Understanding Tipping

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[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:

[quote]Edevus wrote:

[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
We may be young but our food is better, just like every thing else.

Especially better than British food. Fucking gross.

I don’t care where Paella gets it’s name. Just focus on ingredients. Rice and meat. Fish. Meat no rice. Rice no meat. Rice and Fish. All cultures eat the same thing, with their own twists.
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Spanish food is not Spanish if American is not American by your own logic. How is that for “Clarity”?

I suppose it stands to reason that we have magical trees with special fruits and food sources no one has ever heard of outside of the US since we are so fucking awesome but we don’t. Just our own twists on the food sources every one recognizes. Fucking awesome twists.

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Again, I have to surrender to that logic. First you say something is not true, then you accuse me of lying, I show you the proof that you are wrong and…we go through the arrogance route.

And just because I’m feeling fine with this discussion :

I don’t care where Paella gets it’s name.

I’m sure you meant “its name”.

wink

[/quote]Yes I did mean its. Android fucks me often but, as I am American, if I say it’s it’s, it is and that’s that.
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Ha, Ha

Awesome

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This thread has taken a strange turn…

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[quote]DarkNinjaa wrote:
This thread has taken a strange turn…[/quote]

Yes, it took a turn for the worse a long time ago.

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[quote]DarkNinjaa wrote:
This thread has taken a strange turn…[/quote]

Tips became dull.

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[quote]four60 wrote:

[quote]DarkNinjaa wrote:
This thread has taken a strange turn…[/quote]

Tips became dull.[/quote]

Yea it went from tips to food…weird. Entertaining either way though!

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[quote]Edevus wrote:
USA is a very, very young country compared to most European nations (who have changed names and stuff though), thus, things like culture (which includes food) is very pale compared to Spain, Italy, Great Britain (you were a former colony, remember?), etc.

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Perhaps you should visit sometime and make up your own mind.

I have had the luxury to be able to travel quite a bit and the Europeans I have encountered who use the ‘young country excuse’ to downplay our culture are those who have never traveled to the U.S.

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[quote]Christine wrote:

[quote]Edevus wrote:
USA is a very, very young country compared to most European nations (who have changed names and stuff though), thus, things like culture (which includes food) is very pale compared to Spain, Italy, Great Britain (you were a former colony, remember?), etc.

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Perhaps you should visit sometime and make up your own mind.

I have had the luxury to be able to travel quite a bit and the Europeans I have encountered who use the ‘young country excuse’ to downplay our culture are those who have never traveled to the U.S.

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Plus we kicked the shit out of what was the world’s most powerful country.

Obviously fucking stronger. Then they came back for more, burned down the White House sure but went home tails tucked again.

Then we saved all of Europe from itself, twice.

Plus our movies and music (arts) are clearly superior with few exceptions. Food too as we’ve so eloquently discovered. Clothing… blue jeans are fucking hot world wide. Democracy was shoved right back down Europes throat after the “shot heard 'round the world”… This list could go on forever too.

The young thing is played out bs. We were better, our forefathers knew it and broke off.

Also, nachos > fish and chips.

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[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
Also, nachos > fish and chips.[/quote]

Hey, hey, hey…I love nachos, but I have to disagree with you here…good fish ‘n’ chips are daaaaamn good.

Plus, it’s pretty much the only culinary thing that Englad has done right…let’s give it to them.

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[quote]benos4752 wrote:

[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
Also, nachos > fish and chips.[/quote]

Hey, hey, hey…I love nachos, but I have to disagree with you here…good fish are daaaaamn good.

Plus, it’s pretty much the only culinary thing that Englad has done right…let’s give it to them.[/quote]
It’s allright at best, unless they jazz it up with Tony Cacheres or Zatarans or something. I mean it’s good but good nachos are way >.

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I worked my ass off at a restaurant for 3 years (my shirt would be soaked all the way through with sweat after/during 6 hours), but here’s the thing…

FUCK DELIVERY DRIVERS!!! I mean, I’ll tip them a buck or two for gas and what little amount of hard-work they have to do, but fuck them for wanting much more. gas, brake, turn, gas, break, turn, walk 50 ft to give me my food is not that much hard work…it just isn’t.

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[quote]carbiduis wrote:
I worked my ass off at a restaurant for 3 years (my shirt would be soaked all the way through with sweat after/during 6 hours), but here’s the thing…

FUCK DELIVERY DRIVERS!!! I mean, I’ll tip them a buck or two for gas and what little amount of hard-work they have to do, but fuck them for wanting much more. gas, brake, turn, gas, break, turn, walk 50 ft to give me my food is not that much hard work…it just isn’t. [/quote]
They still provide a service. You are paying for the convenience they deliver.

Buffets though, I don’t understand tipping at those.

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[quote]carbiduis wrote:
I worked my ass off at a restaurant for 3 years (my shirt would be soaked all the way through with sweat after/during 6 hours), but here’s the thing…

FUCK DELIVERY DRIVERS!!! I mean, I’ll tip them a buck or two for gas and what little amount of hard-work they have to do, but fuck them for wanting much more. gas, brake, turn, gas, break, turn, walk 50 ft to give me my food is not that much hard work…it just isn’t. [/quote]

You understand, of course, that it isn’t at all unusual for places have delivery drivers perform functions above and beyond simply delivery pizzas, right?

