Using a Vaporizer and Training?

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[quote]Simon Adebisi wrote:
Weed affects testosterone.
If you’re that serious about this shit, that should be enough to make a decision.
Although, I used to smoke like crazy and it did not have any affect on my libido or sexual performance.
So I dunno what all that shit is about.
In fact, I think it enhanced it.[/quote]

Doesn’t lower it if you aren’t natural :wink:

I say pin a gram of test a week and get baked. Then it actually helps, me anyway. Smoking is the only way I can eat enough to keep my weight up.
haha

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Some guy told me there are more cancer causing chemicals in weed than in cigarette smoke. People need to stop bagging on a substance they have never tried or done a in depth research in. Such as non steroid users telling everyone steroids will kill you, do this, do that, but in the end never tried it.

Definitaly helps me with getting deep sleeps and anxiety control.

Canada is in talks about legalizing it and taxing it. I think they’ve done this already but we’ll see. I believe 60% of Canadians are in favour of it (smaple size not representing the entire population)…

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I know this thread is about marijuana’s effect (if any) on training, but it doesn’t seem like too many posters have mentioned other unrelated potentially negative effects. I don’t think it’s fair to let people think that its high comes completely with no strings attached. There are plenty of well studied (I know you guys love that science stuff) negative effects it can have on ones brain, especially on someone who’s brain has not reached full maturity yet, so we’re talking something like 25 years of age. I only skimmed the thread, but has this been mentioned?

My wife is in a cognitive neuroscience doctorate program right now, and I’ve spent some time (at the gun range and bars, not necessarily in that order) picking her professor’s brains on stuff like this. There is a total lack of consensus on degrees of effect, but all seem to agree that there are negative and positive side effects, more chronic negative effects and more acute positive effects. Many of the profs. are very serious about not condoning those under mid-20’s to smoke it.

I just think people need to be honest with themselves and not try and justify something because they like getting high. I used to smoke it when I was pretty young, 14 or so. I can’t stand it now, but when you consider that every culture and civilization has employed varying methods of intoxication throughout the years of mankind’s existence (aside from the Inuits who lacked plentiful flora and a means to carry out the fermentation process) it seems a bit naive to take a strong stance against informed intoxication.

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Two minutes with google scholar will reveal a few things…

a) In some individuals, testosterone does tend to be lower in users, BUT the levels still tend to fall within the normal range

b) In some individuals, cortisol levels go UP when using marijuana

c) “[marijuana]…cause an athlete to reach maximal heart rate at a lower than normal intensity of exercise, resulting in a decreased maximal work capacity” - Schatzberg AF, Nemeroff CB (eds): The American Psychiatric Press Textbook of Psychopharmacology, ed 1. Washington DC, American Psychiatric Press, 1995

d) “Chronic marijuana use has been associated with decreased motivation to perform and to give a maximal effort as well as with decreased circulating testosterone levels (8)” - Schatzberg AF, Nemeroff CB (eds): The American Psychiatric Press Textbook of Psychopharmacology, ed 1. Washington DC, American Psychiatric Press, 1995

e) Pulmonary problems are far more common in smokers of both individually marijuana & tobacco compared to nonsmokers to a statistically significant degree → Tashkin DP, Coulson AH, Clark VA, Simmons M, Bourque LB, Duann S, Spivey GH, Gong H
The American Review of Respiratory Disease [1987, 135(1):209-16]

f) TL;DR Smoking marijuana makes the ‘gas diffusing’ function of the lung less efficient → Marijuana smoking as cause of reduction in single-breath carbon monoxide diffusing capacity - The American Journal of Medicine

g) Vaporization is a safe delivery method of THC → http://www.nature.com/clpt/journal/v82/n5/abs/6100200a.html

h) Vaporizing is safer, again → http://www.biomedcentral.com/content/pdf/1477-7517-4-11.pdf

Etc.

Basically, it’s safer to vape.

I don’t smoke, through any form of delivery… because I have better shit to do