Wow, everyone one of his posts breaks down to a pissing contest. These are hilarious though.
[quote]snipeout wrote:
Wow, everyone one of his posts breaks down to a pissing contest. These are hilarious though.[/quote]
like clockwork
that train is never late
just stick around and enjoy the show
i’m gonna write one about bugs next
throw a curveball at em’
they don’t know whats coming
but its gonna be entertaining
i should be gettin’ paid for this
[quote]kheaslim wrote:
Mr pushups
Although you are very aggressive in proving your points, I have to admit I am very curious about what you are talking about. I often wondered myself, if pull ups are better than their counterpart, the pull down, wouldn’t that make push ups better than the bench press? That is, if you could add enough resistance.
Would you post an example of your training week? I am curious about how you work in your bodyweight exercises in with your weight training. As well as your energy systems training. Thanks.[/quote]
Since you asked so politely, i’ll hook ya up
The reason most people don’t do bodyweight exercises is this: because they can’t and they’re too hard
most guys have alter ego’s they like to rub
they hit the bench press, and think they look cool with some big 45lb weights on it, meanwhile thier chest just suffered because they put too much weight on and worked out thier delts and triceps instead…all they had to do was a Vince Gironda Style Dip…and they would have destroyed thier chest…but that exercise is too hard for them and they can’t look cool doing it.
Biceps, the most unfunctional muscle there is…guys work them all day long…curl after curl after curl for what…looks, ego, maybe they think they look cool again with a couple of 45’s swingin’ up on the e-z bar. might as well do some gay ass concentration curls too…after all it kinda looks like thier jerkin the gerk when they do em’…maybe they get off on that easy ass exercise…
now if they wanted to do a real bicep exercise, they could have grabed a chin up bar and start curling thier body up…most guys can’t do em. and the ones that can, dont. it dont look cool if they can only do 3 pull ups right…
now hamstrings, probably the most functional muscle there is, one of the most difficult ones to try to build…do hous work these…hell no…they can’t look cool doing legs…lunges no way…might be mistaken for a chic exercise…
“The Squat”
the most valuable overall exercise is this one, who does these, only the best
the serious guys will squat and lunge, they want muscles…the tool bags will hit the leg press machine, because you add a lot of plates and do an easier exercise, and maybe somebody will notice you…ego filler…horray…time for some more concentration curls…gotta build those biceps…i wanna look cool with having big useless muscles, and forget hams…i aint workin them…too hard
Push ups, ut oh look out
the most versatile exercise there is
can be done in countless positions to target numerous muscles and have a great overall upperbody developer
BUT,
most of the time your down on the ground, in the trenches, nobody can see you do this…“f” them…i wanna be seen, its kinda hard too…i gotta ballance myself…this sucks…i’d rather lie down on a bench with some cushins…plus i can’t do alot of them before i get to tired
where’s that bench press let me work my tri’s again, i’ll have a chicken chest but at least i’m gonna look cool pressing this bar up
Truth is, it’s easier!
Its in human nature to find an easier way to do something.
but when it comes to building muscle
you want the most challanging way possible
Arnold got to where he is by challenging himself, and pushing himself. always looking for muscle acheing pain, he translated this pain into progress, never cutting himself short or cheating himself
most people never come close to this realization. in order to make your body more beautiful, you have to make it do things it doesn’t want to do
doing the hardest possible routine, exercises,
and the key will always be your mind
its really the painful reps that divide most of us, most people quit repping long before thier muscles do
the trick is to beat your body with your mind
your mind wants to quit, but your body doesn’t
even after the 10th rep with a certain weight your mind says quit. no more. put it down. you still can do maybe 40 or 400 more, all you would have to do is maybe gut out 2-5 more reps, then keep repping as you were resting in between reps, most people will never reach a pain threshold felt like Arnold felt and some others felt, first you have to build it, then every time you go past a certain point, your mind says i can handle that. i’ve been here before. then you keep going. the most excrutiating pain will be felt by doing very long sets of endless repping. this is the pain tollerance…you build this up big enough…you will set yourself apart from the rest
and you’ll be the best
best you, anyways.
good luck!
There is no doubt that chin ups and pull ups build a great back and biceps as well as dips and push ups build a great chest and triceps. I just think that there is only so far that these exercises alone will take you. You need more than just these exercises. I am not disagreeing that an elevated push up isnt a good exercise but so are DB incline presses with 130 pound DB’s. From reading your posts MRPU’s you try to hard to force your opinion on people around here, just relax, no need to have everyone of your threads shredded because people like to wind you up.
[quote]snipeout wrote:
I just think that there is only so far that these exercises alone will take you.
[/quote]
I disagree. I have worked up to doing weighted one arm pushups. I also have been working on one arm pullups and can do a 3 x 3 with one finger assistance. There really is no limit to these exercises! How about trying a 2-finger handstand! This isn’t even mentioning gymnastics, such as the iron cross, one-arm planches, etc.
[quote]snipeout wrote:
There is no doubt that chin ups and pull ups build a great back and biceps as well as dips and push ups build a great chest and triceps. I just think that there is only so far that these exercises alone will take you. You need more than just these exercises. I am not disagreeing that an elevated push up isnt a good exercise but so are DB incline presses with 130 pound DB’s. From reading your posts MRPU’s you try to hard to force your opinion on people around here, just relax, no need to have everyone of your threads shredded because people like to wind you up.[/quote]
Methinks you are arguing with the wrong person…he doesn’t take well to criticism.
Which is a shame, because there are good points buried in the bullshit and Furey-esque rhetoric.
[quote]uberswank wrote:
snipeout wrote:
I just think that there is only so far that these exercises alone will take you.
I disagree. I have worked up to doing weighted one arm pushups. I also have been working on one arm pullups and can do a 3 x 3 with one finger assistance. There really is no limit to these exercises! How about trying a 2-finger handstand! This isn’t even mentioning gymnastics, such as the iron cross, one-arm planches, etc. [/quote]
You have agreed with everything he has said thus far. Are you work out partners…and if so, how do you decide who gets to kill the jaguar with their bare hands?
[quote]uberswank wrote:
snipeout wrote:
I just think that there is only so far that these exercises alone will take you.
I disagree. I have worked up to doing weighted one arm pushups. I also have been working on one arm pullups and can do a 3 x 3 with one finger assistance. There really is no limit to these exercises! How about trying a 2-finger handstand! This isn’t even mentioning gymnastics, such as the iron cross, one-arm planches, etc. [/quote]
All fine exercises but unlikely to win you a powerlifting or bodybuilding contest just as benching and squatting is unlikely to win a gymnastics meet.
Different paths for people with different destinations.
I think I found a video of this very workout.
[quote]Mr. Push Ups wrote:
Since you asked so politely, i’ll hook ya up
The reason most people don’t do bodyweight exercises is this: because they can’t and they’re too hard
most guys have alter ego’s they like to rub
they hit the bench press, and think they look cool with some big 45lb weights on it, meanwhile thier chest just suffered because they put too much weight on and worked out thier delts and triceps instead…all they had to do was a Vince Gironda Style Dip…and they would have destroyed thier chest…but that exercise is too hard for them and they can’t look cool doing it.
Biceps, the most unfunctional muscle there is…guys work them all day long…curl after curl after curl for what…looks, ego, maybe they think they look cool again with a couple of 45’s swingin’ up on the e-z bar. might as well do some gay ass concentration curls too…after all it kinda looks like thier jerkin the gerk when they do em’…maybe they get off on that easy ass exercise…
now if they wanted to do a real bicep exercise, they could have grabed a chin up bar and start curling thier body up…most guys can’t do em. and the ones that can, dont. it dont look cool if they can only do 3 pull ups right…
now hamstrings, probably the most functional muscle there is, one of the most difficult ones to try to build…do hous work these…hell no…they can’t look cool doing legs…lunges no way…might be mistaken for a chic exercise…
“The Squat”
the most valuable overall exercise is this one, who does these, only the best
the serious guys will squat and lunge, they want muscles…the tool bags will hit the leg press machine, because you add a lot of plates and do an easier exercise, and maybe somebody will notice you…ego filler…horray…time for some more concentration curls…gotta build those biceps…i wanna look cool with having big useless muscles, and forget hams…i aint workin them…too hard
Push ups, ut oh look out
the most versatile exercise there is
can be done in countless positions to target numerous muscles and have a great overall upperbody developer
BUT,
most of the time your down on the ground, in the trenches, nobody can see you do this…“f” them…i wanna be seen, its kinda hard too…i gotta ballance myself…this sucks…i’d rather lie down on a bench with some cushins…plus i can’t do alot of them before i get to tired
where’s that bench press let me work my tri’s again, i’ll have a chicken chest but at least i’m gonna look cool pressing this bar up
Truth is, it’s easier!
