Vitamins By I.V.

I’ve had this twice now, after having two therapeutic phlebotomies (blood letting). I’ve yet to notice anything whatsoever. Is this a scam? Anyone done this?

Nursing Home??

wait, what is going on? you paid money to put vitamins in your blood and then you paid money to bleed it out?

[quote]Headhunter wrote:
I’ve had this twice now, after having two therapeutic phlebotomies (blood letting). I’ve yet to notice anything whatsoever. Is this a scam? Anyone done this?[/quote]

did they run out of cookies?

Hey Idiots,

This is not PWI. Go troll there, bugwits.

I love it…Ive done nutrtional IVs and seriously could “feel” it…probably a little bit from a nice bag of hydration along with vitamins right into the blood stream…my current doc doesnt have it set up for IVs so I get bi-weekly injections at the office, B-Complex, some other multi vitamin/mineral, and do daily Vitamin C and Gluithione injections at home,and 3 times week B12 Methycobalamin at home. Stuff works for real…could depend on your current state of health and diet, supplementation, etc…for me totally worth it…if you have a doc wanting to do it run with it.

[quote]Headhunter wrote:
I’ve had this twice now, after having two therapeutic phlebotomies (blood letting). I’ve yet to notice anything whatsoever. Is this a scam? Anyone done this?[/quote]

Phlebotomies are a great way to rid the body of excessive Iron. Too much Iron in the body is never a good thing…I think tumors(Iron deposits) are pretty self-explanatory of that.

I always get my blood work done every 2 weeks too keep everything in check and right now my “Ferritn” levels have been a rock solid 30. Ideally every Male should have their Ferritn levels below 200.

Phlebotomies are the way to go for excessive Iron.

Wow…if that wasnt cocky and arrogant…so I guess I have “very limited physiological knowledge”…you’re a real wise guy for someone who doesnt know me at all. Man I better save up my money to come hang out with you, bet you got all the answers homeboy ha :slight_smile:

Don’t know a thing about vitamins via I.V., but I do give blood about once every 8 weeks. My understanding is the touted health benefits of giving blood (as well as phlebotomies/bloodletting) are anecdotal.

Personally, it seems like it might be similar to getting the oil changed in my car. When I give a pint of blood (approx 1/10 of an average human’s blood volume) I’m forcing my body to regenerate that lost pint of blood with new fresh blood. Also, even though the evidence is only anecdotal, there is the possibility of lower risk of heart disease and iron overload.

Bottom line, even if there’s no health benefit to me, every time I donate I’m helping to save lives, and that’s all the incentive I need. So instead of bloodletting, why not take a trip down to the blood bank and donate a pint.

[quote]MODOK wrote:
It may save you some money in the long run. Or if you would like, you could just explain to me the advantage that someone with a fully functional and intact GI tract would have by taking vitamins and minerals which would be absorbed just fine if they are simply eaten, would instead take them parenterally at 1000 x the cost. I might have missed something in my doctoral education on parenteral nutrition.

By the way, I wasn’t talking to you initially. I was talking to that asshat, Headhunter.[/quote]

Some nutrients don’t survive the GI tract (see: glutathione). Intravenous administration also allows you to use doses that would cause GI distress taken orally (such as those necessary to correct deficiencies).

You must have skipped that day.

When I have more time if interested for the original poster and anyone else interested, Ill just give my experience not education on IV and IM/SubQ supplements…Ive been using supplements as crazy as it might be since 6th grade back when it was Weider Amino Chewables, Liver Tabs, Twinlab Amino Fuel (original puke flavor), etc…as an athlete and a coach my entire life ive been a fanatic about trying to use nutriton and supplements to up my game, and Ive done a lot of good and idiotic things all in the name of self experimentation of higher performance mentally and physically.

Medical issues aside that I am dealing with, “if I knew then what I do now” I still would if totally “healthy” gotten nutritional IVs and injectable supplements…high dose Vitamin C, Gluithione, B complex and B12, Myers Cocktail, Taurine, other amino acid blends with vitamins/minerals, its worked for me. It also worked for other friends who at the time were competitive athletes.

I do respect anyone who pursues higher education for sure and can appreciate that. I just do not know enough about you or your program to give an opinion to what you may know. I do know in other areas of education, ie strength and conditioning/exercise science/related degrees, most of the professors and material they teach is complete theory, with little practical application or experience in “what works” outside of the textbook or lab. As well the “integrative” “functional medicine” “holistic” MDs I have worked with, flat out tell you none of the stuff they learned about nutrition in med school has allowed them to do the type of work they are doing now with supplementation or hormone balancing, getting people off prescription meds, etc…this just isnt stuff they are teaching in med schools from what the doc’s Ive seen say. Its their own interest and drive to learn more that led them to the types of practices they are running today.

If you like toying with things and have the cash I dont think it would hurt to give it a go. If you do have any immune system issues, short or long term, Id rock it for sure, pre/post surgery, or just hitting a stressful time in life physically or emotionally, Id give it a whirl. Im glad I did. This doesnt mean I eat like crap and do not take oral supplements either, or think that its the end all miracle…just another tool in the toolbox. You still gotten dot your I’s and cross your T’s in your nutrition, supplementation, training, recovery methods, stress managment in life, etc.

A quick google for those interested:
http://www.rosettakoach.com/nutritiona_IV_therapy.htm

http://injectablevitaminc.com/

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0FDN/is_5_7/ai_94159009/

http://www.innerlighthealth.com/nutritionalIVs.html

http://www.ivnutritionaltherapy.com/

http://www.hochealth.com/services%20IV%20nutrition.htm

http://www.corebellahealth.com/Nutritional_IV_Therapy.htm

http://alternativecancerselfhelp.com/nutritional-iv-therapy-and-chelation/

As for costs the IV drips can be expensive, but if you find the right doctor who gives you scripts for injectable supplements, they are fairly inexpensive from the compounding pharmacies who specialize in that.