Inj Vitamins/Nutritional IVs

Hi,
Looking to see if anyone has experience with nutritional IVs and/or injectable vitamins. I was doing nutritional IVs for a few weeks, vitamin C, gluothione, Myers Cocktail, Taurine, etc…cost got too high and switched primary care MDs. New doc has me on inj B12 at home, and once every two weeks in the office B complex and another multi vitamin of some sort with choline in it. He said for whatever reason you cant prescribe those ones for home use and we have to do them in the office. The office I go to is not set up for nutritional IVs, so we are trying the gluithione by inhaler. He would be open to whatever suggestions I gave him for options in the office or prescriptions until he is set up for nutritional IVs. So, anyone know of injectable Vitamin C, or other injectable vitamin cocktails that have positive effects on immune system and over all health?

I tried searching injectable vitamin C and it seems there is only sources overseas for it, all that is available in the US is IV Vit C.

Thanks

I have been a subscriber of a Dr. Whitaker for 17 years. Go to www.drwhitaker.com. Buy a one year subscribtion. That will get you into the archives. There is more valuable information available to most people than they can handle. Dr. Whitaker has a clinic in California. it is not cheap, but well worth the time & money.

cool, ill check out the site. Does he do injectables and IV therapy? Or just orals?

I have researched Vitamin “C” and you can get the levels of a IV Dose with 1000mg (non time released) if taken every 45 minutes, just hold back if the diahhrea starts. I have eliminated common colds this way with doses as high as 40,000 mg in one day.

are you sh$tting me? Is it subQ or IM? As well Im a bit confused why some vitamins are subQ, others IM, and others from what the doc says only work IV…if anyone has a handle on some of this stuff please chime in. While I have a doc willing to do any related scripts to this sort of thing I want to take advantage of it. SAs well my immune system is pretty beat up.

Dr Whitaker promotes IV C for a number of reasons, as well as B12 under certain circumstances. About 10 years ago I got a cut on my leg, it infected and I wound up in a hospital with 106 temperature. I was within 2 hours of being dead. They told me a week later that the only reason I lived was from being a lifelong exercisor, and a vitamin taker in a big way. All the vitamin info I still use came from 17 years of Dr Whitaker.

[quote]bluecollarjock wrote:
are you sh$tting me? Is it subQ or IM? As well Im a bit confused why some vitamins are subQ, others IM, and others from what the doc says only work IV…if anyone has a handle on some of this stuff please chime in. While I have a doc willing to do any related scripts to this sort of thing I want to take advantage of it. SAs well my immune system is pretty beat up.[/quote]
Being a Nurse the only thing I see regularly is Dextrose and potassium IV, the Vit C I mentioned is taking it orally.

I thought maybe more guys on here would have experience since every HRT doctors office I have been to on the west coast, they all also do Nutritional IV therapy and injectable vitamins. I loved nutritional IVs, was getting 3 bags a week of Myers Cocktail, Taurine, Vitamin C, Gluithione.

Fantastic stuff…but insurance wasnt covering it…got a good HRT doctor now, but he doesnt have a nurse to run nutritional IV therapy right now even though in his other offices he does (due to my insurance I need to go to the specific office where he can accept the billing), so we are stuck with injectable vitamins he can do on office visits every two weeks. I was kinda hoping there might be some injectable Vit C that someone knew of so I could at least do that for time being, and if anyone has done injectable gluithione (Ive done it in IVs loved it, now am doing it by an inhaler type thing but dont think its working well).

So I guess its pretty unique if not many guys on here have done it for any reason.

Ill dig into Dr. W’s site after I return from the holidays!

http://www.wellspringclinic.com/nutritional-iv-therapies.html
http://www.ivnutritionaltherapy.com/

etc etc

There are other ways to increase your glutathione if thats what you are looking for.

Even thought that the inmune system is very complex IV are not always the only and most effective to increase it!

Several nutraceuticals and botanicals help.

If you get the chance please elaborate Jorge or Ill PM you if you dont want to post it up. Im not familiar with nutraceuticals or botanicals?

