Where does it fit in? From memory, Shugart recommended a Multi, do you just take 5g & forget the cals? Pretty sure it would only 20 cals anyway.
I dont see any reason not to throw in 1 serving a day on the V-Diet, may even be beneficial since you are definitely not going to be eating fruits and veggies for a month.
[quote]roweski wrote:
But wasn’t part of the V-Diet about not ingesting m/any veggies and fruits for a month to get your mind wanting them?
I’d be more inclined to lay off them in all honesty,and just stick with a multi. When i do the V-Diet, i want my body to biologically craving fruits and veggies by the end of the four weeks…[/quote]
I think the “reprogramming” comes from not eating like shit… and of course the super strict aspect of it.
I’d include Superfood for the health benefits.
[quote]roweski wrote:
But wasn’t part of the V-Diet about not ingesting m/any veggies and fruits for a month to get your mind wanting them?
I’d be more inclined to lay off them in all honesty,and just stick with a multi. When i do the V-Diet, i want my body to biologically craving fruits and veggies by the end of the four weeks…[/quote]
This brings up something I’ve been wondering about - why do we crave good food on the v-diet? Is it actually because we are lacking nutrition or because we just want something different? I’m on day 6 of the diet and all I want is a huge bowl of mixed veggies. Pizza would be good, too, but I think it would make me sick if I gorged on it right now. Healthy foods seem much more appealing.
Anyway, so can anyone clarify the psychological reprogramming for me? On the V-Diet, do we create strong cravings for healthy things because we actually need them, or do we eliminate cravings for bad foods by not being able to reinforce them for 4 weeks?
Going into this, I thought it was the latter, but now I’m thinking it’s the former. With that in mind, I would avoid Superfood on the V-Diet, or only take it with my weekly meal.
There’s absolutely no reason to avoid Superfood while on the V-Diet.
The notion that there is a good reason to do so is crazy!
You guys are getting things backwards.
[quote]HK24719 wrote:
There’s absolutely no reason to avoid Superfood while on the V-Diet.
The notion that there is a good reason to do so is crazy!
You guys are getting things backwards.[/quote]
You could be right - could you explain why?
Well, I just bought an extra tub of Superfood to make sure I’d have it for the V-Diet. Obviously I’m betting it’s a good idea.
The psychological changes from the diet are due to craving the taste and mouth feel of certain foods – not shortchanging your body on micronutrients.
[quote]HK24719 wrote:
The psychological changes from the diet are due to craving the taste and mouth feel of certain foods – not shortchanging your body on micronutrients.
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Gotcha - that makes sense. Thanks.
[quote]yerba wrote:
HK24719 wrote:
There’s absolutely no reason to avoid Superfood while on the V-Diet.
The notion that there is a good reason to do so is crazy!
You guys are getting things backwards.
You could be right - could you explain why?[/quote]
The fact that Superfood taste like tea, means you won’t exactly be “eating whole foods” and the cravings for proper foods will still be there. The amount of potential benefits that would come from this would - in my opinion - far outweigh those of a multivitamin.
Hell, I take a multi mainly for the reason my brand has acidophilus & COEQ10 in it.
Here’s the thing: we don’t know exactly why the taste/craving changes occur when on the V-Diet.
I don’t think someone is that deprived that the cravings for healthy foods are triggered. I’ve played with that idea, but if that were true then wouldn’t most junk food junkies and drive-thu queens be craving spinach and broccoli? And they just don’t. And most obese people are malnourished, but I don’t see them going nuts on the eggplant either. (And besides, the V-Diet shakes are nourishing.)
Perhaps it’s textural? Maybe it’s the all-liquid all week that does it?
When people have asked me if it’s okay to munch on celery or whatever during the strict phase of the V-Diet I’ve advised them not to. Why? Because 1) soon they’d be spreading cheese and peanut butter on the celery and 2) the stricter the better. But Biotest Superfood is just a spoonful of powder, not a crunchy meal or snack.
So, I see no harm at all in using Superfood during your weekly solid healthy meal, then daily in the Transition.
Now, what about during the week? I’d think it would be fine added to a morning shake or post-workout Surge. But that’s unproven at this point. Still, I think you’re safe from a craving/taste changes perspective. Definitely safe from a fat-loss perspective.
couldn’t it come from the fact that they are craving that one healthy solid meal throughout the diet? 25 days of salivating over the idea of broccoli and chicken or whatever sounds like it could rewire taste buds to me
Maybe a combo of factors:
-Desire to maintain the outcome of the diet
-A month of old fashioned clean eating might have the same effect, but not as easily noticed…the v-diet is so strict, with so little wiggle room, that you have no chance to reinforce the negative cravings, so they just go away for sure
-What Chris said about being grateful, after a month, to just get ANY solid food
Surely it’s not just one easy answer. My bet is it’s a combo of the three things I mentioned, but then, I haven’t tried it. Any word when the book’s coming out?
I think the taste changes come as a result of the fact that the healthy meal is now a REWARD at the end of 6 days of dieting. After several weeks of this reward system in place I think thats what changes your tastes. After a few weeks you just cant wait for that chicken and broccoli.
Right, a large component is definitely psychological. That’s a cool thing in my book.
[quote]Lonnie123 wrote:
I think the taste changes come as a result of the fact that the healthy meal is now a REWARD at the end of 6 days of dieting. After several weeks of this reward system in place I think thats what changes your tastes. After a few weeks you just cant wait for that chicken and broccoli.[/quote]
yeah exactly, basically what i meant
is there any nutritional information available for Superfood? It just says dietary values not established, how many calories would a 5g serving be? Even a low amount like 20 calories is worth noting for a v-dieter, as well as any extra carbs.
Also, any need for a multivitamin if you use Superfood? My understanding was that the multivitamin was even more essential because of the HRX, but does the Superfood do the same job or should we still be taking the vitamin? What about off the v-diet, if you aren’t taking any thermogenics and are eating more whole meals?
thanks
-Jeff
[quote]actionjeff wrote:
is there any nutritional information available for Superfood? It just says dietary values not established, how many calories would a 5g serving be? Even a low amount like 20 calories is worth noting for a v-dieter, as well as any extra carbs.
thanks
-Jeff[/quote]
I’d like to know as well.