Velocity Diet Without HOT-ROX?

Hello, I am keen on going on the V-Diet and I have a number of questions. I know one is supposed to use HOT-ROX while on the diet to maintain muscle, but here in Singapore Yohimbine HCl is banned. (Spike is also banned for this reason, as is Power Drive because DMAE is banned.) Is there any way I can substitute it or am I doomed to losing muscle on the V-Diet? Is the version of HOT-ROX that does not contain Yohimbine still being sold? I don’t see it on the “Store” page.

While I’m not sure if you can get regular HOT-ROX anymore, Chris has said he reccommends not doing the diet without HOT-ROX

Thats terrible news. This makes me appreciate the Singaporean government even more.

I think an ephedrine caffiene stack could work as a substitute, using a product like Bronkaid or Primatene for the ephedrine. This is what I’m actually doing because of a medication I take daily cannot be mixed with certain ingedients in HRX.

Try Carbolin 19…Chris recommends it after the v-diet.

Carbolin 19 is one of the main reasons why I can’t take HRX which really sucks, but hopefully its legal for Erstwhile.

I can’t seem to find Colforsin 1,9-carbonate in Singapore’s list of banned or restricted substances, so Carbolin 19 should be okay… So am I right to say that I can substitute HRX with Carbolin 19?

I’m at the end of week 3 on the Velocity diet without HOT-ROX or any other thermogenic other than coffee. After 2 weeks, -10 Lbs, -3 inches on waist, strength increasing on lifts, and major food taste changes. I can’t wait for this week’s weigh in and measurements. I expect to have lost around 18-20 Lbs of fat after the 28 day period, and even more during the transition.

[quote]Erstwhile wrote:
I can’t seem to find Colforsin 1,9-carbonate in Singapore’s list of banned or restricted substances, so Carbolin 19 should be okay… So am I right to say that I can substitute HRX with Carbolin 19?[/quote]

I believe so but PM Chris Shugart and ask. He is very approachable and will offer better suggestions than anyone else can, as he is the V-Diet creator. Good luck to you.

Okay… Thanks for the advice!