to watch, but what does it say about our culture when we have parents that let their kids watch this type of stuff and what effect will that have on these kids? This isn’t outrage, it’s a discussion and most of what I have seen has been dick waving about why we shouldn’t care at all about our culture. So that’s really the stance we’re taking on this? Regardless of what happens we shouldn’t care what our culture teaches our children? (again, not your children, not my children, but collectively, “our” children) Where do we draw the line? If the VMAs had a 5 minute “skit” about a woman being raped, are we still ok with that because you didn’t let YOUR children watch it?
[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
I feel like a lot of Beans posts are being misconstrued in this thread. Let me give you my interpretation and Beans can correct me if I’m wrong.
Beans does not think this should be banned from television. Beans does realize it is a parent’s responsibility to be actively involved in what their children are allowed to watch.
So far, most of the responses in this thread have focused on why Beans shouldn’t care about this as long as he’s a good parent, but Beans isn’t talking about his children. Beans is talking in a macro sense, about all the children who have parents that clearly don’t care.
Sure, it’s none of my business what you watch or what you allow your kids to watch, but what does it say about our culture when we have parents that let their kids watch this type of stuff and what effect will that have on these kids? This isn’t outrage, it’s a discussion and most of what I have seen has been dick waving about why we shouldn’t care at all about our culture. So that’s really the stance we’re taking on this? Regardless of what happens we shouldn’t care what our culture teaches our children? (again, not your children, not my children, but collectively, “our” children) Where do we draw the line? If the VMAs had a 5 minute “skit” about a woman being raped, are we still ok with that because you didn’t let YOUR children watch it?
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Unless you live in a cave or some doomsday shelter… Chances are your kids have seen this… And they have seen much worse more then likely… When kids leave your home they go to places like school and sometimes their friends houses… At these places peoples have TV, Phones and this thing called the internet…
So what Mylee Cyrus shook her ass in front of Beetle Juice… Madonna kissed Britney spears and Janet Jackson showed some nip… We are still heare on this rock spinning through space… Shes doing here own thing she aint Hanna Montana no mo…All this hype is just helping here out… Chillax its top 40 music welcome to 2013 where chicks dance to devil music and drop it like its hot… Now go back in your bunker & eat a can of beans
[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
I feel like a lot of Beans posts are being misconstrued in this thread. Let me give you my interpretation and Beans can correct me if I’m wrong.
Beans does not think this should be banned from television. Beans does realize it is a parent’s responsibility to be actively involved in what their children are allowed to watch.
So far, most of the responses in this thread have focused on why Beans shouldn’t care about this as long as he’s a good parent, but Beans isn’t talking about his children. Beans is talking in a macro sense, about all the children who have parents that clearly don’t care.
Sure, it’s none of my business what you watch or what you allow your kids to watch, but what does it say about our culture when we have parents that let their kids watch this type of stuff and what effect will that have on these kids? This isn’t outrage, it’s a discussion and most of what I have seen has been dick waving about why we shouldn’t care at all about our culture. So that’s really the stance we’re taking on this? Regardless of what happens we shouldn’t care what our culture teaches our children? (again, not your children, not my children, but collectively, “our” children) Where do we draw the line? If the VMAs had a 5 minute “skit” about a woman being raped, are we still ok with that because you didn’t let YOUR children watch it?
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Unless you live in a cave or some doomsday shelter… Chances are your kids have seen this… And they have seen much worse more then likely… When kids leave your home they go to places like school and sometimes their friends houses… At these places peoples have TV, Phones and this thing called the internet…
So what Mylee Cyrus shook her ass in front of Beetle Juice… Madonna kissed Britney spears and Janet Jackson showed some nip… We are still heare on this rock spinning through space… Shes doing here own thing she aint Hanna Montana no mo…All this hype is just helping here out… Chillax its top 40 music welcome to 2013 where chicks dance to devil music and drop it like its hot… Now go back in your bunker & eat a can of beans
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So you’re still missing the point? I know they’ve seen this and worse. This discussion isn’t even really about MC. We’re just using her as a representation about how crappy our pop culture is.
It seems as though the entire Western world went crazy over Miley Cyrus. Meanwhile there’s this little thing that happened in Syria. I can’t helped but be reminded in some ways of this exchange from Fight Club.
Tyler: We’re consumers. We are by-products of a lifestyle obsession. Murder, crime, poverty… These things don’t concern me. What concerns me are celebrity magazines, television with five hundred channels, some guy’s name on my underwear. Rogaine, Viagra, Olestra.
Narrator: Martha Stewart.
Tyler: Fuck Martha Stewart. Martha’s polishing the brass on the Titanic. It’s all going down, man! So fuck off, with your sofa units and Strinne green stripe patterns. I say never be complete. I say stop being perfect. I say let-let’s evolve, let the chips fall where they may.
Ok. I understand that everyone is racist/biased to some degree on pretty much every topic, and that it takes self awareness to moderate the affect that these predisposition have on our behavior.
But does it make me more or less racist, that I don’t understand or see the racist element of the skank dance?
[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
I feel like a lot of Beans posts are being misconstrued in this thread. Let me give you my interpretation and Beans can correct me if I’m wrong.
Beans does not think this should be banned from television. Beans does realize it is a parent’s responsibility to be actively involved in what their children are allowed to watch.
So far, most of the responses in this thread have focused on why Beans shouldn’t care about this as long as he’s a good parent, but Beans isn’t talking about his children. Beans is talking in a macro sense, about all the children who have parents that clearly don’t care.
Sure, it’s none of my business what you watch or what you allow your kids to watch, but what does it say about our culture when we have parents that let their kids watch this type of stuff and what effect will that have on these kids? This isn’t outrage, it’s a discussion and most of what I have seen has been dick waving about why we shouldn’t care at all about our culture. So that’s really the stance we’re taking on this? Regardless of what happens we shouldn’t care what our culture teaches our children? (again, not your children, not my children, but collectively, “our” children) Where do we draw the line? If the VMAs had a 5 minute “skit” about a woman being raped, are we still ok with that because you didn’t let YOUR children watch it?
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Entertainment can create a false sense of morality within our culture. People have always been crude. People that grew up watching Leave It to Beaver were just as promiscuous and swore just as much. I think the real issue is that people as a collective try to delude ourselves into thinking there’s anything inherently pure about humanity.
Entertainment can create a false sense of morality within our culture. People have always been crude. People that grew up watching Leave It to Beaver were just as promiscuous and swore just as much. I think the real issue is that people as a collective try to delude ourselves into thinking there’s anything inherently pure about humanity. [/quote]
Or they believe that we are all carved out of crooked wood and that it needs strong social and sexual mores to keep us in check.
Entertainment can create a false sense of morality within our culture. People have always been crude. People that grew up watching Leave It to Beaver were just as promiscuous and swore just as much. I think the real issue is that people as a collective try to delude ourselves into thinking there’s anything inherently pure about humanity. [/quote]
Or they believe that we are all carved out of crooked wood and that it needs strong social and sexual mores to keep us in check.
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This.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Disney is ruining cartoons with that new Hulk bullshit (watched 1/4 of one episode and threw up…all over everything…and everyone).
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Next time you feel something like that coming on, you need to shut it off 1/8 of the way through the episode.
Are we okay with that? And if so, at what point do we draw the line?[/quote]
Have we forgotten that Sir Mix A Lot and 2 Live Crew existed? Who do you their music/videos were marketed to? That shit was way worse than this. So if we’re talking about drawing the line at this weird Miley Cyrus stuff, then those guys would be waaaay over it. And yet our culture totally embraces “I Like Big Butts”, which is extraordinarily vulgar in comparison. My thought is we’ll look at this Miley performance the way we look at the Madonna in a wedding dress performance. That is, assuming anyone remembers Miley in 10 years.
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I am going to go out on a limb here, and make a guess that most people who find the Miley Cyrus performance objectionable are not too happy about stuff like “I like Big Butts” being marketed to kids, either.
The problem is that she sucked at it so much. There wasn’t even a pretense of talent and art in the act. It was like watching a grotesque caricature of what pop stars are.
She didn’t have the body, moves, the voice, nor had she developed her public appearance enough before trying to pull it off.
Now as far as the societal part goes, I hate all of this crap including the ‘well done’ acts like the Madonna thing, Britney Spears, Prince, etc, etc and thinks it does society harm. Expressions of society or influences of society… or more like an ongoing feedback loop that will meet a breaking point is what it seems like to me.
[quote]Fletch1986 wrote:
The problem is that she sucked at it so much. There wasn’t even a pretense of talent and art in the act. It was like watching a grotesque caricature of what pop stars are.
She didn’t have the body, moves, the voice, nor had she developed her public appearance enough before trying to pull it off.
Now as far as the societal part goes, I hate all of this crap including the ‘well done’ acts like the Madonna thing, Britney Spears, Prince, etc, etc and thinks it does society harm. Expressions of society or influences of society… or more like an ongoing feedback loop that will meet a breaking point is what it seems like to me. [/quote]
I agree. Except the fact that she sucked so much almost saves society a bit because we all cringe and say omg is this what it’s come to? Make it stop! “I want to dance like Miley Cyrus!” said no teenage girl ever.
The only reason this is even a story is because her ass was so terrible.
That is the real tragedy here.
Flat, flabby asses.
Squats, Lunges and Step ups are what the youth of America needs.