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[quote]Edevus wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Edevus wrote:
Some years ago I had a boss who had abused of weed in his youth and he was very slow thinking and talking. It was like if he had lag or something. Having a conversation with him was very annoying, since sentences and topics would overlap. He also had very bad short term memory, to the point of forgetting his friend in a gas station or what he had commanded to do thirty seconds ago.

I guess this only happens if you really abuse it.

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No, you have people with mental disorders all over the country. Without his full medical history, it is quite a leap to jump to that conclusion.[/quote]

Maybe. But everybody who knew him well commented on this. He was a very cool guy, but very annoying to deal with, as you can imagine.

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Dude, the average lay person is completely clueless about this shit…so I would not rely on anything but a real medical diagnosis.

Weed isn’t even documented as having an effect like that. That sounds like brain damage.

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[quote]Edevus wrote:
Some years ago I had a boss who had abused of weed in his youth and he was very slow thinking and talking. It was like if he had lag or something. Having a conversation with him was very annoying, since sentences and topics would overlap. He also had very bad short term memory, to the point of forgetting his friend in a gas station or what he had commanded to do thirty seconds ago.

I guess this only happens if you really abuse it.

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I have seen this happen, as well.

I’m also wondering if centrophenoxine would drastically show improvement in brain function in someone like this.

I don’t know much about centro, BBB’s the guy to ask about that, but it’s talked about in the brain function booster thread about having neuroprotective properties among other things.

BBB, any thoughts on this?

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Edevus wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Edevus wrote:
Some years ago I had a boss who had abused of weed in his youth and he was very slow thinking and talking. It was like if he had lag or something. Having a conversation with him was very annoying, since sentences and topics would overlap. He also had very bad short term memory, to the point of forgetting his friend in a gas station or what he had commanded to do thirty seconds ago.

I guess this only happens if you really abuse it.

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No, you have people with mental disorders all over the country. Without his full medical history, it is quite a leap to jump to that conclusion.[/quote]

Maybe. But everybody who knew him well commented on this. He was a very cool guy, but very annoying to deal with, as you can imagine.

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Dude, the average lay person is completely clueless about this shit…so I would not rely on anything but a real medical diagnosis.

Weed isn’t even documented as having an effect like that. That sounds like brain damage.[/quote]

Wait, wait, wait.

WHY and the fuck would the put a brain damaged slow witted dude as a manager? Was this a government job?

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[quote]Edevus wrote:

sam_sneed, I kinda support the feeling of not seeing the point of it. I have never smoked (anything at all) and I never will. I’m also tee-total. I really don’t see the point of getting drunk, but I won’t argue against it neither. I just don’t associate with people who do either of both. [/quote]

Fair enough, but unless you know how it feels to be on it I wouldn’t expect you to get the point. Let me help you out. It feels good and it doesn’t leave me with any real lasting side effects. Movies, music and more enjoyable and food tastes 100x better.

That’s just some of the pro’s personally for me. So yeah, I wouldn’t just smoke for the sake of smoking. There is a point to it.

Some people tried it and hated it. It made them paranoid. I can respect their negative opinions of it over someone who’s never tried it.

I’m talking about smoking in moderation by the way. Not being high all day, although I know a few people who actually function this way and actually have careers. That’s not for me.

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[quote]rrjc5488 wrote:

Maybe your other personality did?

:P[/quote]

Haha. Now wouldn’t that be interesting.

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[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Edevus wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Edevus wrote:
Some years ago I had a boss who had abused of weed in his youth and he was very slow thinking and talking. It was like if he had lag or something. Having a conversation with him was very annoying, since sentences and topics would overlap. He also had very bad short term memory, to the point of forgetting his friend in a gas station or what he had commanded to do thirty seconds ago.

I guess this only happens if you really abuse it.

[/quote]

No, you have people with mental disorders all over the country. Without his full medical history, it is quite a leap to jump to that conclusion.[/quote]

Maybe. But everybody who knew him well commented on this. He was a very cool guy, but very annoying to deal with, as you can imagine.

[/quote]

Dude, the average lay person is completely clueless about this shit…so I would not rely on anything but a real medical diagnosis.

Weed isn’t even documented as having an effect like that. That sounds like brain damage.[/quote]

Wait, wait, wait.

