Uvalde School Shooting

It really isn’t.

True. Like doing a karate kata once a year.

What types of events should law enforcement train for? If preparing for an active shooter in a school is essentially pointless, do any of their drills serve a purpose?

Actual experience with an active shooter is clearly more likely to have a favorable outcome.

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Not many, maybe 2 or 3 and not in quick succession.
The bans were not just semi autos, it was a complete re assessment of all gun laws, which had nothing whatsoever to do with mass shootings, or even general safety. Even low powered air rifles became classified as firearms, the laws went way beyond any reasonable safety measures. The laws were prepared and ready to go prior to the last mass shooting. Port Arthur massacre was just the excuse they used to bring in these laws. I couldn’t see it at the time, but with what I have seen and learnt over the last 25 years it clearly a preparation to bring in the New World Order. The governments are not changing gun laws for the protection of the citizens. They are doing it to disarm the population.

The same thing happened in NZ. Thankfully I doubt the majority of gun owners turned their semi auto’s in unlike most Australians. They got to learn from Australia’s experience.
The end result is organised crime and even Islamic terrorists still seem to have no problem getting their hands on unlicensed and prohibited weapons.

Over the same time, state police forces have become militarised despite our constitution prohibiting the States from having their own military.

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So…about the same as after. Thanks, my friend.

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Are you asking me? Going through a scenario every year or two is not preparation.

Of course. But since you can’t arrange for school shootings to happen to train the new guys, you’d have to set up some training, right?

@NickViar, I was replying to the above. It makes it sound as if it’s essentially pointless. I’m asking what’s the solution? Some form of preparation is needed, unless all cops were to have combat experience or something, which isn’t the case.

Well, they just did have an actual experience with an active shooter, so I bet they’re gonna crush it the next time.

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I’d like to see their post event lists:

  1. What we did right
  2. What we did wrong
  3. How could we have done better
  4. Who will be our new police chief?

I believe we’re talking about School District Police, in this case. Those are people that got into their job specifically to avoid doing anything.

The solution would be to equip patrol officers like anyone else going into combat. Also, just expect non-target casualties.

The biggest thing is probably hardening schools, and changing the culture of the educational system in the U.S.(if anyone really cares).

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Yes, I mean you can now if you have enough money.

That seems to fly in the face of the tenets of the left.

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I hate not to hit on this. You’re going to find very few people anywhere with experience using pistols to fight against someone with a rifle, who’s amongst numerous people that can’t be shot. While wearing armor that will do nothing with a rifle round.

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Let’s keep in mind that school shooters aren’t exactly special forces or something. They’re killing, executing, children at very close range. You can question how much training cops have but you have to think it’s more than some kid.

I wouldn’t bet money on this lol. At 18-20 I had infinitely more training with firearms than most cops.

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But these are Texas cops.

School cops. Barely real cops

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So, what should they do? If their training doesn’t amount to much (I’m not necessarily disagreeing with that) and it’s highly unlikely that anyone (military included) has been adequately prepared for the situation and the firearms involved, what should they do for now? Because currently schools aren’t full of teachers walking around carrying loaded guns, and I don’t see that becoming a widespread thing for a while, if ever.

Agreed.

Agreed.

Probably. But they’re still going into the same room where someone is obviously capable of executing others at “very close range.” And he doesn’t care whether he shoots kids. And he’s got some concealment(maybe cover).

Give a man with one limb all the training you want and his chances with anyone are still pretty poor.

When you choose to become a cop and end up getting hired as a cop, you are issued a gun. When you were in the academy, you were trained to use a gun. I think those are more than hints about what the job entails. If firemen showed up to a school that was on fire with kids inside, would we forgive them for not trying to save the kids because fire is dangerous?