Its in human nature to find an easier way to do something.
but when it comes to building muscle
you want the most challanging way possible
Arnold got to where he is by challenging himself, and pushing himself. always looking for muscle acheing pain, he translated this pain into progress, never cutting himself short or cheating himself
most people never come close to this realization. in order to make your body more beautiful, you have to make it do things it doesn’t want to do
doing the hardest possible routine, exercises,
and the key will always be your mind
its really the painful reps that divide most of us, most people quit repping long before thier muscles do
the trick is to beat your body with your mind
your mind wants to quit, but your body doesn’t
even after the 10th rep with a certain weight your mind says quit. no more. put it down. you still can do maybe 40 or 400 more, all you would have to do is maybe gut out 2-5 more reps, then keep repping as you were resting in between reps, most people will never reach a pain threshold felt like Arnold felt and some others felt, first you have to build it, then every time you go past a certain point, your mind says i can handle that. i’ve been here before. then you keep going. the most excrutiating pain will be felt by doing very long sets of endless repping. this is the pain tollerance…you build this up big enough…you will set yourself apart from the rest
and you’ll be the best
best you, anyways.
good luck!
[/quote]
I understand what you are saying. I have used bodyweight exercises in the past, but only if I could not get into a gym. However, I have always been curious about bodyweight exercises, especially after hearing stories about guys in prison getting huge and ripped from bodyweight exercises alone.
So, I am curious to know what a bodyweight oriented workout would look like. Would you be able to give me an example of a training day, or week?
[quote]snipeout wrote:
There is no doubt that chin ups and pull ups build a great back and biceps as well as dips and push ups build a great chest and triceps. I just think that there is only so far that these exercises alone will take you. You need more than just these exercises. I am not disagreeing that an elevated push up isnt a good exercise but so are DB incline presses with 130 pound DB’s. From reading your posts MRPU’s you try to hard to force your opinion on people around here, just relax, no need to have everyone of your threads shredded because people like to wind you up.[/quote]
Its O.K.,
I take that aggrevation out on my workouts. I benefit from it.
I personally seek phyical perfection. I can’t get there without out…
(Powerlifting Method)
Maximal Strength Exercises)- Bench Press, Deadlift, Clean & Press…etc
(Olympic Method or see Waterbury’s Articles)
Explosive Strength Exercises- Olympic Lifts, Clap Push Ups, Lunges, Balistic Bench Presses…etc
(Navy Seal Method)
Muscular Endurance Exercises- Push Ups, Dips, Sit Ups
(Boxing And Wrestlers Method)Cardivascular Endurance & Stamina Exercises- Jumping Rope, Heavybag Interval Training, Running Stairs
(Bruce Lee Method)- Maximal Strength With Speed
(Arnold Method)- Maximal Hypertrophy Training- High Volume Training With High Frequency
(Gymnist & Martial Arts Method)-
Maximal Flexibility & Ballance Training
The best way to achieve this is to train like an athlete.
Maximal Frequency, Volume, Variety, Intensity, & Commitment.
I dont want to press 1000 lbs over my head & reduce my endurance. I don’t want to weigh 300 lbs and reduce my speed. I don’t want to limit my athletic potential. Period. I want to maximize it.
I want the maximum amount of strength, speed, endurance, and agility.
I want to push my physical limits to the edge.
To attain physiacl perfection, you have to be willing to sacrafice and pay the ultimate price. Pain. The more your push your bodys pain threshold, the more beautiful it becomes.
I don’t have a workout routine per say. My only routine is “Pain”. Whatever I have to do to get there is what I strive for.
Arnold wanted Hypertrophy and Symmetry for bodybuilding. He pushed his pain threshold further then anyone to reach that goal. He paid the price and recieved the benefits. He is the “Best Bodybuilder Ever”
Bruce Lee did the same for martial arts. He was the best “Martial Artist ever”
You know, there’s an old saying that goes something like this. “If you want to be average, do what everyone else is doing. If you want to be the best, do what nobody else will do”
I live & die by that.
I seem to remember Mike Tyson saying in his glory days that the reason he got up so early to train, was because none of his opponents were.