WHY and the fuck would the put a brain damaged slow witted dude as a manager? Was this a government job? [/quote]

Not public job. It was in a cinema. He was very cool guy and he was very good at “selling himself”. I think that once you start talking with him, you get hypnotized or something. Truth it, it was very chaotic and some people just ignored his orders. Often he wouldn’t remember anyways.

Once we had some internet connection issues and he tried to fix it himself. So he went to some room with a big panel with electronical stuff, and, I have no idea how, he managed to rip off from the wall the entire panel (he was quite strong) and he still managed to call me by radio to ask for help. The conversation was something like :
“Hello. Are…you…busy…right now? I may…have…some issues here”.
“Oh, what’s wrong, where are you?”
“Well, the thing is…you know this room…by the bathrooms…in the main area? The one it’s always closed…by the right area? Well…now it’s left for you, but right for me…or, no, wait…well, I’m there.”
“Ok, I’m coming, but right or left?”
“Well, that depends, you know…where are you now?”
“I’m in client service right now, I’m on my way”
“Good, because, you see…I have this very heavy thing over me and, well, I don’t know how long I can hold it”
“Ok, but left or right?”
“Well, good question…because you know…where are you now?”
“Almost at the right side bathrooms”
“No…no…no, go to left side bathrooms”.

And so on. I don’t think I will ever forget about it. I eventually found him and he was somewhat trapped by the panel, holding the radio over the panel. He just had to kneel down and leave the panel in the floor, but it seems it didn’t cross his mind. And that thing was VERY heavy. I really don’t know what he did, how, nothing. And I guess that asking it would have been too much.

Ah, those were fun times…

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[quote]sam_sneed wrote:

[quote]Edevus wrote:

sam_sneed, I kinda support the feeling of not seeing the point of it. I have never smoked (anything at all) and I never will. I’m also tee-total. I really don’t see the point of getting drunk, but I won’t argue against it neither. I just don’t associate with people who do either of both. [/quote]

Fair enough, but unless you know how it feels to be on it I wouldn’t expect you to get the point. Let me help you out. It feels good and it doesn’t leave me with any real lasting side effects. Movies, music and more enjoyable and food tastes 100x better.

That’s just some of the pro’s personally for me. So yeah, I wouldn’t just smoke for the sake of smoking. There is a point to it.

Some people tried it and hated it. It made them paranoid. I can respect their negative opinions of it over someone who’s never tried it.

I’m talking about smoking in moderation by the way. Not being high all day, although I know a few people who actually function this way and actually have careers. That’s not for me.[/quote]

I kinda compare it to drinking and being at the tipsy point (I haven’t always been tee total).
I kinda can say already that I wouldn’t like it, mostly because I already have a very negative view on it. But this kinda reminds me of conversations I’ve had with people around here (#5 country in the world on relative drinking, go figure). “How can you enjoy watching a football game without opening a can of beer” or “how can you enjoy talking to strangers without having drank some”.

Well…it seems I’m a weirdo, because I can do that being totally sober.

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^ So there really was a Forrest Gump in real life. :slight_smile:

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[quote]DJHT wrote:
^ So there really was a Forrest Gump in real life. :slight_smile: [/quote]

He was not stupid, just, slow. Really, it was like if he had a 2-3 seconds lag for everything.
But again, he was a cool guy and I felt bad when he got fired…although it was probably for the best.

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[quote]Edevus wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:
^ So there really was a Forrest Gump in real life. :slight_smile: [/quote]

He was not stupid, just, slow. Really, it was like if he had a 2-3 seconds lag for everything.
But again, he was a cool guy and I felt bad when he got fired…although it was probably for the best.[/quote]

Stupid is as stupid does.

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[quote]Edevus wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Edevus wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Edevus wrote:
Some years ago I had a boss who had abused of weed in his youth and he was very slow thinking and talking. It was like if he had lag or something. Having a conversation with him was very annoying, since sentences and topics would overlap. He also had very bad short term memory, to the point of forgetting his friend in a gas station or what he had commanded to do thirty seconds ago.

I guess this only happens if you really abuse it.

[/quote]

No, you have people with mental disorders all over the country. Without his full medical history, it is quite a leap to jump to that conclusion.[/quote]

Maybe. But everybody who knew him well commented on this. He was a very cool guy, but very annoying to deal with, as you can imagine.

