Sir… I don’t know what you want? Can you please explain to me what it is that you want for these women. When you DO that, you Can then take your time and back your thoughts up with facts as to why you belive this should happen.
Otherwise wise Im just going to believe what I thought from these beggining. That you are a Troll.
I brought that up because that is your typical arguement from you tards. Anyone who disagrees with you lot are called bigots, homophobes, xylophones you name it…
I mentioned over and over I did not know the womens national team had a salary ( This is unheard of in the International game) . I said over and over they can ask for more money. After all they are World Cup Champs (4x by the way). So they probably deserve it.
I simply was explaining why they got So little money compared to the men. This is because of prize money and tournament revenue.
I actually watched and am a fan of the womens world cup as I love soccer and its an exciting tournament filled with alot of talented players. Unfortunately I was also unaware who most of the players were and Im sure it will happen again when the next time we bring their names up ( in 4 years)
As a life long Trotskyist forced to compromise ideals with the Marxist-Leninist League to bring about full communism, something you Western fools redundantly call “anarcho communism”, I resent being associated with spineless, corporate ass kissing liberals.
I misread you, then. My sense in reading your post was that you were vindicated in disliking Rapinoe, so crowing “even a little kid sees that toxic bitch for what she is” rather than saying “my goofy 12-year-old is all up in arms about it, and CANNOT be talked off the ‘all soccer players are gay’ ledge.”
In fairness, my point is a little of both. Both my wife and I are huge fans of kids’ sports.
Heck, if you recall my wife is a pretty famous (in those obscure circles) rock climber. We get trips to the Alps so she can show off to kids and inspire kids to climb. Not to mention tons of swag from outdoor companies that want to take our picture in the gear.
And, yeah, part of the reason we get the stuff, even in retirement from competition is my wife is extremely pretty and girly while still being tough.
So, no I am not one of the haters of women’s sports on here.
I do, however, actively dislike the team captain as an ambassador for girls’ sports.
She is exactly the opposite of my tough wife — she has adopted course and crude behaviors of male athletes — the worst aspects of maleness.
And makes the normal girls afraid to be associated with sports for fear of being teased by other girls.
While this could have easily been described, and agreed upon that it’s a normal case of one party overstating their claims in a negotiation process, you decided to go the extra mile and write something stupid:
Which is one of the reasons why you are getting shit from people.
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You sure?
Huh?
What’s wrong with this? Why do you keep bringing it up? They initially wanted a revenue sharing model from the games played but the USSF turned them down. They did earn more than the men. It doesn’t mean the men can’t earn more if they qualify for the next World Cup. Winning the World Cup brings in more ratings, advertising potential and sponsorships, which increases revenue, which increases leverage.
How about this. Go back to the articles where you sourced the women’s basic pay and tell me what the NET revenue for the men and women’s team was.
Don’t be silly. What if they played 30 games? That’s 130k more for the men. 40? That’s 260k more for the men. Do they even play more than 10 friendlies a year? Do they only play friendlies? Is this the main source of revenue for both teams? These numbers are meaningless when considering the whole issue.
It was one silly, and disingenuous point in the lawsuit to begin with. But then again, it’s a lawsuit. This isn’t out of the norm.
The article counters it with a simple example just to make a point that the figures are more complicated than that.
Duuuude, lots of people who are upset about this lawsuit, and you’ve seen some of them arguing in thread, think the MAIN issue is the FIFA PRIZE MONEY.
And how on earth did the USSF, a corporate entity with an annual revenue of over 100 million, automatically become the VICTIM just because some dumb dyke supposedly said too much dumb shit?
I don’t get this argument. I lived in a shithole country. Now I don’t. You think I’m going to be shortchanged in my dealings now just because others have it a lot worse off? What does this have to do with anything?
I’m going to respond to the other stuff but I’ll reply to these two real quick
Are you saying the main issue people have is the FIFA prize money? Why is that an issue? If FIFA is pulling in 131million and paying out 30million spread to 24 teams what is the issue? You can say FIFA should be paying everyone out more but instead they try to say FIFA pays out the men more favorably, which isn’t the case.
I don’t get this argument. I lived in a shithole country. Now I don’t. You think I’m going to be shortchanged in my dealings now just because others have it a lot worse off? What does this have to do with anything?
Because their argument wasn’t just “we influence the world, we want to be compensated for this, we want better funding for our programs and women worldwide” their message is PATRIARCHY BAD! WE ARE BEING DISCRIMINATED AGAINST!
They’ve decided to go to the public with their grievance so their messaging is important. I, a long with many others, find their approach to be extremely poor taste and this is what this entire thread is about.
Dude, I’ve said this to you many times in the other thread as well I’m not here to hold your hand. You have fingers, you have google at your disposal. I"m not going to have citations to every comment I make. That’s so unreasonable. Be fucking real.
You can literally wikipedia tv ratings for u.s soccer matches (men/women) in a matter of seconds. I’m not going to do it for you. You’re a big boy, come on now.
Yes, because I follow the sport, and I follow the national program here in the states I know these things. But if you insist on looking it up, you can. You can research how the members vote the new president in, they split it into groups, and one of the member blocks consist of the women and their delegates. And the main reason he got their backing was because of his ‘promise’ of looking into their gender pay gap bullshit (not sure how he framed it at the time but it was about their previous lawsuit)
Ok? It’s brought up because the women won the World Cup while the men didn’t even qualify. That hasn’t happened, where the men don’t qualify, in over 30 years. It’s a rare occurrence that won’t happen again for another god knows how long. It was a fluke, a disastrous fluke. I’m sure you don’t even know how the men got eliminated do you? It was some insane 50-1 odds or more lol it was hilariously crazy .
So because of an anomaly that doesn’t happen for decades the women edged up and made a little bit more than the men when the men had a disaster of a year… that’s not exactly rock solid argument to me. sorry. is it factual? Can you say “the women made more gate revenue than the men in this year” yes, but in context it doesn’t hold the weight that you think it does.
You don’t know this because you don’t follow the sport
Well, they are arguing that they are being paid less while making more. So the women can show that they ‘earn more revenue’ from bullshit cherry picked data but the same numbers that show them making more is an exaggeration and shouldn’t be taken into consideration?
See, that’s you playing sides now. Where is your objectivism? I always said it wasn’t the full picture, I always said it was complicated, and the federation has said as much as well, they haven’t gone full kill mode because if they do the women will probably look even worse and the USSF will be accused of being hateful sexist pigs lol
see, when the women brought this to the public it became a PR issue and the current state of politics in this country dictates that the men have to tread carefully or the fucking mobs will descend harshly upon them.
5 years ago things were different, and the USSF president then didn’t hesitate to come out and obliterate their bullshit claims. We’re in a different climate now, unfortunately.