That’s so musch bullshit!!! I say fuck the FDA. Those M’fers are the biggest bunch of hypocites. FDA and doctors get mad at companys like biotest because they make products like MD6 that are composed of substances that are either naturally occuring in your body or they come from the earth!!! for christ sakes all these doctors and scientist make the artificial medications that are scietifically made in labs and are 100 times worse on your body and have much worse side effects than MD6. I say FUCK em all. It all comes down to one thing I am with 100% Mr. Patterson no matter what. All these doctors and everyone involved in the whole Medication scene are jealous becuase of one f’in thing money!!!$$$$$ And there something better than prescribed medication.
Settle down, man. I realize you’re angry, but don’t you dare blame “doctors” as a whole for any of your problems. I’m completely on Biotest’s side on this issue, so your “FUCK em all” is way, way off base unneeded.
hey bro, i feel your pain, but i took the forum name “JC” before you. you can be JC#2 if you want
That’s right, everything that occurs naturally is better for you than things made in a lab. What a tremendous statement.
I’ll probably just end up using EAS Betalean with some yohimbe…Betalean already includes green tea. Then again, I don’t know how long that will be around either…
Well i live in New Zealand and neither MD6 or MAG-10 are aloud here …so… already SUCKS here
have they banned andro in New Zealand now? I always thought NZ was well ahead of most OECD countries in allowing stuff like that through - much less strict than Australia. Do NZ doctors still prescribe ephedrine for sporting purposes, or have they gone soft on that too?
Well, medical doctors do contribute greatly to this problem, in that many of them have no clue about pharmacology, but are looked at as experts in that area. Instead of passing on commenting on the issue, or referring inquisitors to an expert in the field, such as a pharmacologist or medicinal chemist, they go ahead and spout off their opinion, which is taken by the general public as " God’s truth." Unless they have a specialized training in the area of pharmacology, MD’s should stick to their profession’s parameters; diagnosing and treating disease.
You can get andro …if your Dr gives you a script for it…some gives u ephedrine 100tabs/3monts…
Altough I’m very sad about MD6 situation, because ephedrine IS a safe compound (stupid politicians), I don’t agree with your argument. Remember that things like opium and snake poison comes from the earth and are natural.
You two know next to nothing about physicians. Your ignorance is stunning. Poman, are you daft? How in the hell do you thing doctors treat diseases? Do they summon a Shaman and have him chant? No, you dink, they take MANY, MANY, MANY pharmacology classes. Every doctor is a specialist in pharmacology. Most doctors put pharamacists to shame. They not only understand the pharmacology, but they are MUCH better when it comes to practical utilization of the medications. If you don’t believe me, spend some time in a physician’s teaching rounds. You will see quite quickly just how much more knowledgable the average physician is. Not to mention, the fact that physicians have access to a ton of material via palm pilots or pharmacopias whenever they have a question. Where do you think 99% of medications come from? They are natural compounds that have been subjected to rigorous clinical trials. The FDA can be irritatingly slow, however, they use a standard format to test their new drugs that has been developed to protect the public. You go ahead and take your herbs, I will stick with medications that have been extensively studied and tested using randomized trials. By the way, unrefined natural substances can be far more dangerous than synthetic substances.
Sorry, PumpkinPie, but I have to disagree with you about a few things. I’ve taken ONE pharmacology class. That’s the standard for med schools right now. I’m certainly not an expert in pharmacology, though I would consider myself fairly well versed in the drugs I more commonly use. The problem is that the people who are supposed to be true “experts” i.e. pharmacologists, pharmacists, etc. generally have no practical, working knowledge of the drugs they dispense. More often than not, they know what is written in books about theoretical effects. I’m not some guy bashing these other guys (believe me, my sister is a pharmacist). It’s just the reality of the situation. I’m not really sure where I’m going with this now, so I’ll shut up. Just wanted to clear up a few things.