Particularly places that pay their drivers below minimum wage… because it is cheaper to have someone help make food, wash the dishes, answer phones, take orders, sweep/mop/etc at $5 an hour in between running food out under the rationale of them making it up with delivery tips than it is to keep another person on the clock at minimum wage to do the same shit?

You must also realize that it costs them money to run food out to your ass (gas) and that some of them can put well over 100 miles on their car over a night’s shift, depending on the establishment’s delivery area. In areas with a lot of traffic, this will eventually add up to a good deal of wear and tear.

Not to mention when customers get a fucked up order (whether through their own fault or from whomever took their order) and the driver has to run the free shit back out for free.

If you live a half mile down the road… fine, tip two bucks. But if your lazy ass is gonna keep the driver out of the store for 30+ minutes to get you your shit, then show some appreciation for the fact that the time he is wasting with you is taking money out of his pocket for other deliveries he can be getting out.

The tip is a convenience charge so you can sit on your ass and have FRESH, COOKED FOOD DRIVEN TO YOUR HOUSE. Even before I delivered pizzas, I was always surprised that some people valued this service at only a buck or two.

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Yeah, working as a delivery driver was by far the most exhausting, involved job I have ever had. Any time you are in the store, you are working, as stated above. If having your food delivered to you is not important, why don’t you pick it up yourself? If it is, tip the people who make less than minimum wage and are personally delivering your food to you from miles away.

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[quote]eeu743 wrote:
Yeah, working as a delivery driver was by far the most exhausting, involved job I have ever had. Any time you are in the store, you are working, as stated above. If having your food delivered to you is not important, why don’t you pick it up yourself? If it is, tip the people who make less than minimum wage and are personally delivering your food to you from miles away.[/quote]

You and anonym got me thinking I need to tip my delivery guys more. After two weeks offshore, when I get home all I want to do is fuck and get drunk. That also means Chinese or pizza gets delivered so I don’t have to put on pants. Definitely need to tip those guys better.

As for restaurants, I tip $1 per refill. Shitheads that ignore me won’t make much in tips, but the waitress that keeps my glass full over the course of the evening can make beaucoup money.

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[quote]Christine wrote:

[quote]Edevus wrote:
USA is a very, very young country compared to most European nations (who have changed names and stuff though), thus, things like culture (which includes food) is very pale compared to Spain, Italy, Great Britain (you were a former colony, remember?), etc.

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Perhaps you should visit sometime and make up your own mind.

I have had the luxury to be able to travel quite a bit and the Europeans I have encountered who use the ‘young country excuse’ to downplay our culture are those who have never traveled to the U.S.

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Anyone I know (colleagues, friends, relatives) who’ve been to USA have said the same :
“Spectacular country, but the food is awful everywhere”.

It’s not an excuse though. USA is a very young country and it was a former colony.

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[quote]Bujo wrote:

[quote]eeu743 wrote:
Yeah, working as a delivery driver was by far the most exhausting, involved job I have ever had. Any time you are in the store, you are working, as stated above. If having your food delivered to you is not important, why don’t you pick it up yourself? If it is, tip the people who make less than minimum wage and are personally delivering your food to you from miles away.[/quote]

You and anonym got me thinking I need to tip my delivery guys more. After two weeks offshore, when I get home all I want to do is fuck and get drunk. That also means Chinese or pizza gets delivered so I don’t have to put on pants. Definitely need to tip those guys better.

As for restaurants, I tip $1 per refill. Shitheads that ignore me won’t make much in tips, but the waitress that keeps my glass full over the course of the evening can make beaucoup money.[/quote]

I mean in most cases, a delivery driver certainly isn’t providing you the same level of personal service a waiter or waitress is. The base pay is higher, because you are expected to tip less, because it’s less of a customer service job. But still, without tips, it’s a minimum wage job, before you pay for gas. I always did my best to be friendly and polite, I almost never screwed up an order in any way, and I tried to be as quick as possible. If there was any extra thing I could do to make their experience better, I tried to do it. In most cases, it doesn’t matter.

Personally, for me, you didn’t have to give me any crazy amount, but if they do their job well, give em at least two bucks. Giving 4 or 5 only costs you a few more bucks, but when people were generous like that, it always made my night a lot better and made it a lot easier to keep going through some tough shifts.

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Baws. I thought this here thread was about the ancient and celebrated art of pushing over sleeping cows. =(

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[quote]Edevus wrote:

[quote]Christine wrote:

[quote]Edevus wrote:
USA is a very, very young country compared to most European nations (who have changed names and stuff though), thus, things like culture (which includes food) is very pale compared to Spain, Italy, Great Britain (you were a former colony, remember?), etc.

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Perhaps you should visit sometime and make up your own mind.

I have had the luxury to be able to travel quite a bit and the Europeans I have encountered who use the ‘young country excuse’ to downplay our culture are those who have never traveled to the U.S.