[/quote]

Dude, the average lay person is completely clueless about this shit…so I would not rely on anything but a real medical diagnosis.

Weed isn’t even documented as having an effect like that. That sounds like brain damage.[/quote]

Wait, wait, wait.

WHY and the fuck would the put a brain damaged slow witted dude as a manager? Was this a government job? [/quote]

Not public job. It was in a cinema. He was very cool guy and he was very good at “selling himself”. I think that once you start talking with him, you get hypnotized or something. Truth it, it was very chaotic and some people just ignored his orders. Often he wouldn’t remember anyways.

Once we had some internet connection issues and he tried to fix it himself. So he went to some room with a big panel with electronical stuff, and, I have no idea how, he managed to rip off from the wall the entire panel (he was quite strong) and he still managed to call me by radio to ask for help. The conversation was something like :
“Hello. Are…you…busy…right now? I may…have…some issues here”.
“Oh, what’s wrong, where are you?”
“Well, the thing is…you know this room…by the bathrooms…in the main area? The one it’s always closed…by the right area? Well…now it’s left for you, but right for me…or, no, wait…well, I’m there.”
“Ok, I’m coming, but right or left?”
“Well, that depends, you know…where are you now?”
“I’m in client service right now, I’m on my way”
“Good, because, you see…I have this very heavy thing over me and, well, I don’t know how long I can hold it”
“Ok, but left or right?”
“Well, good question…because you know…where are you now?”
“Almost at the right side bathrooms”
“No…no…no, go to left side bathrooms”.

And so on. I don’t think I will ever forget about it. I eventually found him and he was somewhat trapped by the panel, holding the radio over the panel. He just had to kneel down and leave the panel in the floor, but it seems it didn’t cross his mind. And that thing was VERY heavy. I really don’t know what he did, how, nothing. And I guess that asking it would have been too much.

Ah, those were fun times…

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LOL.

Yeah, blaming weed for that is a little off. He sounds like his issues are from more deep seated sources. Either way, most of the people I knew who smoked don’t now. However, I did know people with very advanced careers who did and much of what some of you are describing sounds like people who would have troubles in life no matter what.

I mean, I had roommates in college who didn’t smoke at all but never went to class and flunked out. If they smoked, would you blame the weed?

It sounds like many of you would.

Chances are, the guys literally not doing shit and smoking weed…wouldn’t be doing shit if they didn’t smoke. You also likely will NOT hear about the neurosurgeon who smokes weed…because he won’t be practicing for long if you did know…so you probably won’t know many people at that level who do.

Get it?

My guess is, if someone is freely open about smoking weed, they are either self employed or won’t be working for long…not because weed did it directly.

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[quote]Edevus wrote:
I kinda compare it to drinking and being at the tipsy point (I haven’t always been tee total).
I kinda can say already that I wouldn’t like it, mostly because I already have a very negative view on it. But this kinda reminds me of conversations I’ve had with people around here (#5 country in the world on relative drinking, go figure). “How can you enjoy watching a football game without opening a can of beer” or “how can you enjoy talking to strangers without having drank some”.

Well…it seems I’m a weirdo, because I can do that being totally sober.[/quote]

Some people might be like that, but that’s not the way I am. I can enjoy food, music, and movies just fine sober and do just that right now. But back when I did smoke, if I wanted to do these activities at a more intense level then I’d get high. Most of the time, I wouldn’t want to be at that level very often anyway. That’s why I don’t even find pot addictive at all. But it’s not a matter of not being able to enjoy these activities sober.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Edevus wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Edevus wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Edevus wrote:
Some years ago I had a boss who had abused of weed in his youth and he was very slow thinking and talking. It was like if he had lag or something. Having a conversation with him was very annoying, since sentences and topics would overlap. He also had very bad short term memory, to the point of forgetting his friend in a gas station or what he had commanded to do thirty seconds ago.

I guess this only happens if you really abuse it.

[/quote]

No, you have people with mental disorders all over the country. Without his full medical history, it is quite a leap to jump to that conclusion.[/quote]

Maybe. But everybody who knew him well commented on this. He was a very cool guy, but very annoying to deal with, as you can imagine.

[/quote]

Dude, the average lay person is completely clueless about this shit…so I would not rely on anything but a real medical diagnosis.

Weed isn’t even documented as having an effect like that. That sounds like brain damage.[/quote]

Wait, wait, wait.

WHY and the fuck would the put a brain damaged slow witted dude as a manager? Was this a government job? [/quote]

Not public job. It was in a cinema. He was very cool guy and he was very good at “selling himself”. I think that once you start talking with him, you get hypnotized or something. Truth it, it was very chaotic and some people just ignored his orders. Often he wouldn’t remember anyways.

Once we had some internet connection issues and he tried to fix it himself. So he went to some room with a big panel with electronical stuff, and, I have no idea how, he managed to rip off from the wall the entire panel (he was quite strong) and he still managed to call me by radio to ask for help. The conversation was something like :
“Hello. Are…you…busy…right now? I may…have…some issues here”.
“Oh, what’s wrong, where are you?”
“Well, the thing is…you know this room…by the bathrooms…in the main area? The one it’s always closed…by the right area? Well…now it’s left for you, but right for me…or, no, wait…well, I’m there.”
“Ok, I’m coming, but right or left?”
“Well, that depends, you know…where are you now?”
“I’m in client service right now, I’m on my way”
“Good, because, you see…I have this very heavy thing over me and, well, I don’t know how long I can hold it”
“Ok, but left or right?”
“Well, good question…because you know…where are you now?”
“Almost at the right side bathrooms”
“No…no…no, go to left side bathrooms”.

And so on. I don’t think I will ever forget about it. I eventually found him and he was somewhat trapped by the panel, holding the radio over the panel. He just had to kneel down and leave the panel in the floor, but it seems it didn’t cross his mind. And that thing was VERY heavy. I really don’t know what he did, how, nothing. And I guess that asking it would have been too much.

Ah, those were fun times…

[/quote]

LOL.

Yeah, blaming weed for that is a little off. He sounds like his issues are from more deep seated sources. Either way, most of the people I knew who smoked don’t now. However, I did know people with very advanced careers who did and much of what some of you are describing sounds like people who would have troubles in life no matter what.

I mean, I had roommates in college who didn’t smoke at all but never went to class and flunked out. If they smoked, would you blame the weed?

It sounds like many of you would.

Chances are, the guys literally not doing shit and smoking weed…wouldn’t be doing shit if they didn’t smoke. You also likely will NOT hear about the neurosurgeon who smokes weed…because he won’t be practicing for long if you did know…so you probably won’t know many people at that level who do.

Get it?

My guess is, if someone is freely open about smoking weed, they are either self employed or won’t be working for long…not because weed did it directly.[/quote]

Yeah, I understand your point, but the situation may differ country-wise. Most people who I knew that were smoking weed were kinda drop-outs and stuff, except two who just smoke time to time and as far I know, still do and they got a nice career going on.

But as I said, I don’t care that much if other people do it. I just don’t associate with those.
I got to say that at least people who are high on weed don’t seem to cause as many troubles as people who have been drinking too much and feel they own the city…

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[quote]sam_sneed wrote:

[quote]Edevus wrote:
I kinda compare it to drinking and being at the tipsy point (I haven’t always been tee total).
I kinda can say already that I wouldn’t like it, mostly because I already have a very negative view on it. But this kinda reminds me of conversations I’ve had with people around here (#5 country in the world on relative drinking, go figure). “How can you enjoy watching a football game without opening a can of beer” or “how can you enjoy talking to strangers without having drank some”.

Well…it seems I’m a weirdo, because I can do that being totally sober.[/quote]

Some people might be like that, but that’s not the way I am. I can enjoy food, music, and movies just fine sober and do just right that now. But back when I did smoke, if I wanted to do these activities at a more intense level then I’d get high. Most of the time, I wouldn’t want to be at that level very often anyway. That’s why I don’t even find pot addictive at all. But it’s not a matter of not being able to enjoy these activities sober.
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I understand what you mean, but I can enjoy those activities just fine as well.

I actually joined this thread because some people have recommended me to give it a try to fight some anxiety issues that sometimes I have…but I feel that I’d be losing a very important part of myself doing so, so I feel less than inclined to even give it a try, but I wanted to see if someone was commenting on the CNS and relaxing stuff.

