Uvalde School Shooting

I think, first, we need to decide how big of an issue it is(on a society-wide level; not for the communities, kids, and parents effected, obviously). I think the most important thing is to harden the target by restricting access.

Neither do I. I think harden the target by restricting access, hire maybe some retired officers or something(someone who’s getting retirement money and can cheaply make up the rest of his former paycheck), and leave no doubt that someone entering the school is either safe or needs shooting(edit: or better be extremely compliant in proving that he’s safe).

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How many do you think are going in with no oxygen, or fire-retardant gear?

Is there an active shooter(s) shooting at the firemen?

He knows that was absurd.

The fire department is probably a good analogy.

When the fire truck(s) show up at a fire, knowing (being told) that people are inside that need saving, doesn’t the highest ranking fireman at the scene assesses the risk of entering the building before sending his crew into the burning building? Firemen are risking their lives, they are not sacrificing their lives.

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That’s what people are wanting, in this case. I’ve been thinking it but haven’t posted. They are wanting stacks of officer bodies. That’s it. No one else would be expected to risk life with little chance of success.

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Maybe they don’t compare to the U.S. but that is nothing to be proud of. It only goes to show how weak our politicians are, that is all.

Your DIY “American exceptionalism” is telling. Don’t do what other countries have found to work because we are Americans and we know better. Sad.

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Like i said before, this fella is all over the place and can’t make up his mind on any stance

“If you stand for nothing, you fall for anything”

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Apparently, teachers can already carry in some school districts in Wyoming and a few other states.

That’s been my impression as well. Dude is incapable of finding something or someone he actually supports, so he spends his days online yelling at the wind for being too windy.

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Or how strong our inalienable rights are. You might want to check how Australia treated its citizens during the lockdowns. Giving all the guns and power to the government is never a good idea. It is almost like that has been done many times in history before with disastrous results.

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Those cops didn’t even do that.

They just sacrificed the lives of kids instead.

Little chance of success? Like the border patrol officer who eventually killed the shooter?

When cops are criticizing the inaction of the Ulvade police you, who never was a cop or served in the military, might want to defer to their judgment.

What? It’s a fire. Cops are given guns for a reason. Firemen are given hoses for a reason. If they don’t know why they are given the tools they are given or why they train for the things they train for, then something is very wrong.

You mean the Tactical Unit that came in with equipment?

You mean, a key?

Shield. Whatever else. And did not work under the guy telling people not to go in.

If you think, “we didn’t try and stop the shooter because we were waiting for a shield,” is a defensible excuse for standing by while kids were being executed then you have no clue.

And the BORTAC team only had one shield.