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Anyone I know (colleagues, friends, relatives) who’ve been to USA have said the same :
“Spectacular country, but the food is awful everywhere”.

It’s not an excuse though. USA is a very young country and it was a former colony. [/quote]

Then everybody you know that went to the US are a bunch of morons. Where did they eat at? If all they did was stop at McDonald’s, then yeah the food sucked. McDonald’s is a shitty place to eat. It’s not like every restaurant in Spain is a winner either.

The people that make up the US came from all those “old” countries, and they brought with them those traditions and cultures. That includes the food, art, music, etc… I can think of a dozen restaurants run by immigrants that are the first generation of their families to become US citizens. They come from all over the world. Libya, Greece, Thailand, Japan, Mexico, Panama, Venezuela, etc… I know another dozen restaurants run by families long established here in the states that swear to use the same recipes their grandmother used, and others that have created their own unique style of food.

I’ve dated girls from Mexico, Israel, Italy, and Nigeria. Each one of them has opened my eyes to new experiences and ways of thinking. In much the same way people from those countries and many more have left their marks on the US. Our culture isn’t pale. It’s blended.

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[quote]Bujo wrote:

[quote]Edevus wrote:

[quote]Christine wrote:

[quote]Edevus wrote:
USA is a very, very young country compared to most European nations (who have changed names and stuff though), thus, things like culture (which includes food) is very pale compared to Spain, Italy, Great Britain (you were a former colony, remember?), etc.

[/quote]

Perhaps you should visit sometime and make up your own mind.

I have had the luxury to be able to travel quite a bit and the Europeans I have encountered who use the ‘young country excuse’ to downplay our culture are those who have never traveled to the U.S.

[/quote]

Anyone I know (colleagues, friends, relatives) who’ve been to USA have said the same :
“Spectacular country, but the food is awful everywhere”.

It’s not an excuse though. USA is a very young country and it was a former colony. [/quote]

Then everybody you know that went to the US are a bunch of morons. Where did they eat at? If all they did was stop at McDonald’s, then yeah the food sucked. McDonald’s is a shitty place to eat. It’s not like every restaurant in Spain is a winner either.

The people that make up the US came from all those “old” countries, and they brought with them those traditions and cultures. That includes the food, art, music, etc… I can think of a dozen restaurants run by immigrants that are the first generation of their families to become US citizens. They come from all over the world. Libya, Greece, Thailand, Japan, Mexico, Panama, Venezuela, etc… I know another dozen restaurants run by families long established here in the states that swear to use the same recipes their grandmother used, and others that have created their own unique style of food.

I’ve dated girls from Mexico, Israel, Italy, and Nigeria. Each one of them has opened my eyes to new experiences and ways of thinking. In much the same way people from those countries and many more have left their marks on the US. Our culture isn’t pale. It’s blended.
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As far I know, they all avoided eating at places like McDonald’s…because you can eat that at home.

Again, most of these people are used to very exquisite food, so if you go somewhere else…
Jamón serrano (cured ham) with bread, olive oil and stuff is very simple, but, oh my…

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[quote]Edevus wrote:

[quote]Bujo wrote:

[quote]Edevus wrote:

[quote]Christine wrote:

[quote]Edevus wrote:
USA is a very, very young country compared to most European nations (who have changed names and stuff though), thus, things like culture (which includes food) is very pale compared to Spain, Italy, Great Britain (you were a former colony, remember?), etc.

[/quote]

Perhaps you should visit sometime and make up your own mind.

I have had the luxury to be able to travel quite a bit and the Europeans I have encountered who use the ‘young country excuse’ to downplay our culture are those who have never traveled to the U.S.

[/quote]

Anyone I know (colleagues, friends, relatives) who’ve been to USA have said the same :
“Spectacular country, but the food is awful everywhere”.

It’s not an excuse though. USA is a very young country and it was a former colony. [/quote]

Then everybody you know that went to the US are a bunch of morons. Where did they eat at? If all they did was stop at McDonald’s, then yeah the food sucked. McDonald’s is a shitty place to eat. It’s not like every restaurant in Spain is a winner either.

The people that make up the US came from all those “old” countries, and they brought with them those traditions and cultures. That includes the food, art, music, etc… I can think of a dozen restaurants run by immigrants that are the first generation of their families to become US citizens. They come from all over the world. Libya, Greece, Thailand, Japan, Mexico, Panama, Venezuela, etc… I know another dozen restaurants run by families long established here in the states that swear to use the same recipes their grandmother used, and others that have created their own unique style of food.

I’ve dated girls from Mexico, Israel, Italy, and Nigeria. Each one of them has opened my eyes to new experiences and ways of thinking. In much the same way people from those countries and many more have left their marks on the US. Our culture isn’t pale. It’s blended.
[/quote]

As far I know, they all avoided eating at places like McDonald’s…because you can eat that at home.

Again, most of these people are used to very exquisite food, so if you go somewhere else…
JamÃ?³n serrano (cured ham) with bread, olive oil and stuff is very simple, but, oh my…
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hahaha, you’re so full of shit. I dig it. :slight_smile: