Uvalde School Shooting

welp. This kinda kills Nick’s ‘they didn’t have gear’ argument. 1 shield. Exactly what the border patrol used.

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Obviously they have video. Let’s hope it’s made public.

Absolutely, if it’s as appears. I wasn’t arguing for anything but waiting to see what happened, though.

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“In a sort of ghastly simplicity we remove the organ and demand the function. We make men without chests and expect of them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honour and are shocked to find traitors in our midst. We castrate and bid the geldings be fruitful.”

C.S. Lewis

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Detained in that situation?

Yeah there would be some dead coward cops. If you don’t want to act, you better just get out of my way.

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It seems the problem here(police work…likely fire and military too…in general) is the people in supervisory roles are often less competent than those they supervise. They have often gotten where they have by kissing ass and not doing anything to rock the boat. Which works out okay when they stay in their offices, but not when they go out where they have little experience. Your typical police chief(to say nothing of a “school district” chief) likely has a bunch of degrees, spent a bare minimum time on patrol, then transferred to specialized units(which translates to: guys that don’t do anything that people think of police doing…unless you think of police belly crawling through the tall grass to catch a guy smoking weed or something…or an internal affairs/professional standards role), then started getting promotions. He may have received promotions primarily because he was incompetent where he was(maybe even a promotion to a role in which he supervised…no one) and there was no other way to quickly move him away from what he was screwing up.

Edit: Side Note: I can’t find an article that doesn’t use the word “storm” in verb form anymore. Can we as a society please forget that we learned that term existed following the near-overthrow of the American system of governance by a guy in a moose wig?

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Lol what a bunch of pigs

If those cops were real men, and I’m sure some of them have wives, they would have understood why he needed to go and save his wife. A man is supposed to save his family or die trying. Not only would they have let him go, but they wouldn’t have let him go alone. I don’t know how any of them can live with themselves.

The guy lost his wife. Cut him a break. No reason to start claiming he’s not a real man.

You realize that using a derogatory term to describe only the ‘bad cops’ also insults the ‘good cops’, right?

I assume you don’t mean that all cops are as shitty as these ones were in their worst moment…?

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I think he was saying they should’ve let him go into the school to do his manly/husbandly duties, not held him back from those duties.

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I think he knows that.

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Maybe, but he’s still alive so obviously didn’t do his manly duty.

Perhaps if he ate Taco Bell then he could’ve succeeded in that

Maybe. You are less likely to have the police physically restrain you if you’re covered in your own shit.

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Still alive, maybe because they didn’t let him go in. Not for lack of effort.

All I was saying was that @zecarlo wasn’t saying that guy wasn’t a real man.

Apparently there was a lack of effort, because they didn’t have to kill him. According to
@zecarlo’s standards

Because they took his gun away.

And? He still failed to save his family or die trying.

I’m sure you would be able to single handedly overpower several grown men. The problem with your lame argument is that his fellow cops weren’t the ones who shot his wife. And that was who he wanted to save her from.