Using a Vaporizer and Training?

Off Topic
161

[quote]SSC wrote:

[quote]Simon Adebisi wrote:
The comparison of driving high vs drunk is pretty stupid in my opinion.
Both leave you inebriated in some way.
You shouldn’t be driving if you have been smoking or drinking.
Smoking may make you meatballs feel like you are being safer by driving slower and “more carefully,” but you are just as dangerous to others because you are probably going slower than the speed limit and second guessing your decisions.
Both of which can end in a wreck.
Neither is safe.
One is not better than the other.
They can both end in a wreck.[/quote]

Lol, for the love of God, seriously please STFU if you’re still talking out of your ass (you ARE.)

And in case you “conveniently” missed it, please read what Prof X wrote.

You are an ignoramus trying to hold your own in a conversation you know nothing about, stop.[/quote]

Make me, anus.

162

renaldo7, thank you for backing up half of the FACTS that I posted up. I have to say that your post has been one of the best. I have seen several of joe rogans protests about the cannabis issue. He even states what I had said earlier: Cannabis DOES produce the strongest fibers, Cannabis IS and will ALWAYS be better than any man made pills by pharmas and is a threat to corps funding the U.S gov, Cannabis does NOT kill and Cannabis NEEDS to be medicinally legal.

I also wanted to talk about how Cannabis keeps the prisons packed, which also brings money to the state. But I felt as if I had ranted long enough.

But back to the original question. YES, vaporizing is better than smoking.

163

[quote]deventhedude wrote:
renaldo7, thank you for backing up half of the FACTS that I posted up. I have to say that your post has been one of the best. I have seen several of joe rogans protests about the cannabis issue. He even states what I had said earlier: Cannabis DOES produce the strongest fibers, Cannabis IS and will ALWAYS be better than any man made pills by pharmas and is a threat to corps funding the U.S gov, Cannabis does NOT kill and Cannabis NEEDS to be medicinally legal.

I also wanted to talk about how Cannabis keeps the prisons packed, which also brings money to the state. But I felt as if I had ranted long enough.

But back to the original question. YES, vaporizing is better than smoking. [/quote]

Keeping the prisons filled costs the state money, it does not bring money in.

164

keeping prisons full does to bring in money to the state. they get paid a huge amount for every convict that is in prison. trust me, I know. I have a state issued prison number. they get paid in the thousands for every person in prison.

165

honestly, big banana, im not so sure you really know what you are talking about. half of the prisons are ran by private corps. the state gets huge amounts of money from these guys.

166

there have been several documents on cnbc, discovery channel and several others. thats why there is such a big problem with over crowded prisons. why would the states want overcrowded prisons, if its coming outta their pocket to inprison these convicts. the state wants as many convicts locked up as possible, and then some. I did my time for the distribution on Cannabis. I had plenty of time to read and think. Not only do I know what Im talking about on the issue of Cannabis, I know what im talking about with the issue of overcrowded prisons being ran by private corps. If it was costing the state to have 1,000 more inmates over capacity, they would’ve had these guys back on the streets in no time. They want Cannabis to stay illegal, that way they can continue to lock up as many people as possible. Dont you think these judges know whats going on. Why would they be sending people away for possession, when its gonna come outta their pocket in the end. Thats totally false! In the end, the state makes money off of every convict in prison.

167

its a big circle. everybody involved in the law system wants to keep their job. thats why cannabis continues to stay illegal. thats why there are so many arrests dealing with this issue. judges, police, correctional officers, parole officers all have their best interest in keeping cannabis illegal because there are so many arrests dealing with this, and they all get paid one way or another. The state government is smart enough not to pay to keep a prison as packed as possible if its coming outta their own pocket. seriously dude, think about it.

168

[quote]deventhedude wrote:
honestly, big banana, im not so sure you really know what you are talking about. half of the prisons are ran by private corps. the state gets huge amounts of money from these guys. [/quote]

The state pays the private companies to run the prisons.

169

it all funnels back into their pockets in the end

170

why do you think private corps got into the prison business. to pay to keep people locked up? you think they actually wanna lose money outta their big bank accounts,yeah right. it costs millions to build these prisons. there is big money in the prison business, and the state gov makes big time money off of it in the end.