Nutraceutical is the term that is given to vitamins, minerals Amino Acids and other Natural compounds that in the right dosage can help with a disease or health problem.

Botanicals are plants, herbs, leaves , roots, or a blend of a plant/s that can help deal with a disease or health problem.

Some people just call them supplements but some MD’s call them either Nutraceuticals (given that they have medicinal properties) and botanicals.

And i guess that’s the right way to call them since " The dosage is what makes them work".

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So, anyone know of injectable Vitamin C, or other injectable vitamin cocktails that have positive effects on immune system and over all health?

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google: Trim nutrition dot com

They are based in Florida, I believe.

Ill probably give it a whirl until I can get IV treatments again…I wish I understood the pros/cons of IM injections vs IV, and how SubQ fits in there…if each nutrient is different in how it can be utilized and who figures that out?

Thanks Jorge!

I imagine the supplements I am on now from the MD are nutraceuticals/botanicals…I think actaully nutraceutical is part of one of the companys names.

Glutathione is best given in a “push” format. For a great immune combo, I once had IV Vit. C dripped over like 40 mins, then glutathione pushed. That seemed to work well. I would look into your gut health, since most of your immune system is there.

Cool…talked to someone at the Trim Nutrition place, supposed to get back to me. Will speak to my doctor about wanting more injectable vitamins when I go next. My nagging colds/URIs from apparently Adrenal Fatigue are still kicking my ass 3 years later…I need to cut this stuff out…

For Adrenal Fatigue support, and immune system boosting, if you guys could list your top choices for supplements (injectable or not), so I can compile a list to speak to my doctor about getting-if he gets it its 100% free on my end with insurance. So if you guys have ideas for favorite anti oxidants, adaptogens, immune and adrenal support, fire away!!!

And still if people come up with more info on injectable vitamin sources Id appreciate it. Do some digging there is a TON of info on IV or Vit C shots.

Thanks!

Have you done a good allergy test (ex. food)?

Do you have mercury feelings on your teeth?

Whats your blood preassure?

Whats your diet like? Give us an example of a common day

How many hours of sleep a day do you get?

where do you tend to accumulate most of your fat?

Do you eat or use to eat to much processed food?

You have to remember that both adrenal fatigue and immune system are cortisol related. So if you are not fixing that problem first it doesn’t matter what you take you are never going to get well.
Once you find out or ruled out the cause of your systematic problem, you start with the protocols.
Because there are a lot of things that help but everything is specific for some problem. What you have been taking or doing MIGHT not be what you need.

It can be as simple as you are not getting enough vitamin D!!!

So do you get enough sun light?

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Have you done a good allergy test (ex. food)?

***YES-the Leap MRT test which cost me $950…showed I do not have a high reactivity to much of anything, despite this doctor wants me on chicken, lean beef, fruits and veggies. Nothing processed at all. So thats what Im sticking with. I was using milk and yogurt for protein shakes but for now he wants me to just cut out anything man made…doesnt think Im allergic to anything but figures it will be good for my system until I am feeling better. So I basically am on a caveman diet, and I still do occasionally have rice though since its so easy.

Do you have mercury feelings on your teeth?

***Never had a cavity in my life.

Whats your blood preassure?

***for past three years it severely fluctautes. One day Id get 180/100 at a doctors office, next day 120/70…no predictable pattern either. I had so many appoinments a week we tracked it tightly, and could not come up with reasons other than general stress? There have been points it dropped lower and id get light headed if I got up fast or laughed too hard, literally would black out!

Whats your diet like? Give us an example of a common day

***Well its kinda FUBAR a little now because Im with family for holidays, so Ive been eating “normal”. But a typical day is wake up and take my thyroid, then wait a few hours and then have a protein shake. 3 hours later chicken and potatoe, BCAA shake during workout, post workout chicken or buffalo beef and spinach or another veggie, and later another protein shake. I was doing more fruit, but re-reading Dr. Wilsons book it says to avoid fruit with AD…but I was doing lots of bananas, apples, grapes, pears, along with Omega 3 Trail Mix from Trader Joes as my in between meals snacks.