[quote]kheaslim wrote:
Mr. Push Ups wrote:
Since you asked so politely, i’ll hook ya up
The reason most people don’t do bodyweight exercises is this: because they can’t and they’re too hard
most guys have alter ego’s they like to rub
they hit the bench press, and think they look cool with some big 45lb weights on it, meanwhile thier chest just suffered because they put too much weight on and worked out thier delts and triceps instead…all they had to do was a Vince Gironda Style Dip…and they would have destroyed thier chest…but that exercise is too hard for them and they can’t look cool doing it.
Biceps, the most unfunctional muscle there is…guys work them all day long…curl after curl after curl for what…looks, ego, maybe they think they look cool again with a couple of 45’s swingin’ up on the e-z bar. might as well do some gay ass concentration curls too…after all it kinda looks like thier jerkin the gerk when they do em’…maybe they get off on that easy ass exercise…
now if they wanted to do a real bicep exercise, they could have grabed a chin up bar and start curling thier body up…most guys can’t do em. and the ones that can, dont. it dont look cool if they can only do 3 pull ups right…
now hamstrings, probably the most functional muscle there is, one of the most difficult ones to try to build…do hous work these…hell no…they can’t look cool doing legs…lunges no way…might be mistaken for a chic exercise…
“The Squat”
the most valuable overall exercise is this one, who does these, only the best
the serious guys will squat and lunge, they want muscles…the tool bags will hit the leg press machine, because you add a lot of plates and do an easier exercise, and maybe somebody will notice you…ego filler…horray…time for some more concentration curls…gotta build those biceps…i wanna look cool with having big useless muscles, and forget hams…i aint workin them…too hard
Push ups, ut oh look out
the most versatile exercise there is
can be done in countless positions to target numerous muscles and have a great overall upperbody developer
BUT,
most of the time your down on the ground, in the trenches, nobody can see you do this…“f” them…i wanna be seen, its kinda hard too…i gotta ballance myself…this sucks…i’d rather lie down on a bench with some cushins…plus i can’t do alot of them before i get to tired
where’s that bench press let me work my tri’s again, i’ll have a chicken chest but at least i’m gonna look cool pressing this bar up
Truth is, it’s easier!
Its in human nature to find an easier way to do something.
but when it comes to building muscle
you want the most challanging way possible
Arnold got to where he is by challenging himself, and pushing himself. always looking for muscle acheing pain, he translated this pain into progress, never cutting himself short or cheating himself
most people never come close to this realization. in order to make your body more beautiful, you have to make it do things it doesn’t want to do
doing the hardest possible routine, exercises,
and the key will always be your mind
its really the painful reps that divide most of us, most people quit repping long before thier muscles do
the trick is to beat your body with your mind
your mind wants to quit, but your body doesn’t
even after the 10th rep with a certain weight your mind says quit. no more. put it down. you still can do maybe 40 or 400 more, all you would have to do is maybe gut out 2-5 more reps, then keep repping as you were resting in between reps, most people will never reach a pain threshold felt like Arnold felt and some others felt, first you have to build it, then every time you go past a certain point, your mind says i can handle that. i’ve been here before. then you keep going. the most excrutiating pain will be felt by doing very long sets of endless repping. this is the pain tollerance…you build this up big enough…you will set yourself apart from the rest
and you’ll be the best
best you, anyways.
good luck!
I understand what you are saying. I have used bodyweight exercises in the past, but only if I could not get into a gym. However, I have always been curious about bodyweight exercises, especially after hearing stories about guys in prison getting huge and ripped from bodyweight exercises alone.
So, I am curious to know what a bodyweight oriented workout would look like. Would you be able to give me an example of a training day, or week?
[/quote]
I started bodyweight workouts after traing 10 years with non-bodyweight workouts. I had already built up pretty good strength so now i was after some size.
I started with the Navy Seal workout. It starts off slowly and builds up slowly. It generally an endurance workout, but the residual bulking effects are tremendous. Like your forementioned Prison lifters. Funny thing, i have a friend Brandon who seems to be a magnet to that facility and finds himself there every couple of years. Everytime he comes out, he is jacked. All he does is like 4 or 5 different bodyweight exercises. but he does them all the time. He doesn’t even do strength training. He simply does countless sets of mostly push ups all day long. He said he’s done as many as 30 sets in a day. He does low volume sets , maybe 25 reps. But, he alwasy goes back to the weights when hes out and never seems to keep himslef motivated or jacked. Prison is the only place he gets built.