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[quote]Edevus wrote:

I understand what you mean, but I can enjoy those activities just fine as well.

I actually joined this thread because some people have recommended me to give it a try to fight some anxiety issues that sometimes I have…but I feel that I’d be losing a very important part of myself doing so, so I feel less than inclined to even give it a try, but I wanted to see if someone was commenting on the CNS and relaxing stuff.[/quote]

I haven’t read any studies on anxiety and marijuana. I can tell you that when I was 22 I was under a ton of stress and pressure. During this period, I had a few full fledged anxiety attacks. The kind where I’d be driving and not even recognize the highway I was driving on. This is a road I took every weekend for 4 years to get to work. I was regularly smoking at the time and the weed didn’t do jack shit to help it as far as I’m concerned. I removed the sources of the stress and I’ve never had an anxiety attack since then. So in my experience, it didn’t help my anxiety issues at all.

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[quote]Edevus wrote:

[quote]sam_sneed wrote:

[quote]Edevus wrote:
I kinda compare it to drinking and being at the tipsy point (I haven’t always been tee total).
I kinda can say already that I wouldn’t like it, mostly because I already have a very negative view on it. But this kinda reminds me of conversations I’ve had with people around here (#5 country in the world on relative drinking, go figure). “How can you enjoy watching a football game without opening a can of beer” or “how can you enjoy talking to strangers without having drank some”.

Well…it seems I’m a weirdo, because I can do that being totally sober.[/quote]

Some people might be like that, but that’s not the way I am. I can enjoy food, music, and movies just fine sober and do just right that now. But back when I did smoke, if I wanted to do these activities at a more intense level then I’d get high. Most of the time, I wouldn’t want to be at that level very often anyway. That’s why I don’t even find pot addictive at all. But it’s not a matter of not being able to enjoy these activities sober.
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I understand what you mean, but I can enjoy those activities just fine as well.

I actually joined this thread because some people have recommended me to give it a try to fight some anxiety issues that sometimes I have…but I feel that I’d be losing a very important part of myself doing so, so I feel less than inclined to even give it a try, but I wanted to see if someone was commenting on the CNS and relaxing stuff.[/quote]

Well, the point is, you NEVER hear anyone crying about how they can enjoy going out without alcohol or that everyone who drinks alcohol is a loser for wanting to feel like that at all…at least not without being hit with a bottle.

Why the double standard?

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[quote]rrjc5488 wrote:

[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:

[quote]angus_beef wrote:
… you would get drunk much quicker if you got sodomized with an open bottle of jack daniels than you would by simply drinking it.

. [/quote]

Actually, that would likely kill you. Alcohol (and nicotine) is extremely toxic.

BBB[/quote]

Moral of the story: Don’t blow smoke up anyone’s ass - you may kill them.

:slight_smile:

[/quote]

Hahahaha !!

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
The effects of THC on the brain are largely transient and temporary. I can not find conclusive evidence of most of the scare tactics info that you see on the internet.

You have to understand that when it comes to marijuana, drug companies and industrial companies do NOT want it legal because it will take money from their pockets.

More people on Xanax may turn to an easily grown plant instead…or the clothing industry may take a hit if more people turn to hemp over cotton…or law enforcement now won’t be able to request a million dollar budget if what they use as excuse to fund that much won’t be there as an enemy any longer.

That is why you can’t just go find ONE study and form an opinion…because there are 5 more that contradict it because the group who studied it does not want it to be seen in a positive light by the general public at all.

For instance, you have people in this thread right now who won’t think twice about drinking a beer or some Henny and Coke but are blatantly against anyone smoking weed…and that makes zero sense.

The bottom line is, IF YOU ALONE find your motivation and work capacity waning, then you need to change what you are doing.

making blanket statement for all people is unnecessary. [/quote]
So much truth right here.

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EDIT

Angry post made BEFORE I was high, go figure.

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Does anyone who didn’t put me on ignore have a link to the ‘marijuana lowers the risk of lung cancer’ claim?

I skimmed through a few previous weed threads and couldn’t find a link.

I’ve found a few studies that say THC decreases the size of lung cancer tumors, but they haven’t specified the administration method of the THC (except one I found injected THC).