Virgin Muscle or ?

Okay…looking to the Vets here…I have read various posts on the topic, but my results from my first two pins (1 in each quad ) were quite different wthe discomfort levels…Same spot on each; about 9" above the knee and 3.5-4" to the outside). Wondering if I did something wrong or just being a puss…

Gear: Super Test by GenLabs Pharma 250mg/ml
Each ml contains:
Testosterone Enanthate 200 mg
Testosterone Propionate 50mg
Safflower Oil
Benzyl Alcohol
Benzyl Benzoate

Dose: 1cc per every 4 days (is the plan)
Rig: 23G 1.5" 3ml syringe

Followed strict sterilization of bottle and injection site waiting for alcohol to dry etc…also did aspirate w no blood both times.

Day 1. 1st pin ever…Self injected right quad, easy cheesy, no pain for the 1st 12 hrs. then felt like a serious workout type soreness for two days (totally manageable w no ibuprofen or ice). Felt good and steady, aspirated, slow injection. Very confident. Pain on a scale of 1-10 (3) like a sore muscle…

4 Days later. 2nd injection ever. Left quad. (Same location as on the right leg) injection went well, no sting. aspirated, no blood but much more shaky than the first time w the other quad. I think I may have pushed the plunger a little faster looking back also…removed needle minimal blood like a drop or two…no oil though…massaged the area thinking I learned from the first time…went on my way expecting discomfort12hrs later…Not so fast…about 5 hours later uncomfortable…12 hours later I was thinking wtf?! So the next day was really painful…couldn’t hardly walk on it. Tried the ice pack and ibuprofen as it was slightly swollen more like a knot or bruise w/out the redness or bruise color. Same for day 2 but more pain and more immobility. After reading more posts added an antibiotic to my dosing w ibuprofen. With out the ibuprofen and ice I’m not sure I would have been too pleasant to deal w as weak as that sounds… Pain on a scale of 1-10 (7-8) when not iced or ibuprofened up…

Day 4. supposed to have had my 3rd shot today but holding off until I know I’m straight…contemplating the “glutes” after all the reading I’ve done. With all I have read I’m not sure i have enough mass in my shoulders or pecs to take 1ccof oil there…if its sore like my legs were I would have a hard time using my arm lol. I’m ok pushing through it if I know a) it will get better and b) I have not done something wrong…so that being said…

Should I wait?

Do you think it’s the gear? The process? Virgin tissue? Did I fuck up w a shaky hand and just poke around?shoot too fast? Too much oil? The BA? Can’t think of anything else…no thumbprint or whatever on the small lump/knot no edema or abscess from what I can tell…

Try to be thorough w info here… Go easy on me lol

Nube @ 38 yrs old

personally quad injections are painful for me so I don’t do them as of right now anyway, I just use gluteus, shoulders and just added the ventro glute which is a very good site because it’s easy to access and you don’t have to twist and bend in awkward positions and it’s painless, for me at least and it’s pretty hard to miss so I would look into pinning those sites as well. you’re going to want to rotate from quads anyway. Prop is also notoriously painful and can give quite the pip so keep that in mind as well.

as far as your other questions… it could be any one of those possibilities, it could be none, or anything in between really. You obviously don’t want to be moving the needle around too much, you don’t want to push the gear in super fast, you don’t have to go super slow either. Probably 30 seconds for every ml? just don’t jam it in there. What length of needle are you using and what gauge?

Should you wait? I think that’s up to you and how you feel, if you feel fine other than some discomfort I would try pinning the glutes and if that goes the same way I would probably toss that stuff out and try something else.

If your chest and delts can’t handle a ml of gear then your skinny ass should have continued running cycles of Steak and Potatoes.

As for the question. Virgin muscle sucks ass first time pinning no matter what. Add a fast ester like Prop and its amplified.Then take into account shaky hands, forcing oil in quickly, pinning a area like quads, and with no mention of heating gear up and your basically begging to not walk for a few days. Your not getting a infection so if nothing else we know the gear is clean. Which pretty much means only the above is really plausible.

[quote]Reed wrote:
If your chest and delts can’t handle a ml of gear then your skinny ass should have continued running cycles of Steak and Potatoes.

As for the question. Virgin muscle sucks ass first time pinning no matter what. Add a fast ester like Prop and its amplified.Then take into account shaky hands, forcing oil in quickly, pinning a area like quads, and with no mention of heating gear up and your basically begging to not walk for a few days. Your not getting a infection so if nothing else we know the gear is clean. Which pretty much means only the above is really plausible.[/quote]

Looking jacked there reed

[quote]BUDs wrote:

[quote]Reed wrote:
If your chest and delts can’t handle a ml of gear then your skinny ass should have continued running cycles of Steak and Potatoes.

As for the question. Virgin muscle sucks ass first time pinning no matter what. Add a fast ester like Prop and its amplified.Then take into account shaky hands, forcing oil in quickly, pinning a area like quads, and with no mention of heating gear up and your basically begging to not walk for a few days. Your not getting a infection so if nothing else we know the gear is clean. Which pretty much means only the above is really plausible.[/quote]

Looking jacked there reed[/quote]

Thanks man I think I finally figured this PhotoShop thing out buddy :wink: