Now, research is your friend. If they want proof that olympic lifting is dangerous, they should look at the research done by well known institutes. I think thibaudeau had a hand in this article had his name next to an illutration Ex in quotes, but a link to more information that proves otherwise. Prove them wrong with validated research.
[quote] IS OLYMPIC LIFTING SAFE?
There is a startling bit of information that was not brought to light until recently. The chances of injury, both during and as a result of training on machines, is far greater than while lifting free weights while standing on your own two feet. Now I must admit that, at first, this seemed odd to me. Most of us in Sports Performance Business simply assumed that machines offered the user a bit more safety than free weights! You know, limited range of movement, carefully hidden moving parts, total lack of ballistic stress, and so forth. Not so, according to these relatively recent research findings:
Weightlifters [Olympic style] have less than half the injury rate per 100 hours of training than do those engaged in other forms of weight training; 17 vs 35. (Hamill, B. â??Relative Safety of Weightlifting and Weight Training.â?? Journal of Strength and Conditioning Research, 8(1):53-57.1994)
Retired Olympic weight lifters had lower lifetime incidence and prevalence of low back pain than a control group of normal active men of similar age; 23% vs. 31%. (Granhed, H. et al. â??Low back pain among retired wrestlers and heavyweight lifters.â??
The American Journal of Sports Medicine,16(5): 530-533. 1988)
Mike Stone, et al., provided an excellent review of the research literature on this topic. The inescapable conclusion was that weightlifting is indeed the safest method of weight training. (Stone,M. H., A. C. Fry, M. Ritchie, L. Stoessel-Ross, and J. L. Marsit. â??Injury potential and safety aspects of weightlifting movements.â?? Strength and Conditioning. June: 15-21, 1994)
It is clear now, that Dr. Oâ??Shea knew what he was talking about. The very forms of stress that machines force you to avoid are the ones your body not only craves because they simulate all movement on planet Earth, but absolutely requires for safety reasons, as well as performance reasons![/quote]
And benefits
[quote] Benefits of OLYMPIC LIFTS for Athletes
Arthur Drechsler, author of the single most important book ever written on Olympic weightlifting (The Weightlifting Encyclopedia, A is A Communications, New York, 1997), hit the nail on the head. Speaking about the unique value of the Olympic lifts for athletes, Drechsler listed eight benefits unavailable to those using machines:
The mere practice of the (Olympic) lifts [the snatch and the clean & jerk as well as related lifting techniques] teaches an athlete how to explode.
The practice of proper technique in the Olympic lifts teaches an athlete to apply force with his or her muscle groups in the proper sequences.
In mastering the Olympic lifts, the athlete learns how to accelerate objects under varying degrees of resistance.
The athlete learns to receive force from another moving body effectively, and becomes conditioned to accept such forces.
The athlete learns to move effectively from an eccentric contraction to a concentric one.
The actual movements performed while executing the Olympic lifts are among the most common and fundamental in sports.
Practicing the Olympic lifts trains an athleteâ??s explosive capabilities, and the lifts themselves measure the effectiveness of the athlete in generating explosive power to a greater degree than most other exercises they can practice.
The Olympic lifts are simply fun to do. [/quote]
I go to a small technological university college up in Norway, but no, before i came along, we didn’t even have a weight room. Commercial gyms were the only option. When we got sick of all the bullshit, me and some friends started an olympic lifting and powerlifting club in one of the schools bomb shelters. Made a platform, welded up a rack, a prowler and lots of other stuff. Now we can use chalk, drop weights, grunt, sweat and bleed without anyone giving a shit.
Funny how that works out. I am at a Div 3 NESCAC school, and there are 5 power cages set on deadlift platforms in the regular gym alone. In the varsity gym, there are 5 more cages with platforms, 5 without platforms, and 3 platforms with half racks and bumper plates for olympic lifts. U Jelly?
I went to undergrad at another SEC school, and while we do not have an oly platform, as another poster said of his or her university, you can do pretty much whatever you want at our rec as long as you’re wearing shoes. Also, we do have a padded room specifically for the powerlifters and oly lifters. We’re not allowed to deadlift without shoes on.
Going to grad school at an Ivy League school, and there are no oly platforms. They would not be cool with oly lifts, but then again I’m looked at like some sort of alien lifeform because I squat.
[quote]GoingViking wrote:
I’m at Case Western Reserve University, much smaller than UK, and we’ve got 11 total platforms - 8 with attached half-racks and 3 free-standing.
Platforms are not the enemy, idiot students and shitty coaching are.[/quote]
I hear ya. And most people only deadlift on it anyway. The few of us who do the olympic lifts all know our way around the gym, so to speak.
[quote]grayman19 wrote:
Funny how that works out. I am at a Div 3 NESCAC school, and there are 5 power cages set on deadlift platforms in the regular gym alone. In the varsity gym, there are 5 more cages with platforms, 5 without platforms, and 3 platforms with half racks and bumper plates for olympic lifts. U Jelly?[/quote]
UK for sure has tons of oly platforms, but not at your main gym. I’m sure the athletes have a shit ton of platforms in their little secret gym. The key is finding a way to workout with them in that gym
I worked at our gym for many years, and oly and overhead lifting never had a higher injury rate than anything else. PM me if you want to get more detailed information from our department.
Hell, there were two Oly platforms at the MIT gym five years ago. I assume they are still there. They were the power rack/platform combo. Of course at an SEC school, the athletes’ weight room is probably stocked beyond belief, so maybe try to get on a coach’s good side?