171

[quote]deventhedude wrote:
why do you think private corps got into the prison business. to pay to keep people locked up? you think they actually wanna lose money outta their big bank accounts,yeah right. it costs millions to build these prisons. there is big money in the prison business, and the state gov makes big time money off of it in the end. [/quote]

You have it 100% backwards. The state spends the money, the private prisons take the money.

The private companies don’t pay the state but there was a recent case of a judge taking money from the private prisons to lock up kids. The prisons would bill the government for each kid locked up.

172

@d1chet…why didn’t you quote Daniel Tosh?..

173

Just my 2 cents:
I’m 22 years old, have smoked pot daily for five years, and can’t say any major downsides. Only complaint is paying for it.

I work as a personal trainer and have been steadily employed since I was 16, so you can definitely maintain a job. Soon to graduate from college, so you can also do fine in school while smoking.

Training is only affected if smoking is done before. The workout wouldn’t be garbage but the intensity would lack. I consider myself pretty big/strong, so long-term effects on training seem to be absent. In fact, I can honestly say that it may have helped as I am naturally thin and could gorge on some food after a good training sesh and a few tokes. Those extra calories added up(in a good way).

Vaporizers are nice but different. It is a ‘cleaner’ high, seems to be a little more oriented to the head but again, it’s different. I’ve got one but don’t rely on it exclusively. I recommend the volcano as well but if you’re pinching pennies(as I was when I invested in one) Tha Buddha is also a good choice.

There is no question on driving. I passed a sobriety test with soaring colors while high. Maybe the cop knew and was nice, but I would have failed that shit were I drunk.

And the demotivation thing is true if you already don’t do shit. It’s like ‘roid rage’ with steroid use: If you’re a prick and you take steroids to get bigger and stronger, you’re gonna be a bigger, stronger prick.
If you’re a fucking dead beat and you smoke weed, you might just end being a little more content with being a fucking deadbeat. Nobody picks up a joint and gives up on life.

Lets face it: losers are losers, psychos are psychos, lifters are lifters, etc… I started lifting at fourteen, began smoking at 17, and am still lifting and doing well. Got a buddy who was a loser before smoking pot and is still a loser after smoking pot. And guess what? Were he to quit he would still be a loser.

It’s long but this and ‘you got curves’ are the only forum topics that I’ve read all the way through and some of the shit on here is just sad.

174

Bmacres, thank you for getting this forum back on track, as I have tried to do in a couple posts by stating that a vaporizer is a little better, at the end of my post. Its pretty much pointless to argue back and forth over the internet over a topic that isnt even about vaporizers being more healthy for you. As the original post was “using a vaporizer and training”.

anyways, I was wrong about everything that I stated on prisons. As well as my uncle in Atlanta who is a sheriff, aunt in Atlanta who is a parole officer, and cousin in california who is a criminal defense lawyer. but no. you are correct mr. banana. I, as well as those involved in the criminal field and those who have been through the prison system, are completely wrong. the government just likes to waste money by overcrowding the prisons with as many people as possible, which makes no sense what so ever. But hey, according to you it makes complete sense. wow

final and ending statement, vaporizers are a wiser choice to use. although like Bmacres stated, it does cost a pretty penny. peace and pot!

175

i rememeber back in my day when a dimebag used to cost a dime. you know how much condoms cost back in the day?

176

[quote]dshroy wrote:
i rememeber back in my day when a dimebag used to cost a dime. you know how much condoms cost back in the day?[/quote]

^ Winning.

If this thread is, in fact back on track, then I’ll go ahead and throw in my couple cents. I love the idea of vaporizers, and have ‘smoked’ from quite a few of them. I just don’t get as high on them - flat out. A lot of people want to say it’s “cleaner,” “more cerebral” and “purer.” That’s probably true, but if I have to smoke more of something then I’m just spinning my wheels financially, as far as I’m concerned.

Now, I may be relocating to an extremely pot-friendly area of the country in the next few months. If that’s the case, I’ll likely have a medicinal card. That will mean much better quality consistently, and for cheaper, and actual justification for me to get a real vape. Right now I’m rocking a small, portable little bugger. But I have smoked from Volcanos, Vapor Brothers, DaBuddah or whatever, etc.

That being said, I do feel a very “real” effect that the smoke has had on my lungs over the years and is the sole reason I’ll be switching. 23 years old, been smoking since probably 16, 18 very consistently.

