“We hypothesized that there would be a positive association between marijuana use and lung cancer, and that the association would be more positive with heavier use,” he said. “What we found instead was no association at all, and even a suggestion of some protective effect.”
If anyone else finds a more definitive claim than 'a suggestion of some protective effect" please post it - I’ll gladly stand corrected.
I’m gonna keep looking around, [towelie voice] but maybe I should get a little high first…[/towelie voice] LOL
So for those of you that get a weed ‘hangover’, more of a hazy foggy feeling the morning after a heavy amount of smoking before bed, I’ve found that nootropics instantly rid it. Aniracetam, vinpocetine, DMAE at very typical doses works well IMO.
I have no idea how or if it’s anything more than placebo but it works for me. I didnt discover this because I thoguht it would work, I just happened to notice that the morning fog would disappear on mornings I popped some nootropics.
"Always that same LSD story, you’ve all seen it. ‘Young man on acid, thought he could fly, jumped out of a building. What a tragedy.’ What a dick! Fuck him, he?s an idiot. If he thought he could fly, why didn?t he take off on the ground first? Check it out. You don?t see ducks lined up to catch elevators to fly south?they fly from the ground, ya moron, quit ruining it for everybody. He?s a moron, he?s dead?good, we lost a moron, fuckin? celebrate.
Wow, I just felt the world get lighter. We lost a moron! I don?t mean to sound cold, or cruel, or vicious, but I am, so that?s the way it comes out. Professional help is being sought. How about a positive LSD story? Wouldn’t that be news-worthy, just the once? To base your decision on information rather than scare tactics and superstition and lies? I think it would be news-worthy. ‘Today, a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration. That we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively. There is no such thing as death, life is only a dream and we’re the imagination of ourselves’ . . . ‘Here’s Tom with the weather.’"
-Bill Hicks
Basically you can apply this quote to any other drug that is illegal and get the same result.
Nobody ever talks about the good aspects of these useful plants and chemicals.
Only the possible bad aspects.
Many of which are complete lies and fabrications.
Alcohol is the most abused and detrimental drug on this planet.
Fuck outta’ here with this “weed is dangerous” bullshit.
Try reading some shit about some other shit before you start talking shit about shit you heard from shitheads who don’t know shit.
I’d agree with you. But even if legalized it will still be effectively illegal for many due to employment drug screenings .
I basically agree with you but I don’t like weed. 1. It doesn’t agree with me. I smoked three times and got wickedly paranoid. Very nasty , looking for a fight kind of mean. It doesn’t agree with me. If you see me drinking I’m basically a happy , friendly guy. No mean drunk here.
A few hits from a joint is worse than any drink regardless of amount
I’ve seem people who were moody, depressed lazy ass types get worse and screw themselves up with smoking. Loss of employment , motivation etc. Weed wasn’t all of it but it had a very negative impact on them .
quote]tom63 wrote:
I’ve said many times if you like a drug, you probably shouldn’t do it. When you often star you don’t see it’s pull on you. Then it’s to late and now you have problems.
Is it bad for everyone, no. But there are people who don’t have the brains or the nature do do it responsibly.[/quote]
You see, the same could be said about alcohol…but for some reason, it is a social taboo to make the exact same statement during Happy Hour
There are always people who don’t have the brains to or the nature to do things responsibly. The same goes for driving a car, drinking alcohol, or several other things that humans do everyday that are high risk.[/quote]
A few hits from a joint is worse than any drink regardless of amount
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Don’t agree with this at all. If I get in a car after downing a bottle of vodka and it’ll likely be my last ride. But if I ever drive while high, I get so paranoid I’m sure to drive with the utmost care.
weed shows you who you are. If you’re the type to easily become lazy and not work at all, it wasn’t just the weed. Like others have said, I know plenty of driven people who are doing great things in their life, and they smoke. After all, you’re going to tell me that willy nelson is a lazy ass? That guy has come out with over 80 albums. It just doesn’t make sense for it to be illegal.
As far as the anxiety stuff: my experience has been that paranoia does increase when I’m high. I prefer to be with a few close friends hanging out after a long day, rather than smoke and go out to the bar or public places.
A few hits from a joint is worse than any drink regardless of amount
[/quote]
Don’t agree with this at all. If I get in a car after downing a bottle of vodka and it’ll likely be my last ride. But if I ever drive while high, I get so paranoid I’m sure to drive with the utmost care.[/quote]
Yea like stopped at the stop sign waiting for it to turn green?
[quote]rrjc5488 wrote:
Does anyone who didn’t put me on ignore have a link to the ‘marijuana lowers the risk of lung cancer’ claim?
I skimmed through a few previous weed threads and couldn’t find a link.
I’ve found a few studies that say THC decreases the size of lung cancer tumors, but they haven’t specified the administration method of the THC (except one I found injected THC).
Now, understand that all of this means further research is needed to see the real benefits here…research that won’t happen with weed being as hard to study without bias and without restricted oversight from law or government officials.
However, it is very clear that it is not the menace people have made it out to be.
A few hits from a joint is worse than any drink regardless of amount
[/quote]
Don’t agree with this at all. If I get in a car after downing a bottle of vodka and it’ll likely be my last ride. But if I ever drive while high, I get so paranoid I’m sure to drive with the utmost care.[/quote]
Yea like stopped at the stop sign waiting for it to turn green?[/quote]
LOL, that’s never happened to me, I’m too focused on driving to let my mind wander elsewhere. I get pretty nervous.
A few hits from a joint is worse than any drink regardless of amount
[/quote]
Worse in what way? Please give me an example.
If a guy takes 2 hits from a pipe, do you think he’s a riskier driver than a guy that’s had 12 beers and shots throughout the night?
Who’s more likely to start a fight all other things being equal. A guy who smoked a joint or a guy who has been drinking whiskey all night?
Who’s more likely to run his mouth and ruin relationships and friends ships? The guy who took a few hits or the one that’s been drinking all day and finally decideds to “speak his mind?”
Who’s more likely to pass out in the street and get robbed, run over or freeze to death?
A few hits from a joint is worse than any drink regardless of amount
[/quote]
Worse in what way? Please give me an example.
If a guy takes 2 hits from a pipe, do you think he’s a riskier driver than a guy that’s had 12 beers and shots throughout the night?
Who’s more likely to start a fight all other things being equal. A guy who smoked a joint or a guy who has been drinking whiskey all night?
Who’s more likely to run his mouth and ruin relationships and friends ships? The guy who took a few hits or the one that’s been drinking all day and finally decideds to “speak his mind?”
Who’s more likely to pass out in the street and get robbed, run over or freeze to death?
I’d love to hear your answer to these.
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Sam he was referring to himself that he gets this effect not that other people do.
A few hits from a joint is worse than any drink regardless of amount
[/quote]
Worse in what way? Please give me an example.
If a guy takes 2 hits from a pipe, do you think he’s a riskier driver than a guy that’s had 12 beers and shots throughout the night?
Who’s more likely to start a fight all other things being equal. A guy who smoked a joint or a guy who has been drinking whiskey all night?
Who’s more likely to run his mouth and ruin relationships and friends ships? The guy who took a few hits or the one that’s been drinking all day and finally decideds to “speak his mind?”
Who’s more likely to pass out in the street and get robbed, run over or freeze to death?
I’d love to hear your answer to these.
[/quote]
Sam he was referring to himself that he gets this effect not that other people do. [/quote]
I thought he was speaking in general. The post he made that in got all jumbled with the quotes so I couldn’t see that he expanded on that.
A few hits from a joint is worse than any drink regardless of amount
[/quote]
Worse in what way? Please give me an example.
If a guy takes 2 hits from a pipe, do you think he’s a riskier driver than a guy that’s had 12 beers and shots throughout the night?
Who’s more likely to start a fight all other things being equal. A guy who smoked a joint or a guy who has been drinking whiskey all night?
Who’s more likely to run his mouth and ruin relationships and friends ships? The guy who took a few hits or the one that’s been drinking all day and finally decideds to “speak his mind?”
Who’s more likely to pass out in the street and get robbed, run over or freeze to death?
I’d love to hear your answer to these.
[/quote]
Sam he was referring to himself that he gets this effect not that other people do. [/quote]
I thought he was speaking in general. The post he made that in got all jumbled with the quotes so I couldn’t see that he expanded on that.[/quote]
Yea I had to reread it a few times, but tom was saying that for himself he gets so paranoid its worse and exact opposite of what he is like if he has a few drinks.
A few hits from a joint is worse than any drink regardless of amount
[/quote]
Worse in what way? Please give me an example.
If a guy takes 2 hits from a pipe, do you think he’s a riskier driver than a guy that’s had 12 beers and shots throughout the night?
Who’s more likely to start a fight all other things being equal. A guy who smoked a joint or a guy who has been drinking whiskey all night?