A good bodyweight workout includes the following:
-something done in less than an hour
-something that stresses the entire body
-something with minimal rest
-something that cant be repeated frequently
-a mixture of about 6 exercises, 3 sets a day, everyday would be one example
-a mixture of 2 or 3 exercises done throughout the day in low volume sets would be another…(like my chest blasting routine>>> dips and pushups every day in short sets as frequently as you can (say 10-20 sets of 10-25 reps every day throughout the day)
The benefit of a bodyweight exercise is this:
for bodybuilders- they will have greater hypertrophy than a high volume 1 day a week split muscle workout. Why? because they’re are spending more total time breaking down the muscle, in countless quality sets at maximum rest and strength.
A 30 min High Volume set chest workout, 1 day a week, will not be superior to a guy who spent 7 total hours in a week training his chest. Almost impossible to do with non-bodyweight because of the damage it does to your CNS, bodyweight exercises can be used 24 hours a day if the vloulme is low enough. The trick for maximum hypertrophy is to find a way to get the maximal volume and maximal frequency without overtraining or shutting your CNS down. This is best accomplished thru fullbody bodyweight routines done as frequently as possible.
There are many ways to achieve your goals. there is no 1 way to do it. I can build a better chest by doiing an inferior bench press than someone doing the superior push ups. How? intensity & frequency and my plan an execution.
Most people will never come close to thier genetic potential not because of the routine, but rather the intensity & commitment.
Yes. Bodyweight exercises are superior to non-bodyweight exercises, but only if the level of intensity is the same. Most people don’t have the will power to push themselves to reach the level of muscular fatigue in bodyweight exercises that is equvalent to that of a heavy nonbody weight exercise that already cheats you there so you are left without a choice. Non-bodyweight exercises are good for leaving your brain out of the equasion. Some times with a heavy barbell you have no choice but to do only 1 or 2 reps, thats all your muscle will allow. There are bodyweight exercises that stimulate the muscles very well that could seemingly never end.
Most people will not push themselves hard enough to recive the benifits from bodyweight exercises. There is a way to cheat your mind by using chemicals that will increase the duration of your high ATP levels. Also using anabolics will cheat the system to. You can carry waterweight muscle that will look bigger than a denser muscle of exact same size, it just wont be as strong.
Compare a bodybuilds 30" steroid built thighs, to a powerlifters 30" non-steroid built thinghs. You will see the differnce is evedent in the powerlifter is much stronger.
Split training works- mostly for steroid users, they need this kind of recuperation because of the drugs basicly. Without steroids, there is no need for a split routine unless you’re trying to just ballance your physique by isolating muscles and building them to proportion. When in a bulking phase, split training is the worst.
The body was meant to function as a whole, not in pieces. It was meant to walk, not do leg extensions.
A typical powerlifter routine is better for bulking than a bodybuilders routine because they are doing more of a fullbody frequency than the bodybuilder. thats why most powerlifters are bigger than bodybuilders. they’re training for strength, but they have a better bulking program. The bodybuilder has the better shaping program by building his body to the proportions he or she wants it.
To each his own. We all have differnt goals. Mine is to push my phyisical limit, and to see how long.
[quote]Mr. Push Ups wrote:
A good bodyweight workout includes the following:
-something that cant be repeated
[/quote]
that should say-
-something that “CAN” be repeated
Ahhh, sounds good. At the moment I am doing Waterbury’s new high frequency routine, but once I am done that, I think I will experiment with some body weight routines. Thanks.
[quote]baretta wrote:
uberswank wrote:
snipeout wrote:
I just think that there is only so far that these exercises alone will take you.
I disagree. I have worked up to doing weighted one arm pushups. I also have been working on one arm pullups and can do a 3 x 3 with one finger assistance. There really is no limit to these exercises! How about trying a 2-finger handstand! This isn’t even mentioning gymnastics, such as the iron cross, one-arm planches, etc.
You have agreed with everything he has said thus far. Are you work out partners…and if so, how do you decide who gets to kill the jaguar with their bare hands?[/quote]
don’t know the guy, and i could care less if he disagreed with everything i said. All i know is that he is abviously an intense type of trainer and pushes himslef. just for that i respect him and could care less id he was a split training routine type of guy that did all dumbbell isolations. complete opposite of my thinking. but will get you to succeed much further than doing everything i would recommend like a fullbody bodyweight frequency.