How many hours of sleep a day do you get?

***Been trying to get 7-9, but I wake up all the time…used to be from sickness, stress, pain, but past few months ive settled into retirement a little better, doing lots of meditation and relaxation training with bio and neurofeedback, and on my own. So I will fall asleep great after a body scan and feel like Im good to go, and wake up 2-3 hours later…and do that a few times a night. So doc gave me Xyrem/GHB, saying its better than sleep medications because it converts to GABA, helps with GH and dopamine which I could use. I didnt bring it on the holiday here but am hoping I can start getting more long term sound sleep with it.

where do you tend to accumulate most of your fat?

***Until this period of the perfect storm in my life, I really didnt have fat. Been a good 10% my entire life, highly competitive athlete, and trained hard core in olympic lifts and powerlifting, MMA, and did all the football and hockey workouts alongside the Ivy League and Big East athletes I coached up until I was 30 no problems. So now, for the past few years, its SCARY how much weight and bodyfat Ive gained, and every ounce of it is in my gut and love handles. With clothes on most people who know me think I lost weight from what I used to be, when really im 260, with a gigantic belly (for me at least). I was normally in the 220-245 range, with the times I hit 245 being very difficult and intentional, eating 6k calories a day, protein shakes every 3 hours on the dime, seriously heavy volume training in the O and P lifts. So id say naturally Im 220-230…with a 34-36" waist…now Im 260 with a 38-40" waist according to clothes size at least. Its f–king annoying.

Do you eat or use to eat to much processed food?

***Nope. I started eating like a bodybuilding in 7th grade, along with hard training and supplementation…and continued evolving my diet from the bodybuilding stuff to more of a power athletes diet over the years as I made mistakes, as I was a high school and college football player, and after college still trained college athletes and did MMA, so kept eating like one. So nah, never was a big junk food or processd food guy.

You have to remember that both adrenal fatigue and immune system are cortisol related. So if you are not fixing that problem first it doesn’t matter what you take you are never going to get well.
Once you find out or ruled out the cause of your systematic problem, you start with the protocols.
Because there are a lot of things that help but everything is specific for some problem. What you have been taking or doing MIGHT not be what you need.

It can be as simple as you are not getting enough vitamin D!!!

So do you get enough sun light?

***Vitamin D and B levels were low for past few years. Currently on Vit D 5000iu day. B12 Methy 3x week SubQ, and once every two weeks B complex and multi vitamin shot in the doctor office.

In in SoCal now, so been getting plenty of sunlight but thats just in past 4 months.

Any suggestions please shoot them to me…I got medically retired, want to get back into physical and mental shape to study up to apply to some PhD programs. Hell even if I cant get back into great shape and strong enough to start a PhD program, Id just like my quality of life to improve…compared to the life I used to live a short time ago up until 31, Im hitting 35 in a few days and feel like a 70 year old. Too young to be feeling this way. I went from one extreme to the other from some botched surgeries, internal infections, and a few years of seriously incompetent workers comp doctors who shoved enormous amounts of pain killers, anti biotics, muscle relaxers, and other medications that finally 3 years later fought to get to Hopkins who referred me to Cleveland Clinic, and was told I was so sick and screwed up because the workers comp doctors and process had me bouncing around to too many doctors who didnt pay attention to the high amount of medications I was on, anti biotics that killed all the good bacteria and flora in my system, and the meds along with stress from being told I had cancer or a disease they couldnt find, physical illness, and pending retirement hassles, blunted my hormones…

So thats my story in a nutshell.

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Ive been trying to understand cortisol better…my levels were sky high for a long period, now are low…and Im on 4 grains Armor Thyroid a day and dont feel jack…so what Im gathering is I gotta get on Cortef if Im not feeling the Thyroid make any improvements?

Is there a reason why you are not shooting that methylcobalamin intra muscularly?