Who’s more likely to run his mouth and ruin relationships and friends ships? The guy who took a few hits or the one that’s been drinking all day and finally decideds to “speak his mind?”
Who’s more likely to pass out in the street and get robbed, run over or freeze to death?
I’d love to hear your answer to these.
[/quote]
Sam he was referring to himself that he gets this effect not that other people do. [/quote]
I thought he was speaking in general. The post he made that in got all jumbled with the quotes so I couldn’t see that he expanded on that.[/quote]
Yea I had to reread it a few times, but tom was saying that for himself he gets so paranoid its worse and exact opposite of what he is like if he has a few drinks. [/quote]
That makes sense. I wrote earlier that some people I’ve smoked with got very paranoid and I can 100% understand why they couldn’t see the point in smoking. It’s happened to me once and it’s a shitty feeling.
Tom, I apologize if I misinterpreted what you were saying.
A few hits from a joint is worse than any drink regardless of amount
[/quote]
Worse in what way? Please give me an example.
If a guy takes 2 hits from a pipe, do you think he’s a riskier driver than a guy that’s had 12 beers and shots throughout the night?
Who’s more likely to start a fight all other things being equal. A guy who smoked a joint or a guy who has been drinking whiskey all night?
Who’s more likely to run his mouth and ruin relationships and friends ships? The guy who took a few hits or the one that’s been drinking all day and finally decideds to “speak his mind?”
Who’s more likely to pass out in the street and get robbed, run over or freeze to death?
I’d love to hear your answer to these.
[/quote]
Sam he was referring to himself that he gets this effect not that other people do. [/quote]
I thought he was speaking in general. The post he made that in got all jumbled with the quotes so I couldn’t see that he expanded on that.[/quote]
Yea I had to reread it a few times, but tom was saying that for himself he gets so paranoid its worse and exact opposite of what he is like if he has a few drinks. [/quote]
[quote]rrjc5488 wrote:
Does anyone who didn’t put me on ignore have a link to the ‘marijuana lowers the risk of lung cancer’ claim?
I skimmed through a few previous weed threads and couldn’t find a link.
I’ve found a few studies that say THC decreases the size of lung cancer tumors, but they haven’t specified the administration method of the THC (except one I found injected THC).
Now, understand that all of this means further research is needed to see the real benefits here…research that won’t happen with weed being as hard to study without bias and without restricted oversight from law or government officials.
However, it is very clear that it is not the menace people have made it out to be.
[/quote]
I tried to train in the past after weed but no good for me, I lose all internal aggression and I’m quite happy to be sedentary. I think people are the problem not drugs, I agree some drugs are totally devastating but if left alone or not even consumed to excess there are no problems. Weed is villified far too much and as a result this uneducated antidrugs approach from the public spreads and spreads BUT it’s ok to binge on alcohol. FACT did you know that there are Endocannabinoids and their receptors in the human body just like we have Endorphins and their receptors BUT we have no such receptors for alcohol oh no. What do you think this means to us and the plants that grow in nature?
[quote]rrjc5488 wrote:
Does anyone who didn’t put me on ignore have a link to the ‘marijuana lowers the risk of lung cancer’ claim?
I skimmed through a few previous weed threads and couldn’t find a link.
I’ve found a few studies that say THC decreases the size of lung cancer tumors, but they haven’t specified the administration method of the THC (except one I found injected THC).
Now, understand that all of this means further research is needed to see the real benefits here…research that won’t happen with weed being as hard to study without bias and without restricted oversight from law or government officials.
However, it is very clear that it is not the menace people have made it out to be.
[/quote]
I tried to train in the past after weed but no good for me, I lose all internal aggression and I’m quite happy to be sedentary. I think people are the problem not drugs, I agree some drugs are totally devastating but if left alone or not even consumed to excess there are no problems. Weed is villified far too much and as a result this uneducated antidrugs approach from the public spreads and spreads BUT it’s ok to binge on alcohol. FACT did you know that there are Endocannabinoids and their receptors in the human body just like we have Endorphins and their receptors BUT we have no such receptors for alcohol oh no. What do you think this means to us and the plants that grow in nature? [/quote]
Agreed. They are finding that this plant actually works with our bodies in that sense and are just now finding the following:
Bottom line, a real scientific mind would see some real potential here to find out quite a bit and even help ourselves…but it can’t happen because old people are afraid of change…so society must wait a few hundred years until all of the scared people die off.