Know this. Arnold didnt have the best training program IMO. It was very close though. The reason he was so successful was his intensity, drive, pain threshold, genetics obviously. but most of all was his mind. Arnold was smart enough use other peoples advice to his own training ideas. but of course it probably wouldn’t have mattered what Arnold did. Determination & Vision are more powerful than any training routine.
Me & this bodyweight supporter just share 1 common idea. Intensity.
No shoulder exercise has ever been more difficult to me than the one i do with an inverted push up on my fingertips. To further escalate that. I simply staic hold that position for as long as i can, use lock outs for rest, then go at it again. i could do more in 1 blistering set of that then most people will get out of 15 sets of high intensity delt training. Its all about “Pain”.
No need to post pictures, Mr. Push Ups.
We found your website.
http://www.realgangsta.de/14190.html
You look kind of skinny to me, but that’s just me.
You an OG.
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
snipeout wrote:
There is no doubt that chin ups and pull ups build a great back and biceps as well as dips and push ups build a great chest and triceps. I just think that there is only so far that these exercises alone will take you. You need more than just these exercises. I am not disagreeing that an elevated push up isnt a good exercise but so are DB incline presses with 130 pound DB’s. From reading your posts MRPU’s you try to hard to force your opinion on people around here, just relax, no need to have everyone of your threads shredded because people like to wind you up.
Methinks you are arguing with the wrong person…he doesn’t take well to criticism.
Which is a shame, because there are good points buried in the bullshit and Furey-esque rhetoric.[/quote]
wrong!
i like criticism, it brings about important things to discuss and different training ideas.
most people don’t agree to my ideas, so they insult me instead because they have no facts to back up thier point of view
i would much rather discuss these things and get something accomplished for all our sake.
most don’t like my point of view because it superseeds or contradicts everything they think they know. most poeple on my threads if you have noticed start out with an insult then the naysaying trolls show up. then its a flame war… it could have been an intersting topic to debate rather than trying to defned what you were told.
we’re all trying to learn, i’ve been doing this a long time and i’m still asking queations. people like Waterbury have the science, people like me have the experience. i just like to try to fit it all together.
i’ll agree with everthing Chad writes on frequency, and fullbody.
not to sure how strong he feels about bodyweight exercises like dips and pushups, squats, lunges…etc…but i bet he’s close to my opinion of them
the only thing i’m still working on thru experience and science is movement
for example: which would be superior, static holds as opposed to repping, or stretch holds and isometric holds, and endurance repping, ballistic repping…all the movement schemes.
would be nice if this site had more experienced individuals with open minds then begineers with bad attitudes and insults. Just like Dave Tate said. If your not gonna help with a better solution or fact or idea or whatever. Then you should probably not be insulting people and STFU! Help or take a hike. Nobody needs non problem solving opinions. I put my ideas out there on the table to be debated or criticized, not to be insulted for having them. I 've been doing this longer than most of the posters have been alive. I like critcs with experience. And people that ask, why?
This will benefit us all. Lets just debate these topics so we can all benefit from them.
Irony;
I have stated that push ups are superior to the bench press, and thats after bench pressing for 20 years. I wonder how many of the insulters have been benching for even half of my time. probably not many. Its funny that i have to now defend the superior exercise that i never liked. Push ups.
And have to state the downfall of my favorite exercise, the “bench press”, which by the way was the only exercise i did to start out when i was 8 years old. I could barely do it, but i managed to just get the bar up without any weights on it. I started out repping with just a 20lb bar. Now I can do reps with a bar with over 300lbs on it. Irony.
[quote]horny yoda wrote:
No need to post pictures, Mr. Push Ups.
We found your website.
You look kind of skinny to me, but that’s just me.
You an OG.[/quote]
LMAO
Is that eminems’s cousin?
he dont look like hes ever done a push up in his life. if i looked like that i would kill myself. he had more fat on him than musle, he didnt look skinny, he looked like shit!
boooo!
Find one of mark walberg and strech it out a little, that will be more realistic, i’m not that short as mark, or that skinny and fat as the other generation Y kid, hes 10 years younger than me.
[quote]baretta wrote:
You have agreed with everything he has said thus far. Are you work out partners…and if so, how do you decide who gets to kill the jaguar with their bare hands?[/quote]
Yes.
I can’t believe I read this.
What do we have on our hands, a delusional megalomaniac who ran out of meds?