177

[quote]deventhedude wrote:
Bmacres, thank you for getting this forum back on track, as I have tried to do in a couple posts by stating that a vaporizer is a little better, at the end of my post. Its pretty much pointless to argue back and forth over the internet over a topic that isnt even about vaporizers being more healthy for you. As the original post was “using a vaporizer and training”.

anyways, I was wrong about everything that I stated on prisons. As well as my uncle in Atlanta who is a sheriff, aunt in Atlanta who is a parole officer, and cousin in california who is a criminal defense lawyer. but no. you are correct mr. banana. I, as well as those involved in the criminal field and those who have been through the prison system, are completely wrong. the government just likes to waste money by overcrowding the prisons with as many people as possible, which makes no sense what so ever. But hey, according to you it makes complete sense. wow

final and ending statement, vaporizers are a wiser choice to use. although like Bmacres stated, it does cost a pretty penny. peace and pot!

[/quote]

You are making a poor case for marijuana use if you don’t understand the difference between money coming in or going out.

I am embarrassed for you.

178

[quote]SSC wrote:

[quote]dshroy wrote:
i rememeber back in my day when a dimebag used to cost a dime. you know how much condoms cost back in the day?[/quote]

^ Winning.

If this thread is, in fact back on track, then I’ll go ahead and throw in my couple cents. I love the idea of vaporizers, and have ‘smoked’ from quite a few of them. I just don’t get as high on them - flat out. A lot of people want to say it’s “cleaner,” “more cerebral” and “purer.” That’s probably true, but if I have to smoke more of something then I’m just spinning my wheels financially, as far as I’m concerned.

Now, I may be relocating to an extremely pot-friendly area of the country in the next few months. If that’s the case, I’ll likely have a medicinal card. That will mean much better quality consistently, and for cheaper, and actual justification for me to get a real vape. Right now I’m rocking a small, portable little bugger. But I have smoked from Volcanos, Vapor Brothers, DaBuddah or whatever, etc.

That being said, I do feel a very “real” effect that the smoke has had on my lungs over the years and is the sole reason I’ll be switching. 23 years old, been smoking since probably 16, 18 very consistently.[/quote]

Yeah I know what you mean. For me though, I don’t necessarily feel like I get less high with a vape but just one that’s different. Given that I am much more used to smoking weed I’ll usually do some vape and then follow with a bong or pipe. And yeah if you’re moving to a pot-friendly area in which you can get a card you should definitely invest in a decent vape. Club weed is WAY too nice.

And you say you’ve noticed changes in your lung capacity? That’s one thing I really liked about smoking weed in that it didn’t affect my lung capacity. When I first started smoking weed that was my main concern but after two physicals over the years and consistent training I seem to be doing fine. I especially noticed a contrast between smoking cigarettes and smoking weed. I smoked cigarettes from 18 to about midway through my nineteenth year(yes, I know how fucking bad it is; it was a phase) and noticed horrendous changes to my breathing and lung capacity. Immediate changes when I managed to quit.

For anyone interested I highly recommend ‘The Pot Book’, edited by Julie Holland. VERY good complete overview of cannabis and its impact in medicine, science, politics, etc. with contributions from many experts in the field. Good read and if I finish it in time I may be able to contribute to Deventheman and Mr. banana’s debate, though I highly doubt I’ll sway either of them. Come on guys, let’s roll a jay and say “hey”, hey?

179

[quote]Bmacres wrote:

For anyone interested I highly recommend ‘The Pot Book’, edited by Julie Holland. VERY good complete overview of cannabis and its impact in medicine, science, politics, etc. with contributions from many experts in the field. Good read and if I finish it in time I may be able to contribute to Deventheman and Mr. banana’s debate, though I highly doubt I’ll sway either of them. Come on guys, let’s roll a jay and say “hey”, hey?

[/quote]
I was gonna buy the book but i used the money for more weed.

180

[quote]dshroy wrote:

[quote]Bmacres wrote:

For anyone interested I highly recommend ‘The Pot Book’, edited by Julie Holland. VERY good complete overview of cannabis and its impact in medicine, science, politics, etc. with contributions from many experts in the field. Good read and if I finish it in time I may be able to contribute to Deventheman and Mr. banana’s debate, though I highly doubt I’ll sway either of them. Come on guys, let’s roll a jay and say “hey”, hey?

[/quote]
I was gonna buy the book but i used the money for more weed.[/quote]

I get it. My copy was a gift.