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USA is a very, very young country compared to most European nations (who have changed names and stuff though), thus, things like culture (which includes food) is very pale compared to Spain, Italy, Great Britain (you were a former colony, remember?), etc.
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Perhaps you should visit sometime and make up your own mind.
I have had the luxury to be able to travel quite a bit and the Europeans I have encountered who use the ‘young country excuse’ to downplay our culture are those who have never traveled to the U.S.
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Anyone I know (colleagues, friends, relatives) who’ve been to USA have said the same :
“Spectacular country, but the food is awful everywhere”.
It’s not an excuse though. USA is a very young country and it was a former colony. [/quote]
Then everybody you know that went to the US are a bunch of morons. Where did they eat at? If all they did was stop at McDonald’s, then yeah the food sucked. McDonald’s is a shitty place to eat. It’s not like every restaurant in Spain is a winner either.
The people that make up the US came from all those “old” countries, and they brought with them those traditions and cultures. That includes the food, art, music, etc… I can think of a dozen restaurants run by immigrants that are the first generation of their families to become US citizens. They come from all over the world. Libya, Greece, Thailand, Japan, Mexico, Panama, Venezuela, etc… I know another dozen restaurants run by families long established here in the states that swear to use the same recipes their grandmother used, and others that have created their own unique style of food.
I’ve dated girls from Mexico, Israel, Italy, and Nigeria. Each one of them has opened my eyes to new experiences and ways of thinking. In much the same way people from those countries and many more have left their marks on the US. Our culture isn’t pale. It’s blended.
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As far I know, they all avoided eating at places like McDonald’s…because you can eat that at home.
Again, most of these people are used to very exquisite food, so if you go somewhere else…
JamÃ???Ã???Ã???Ã???Ã???Ã???Ã??Ã?³n serrano (cured ham) with bread, olive oil and stuff is very simple, but, oh my…
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hahaha, you’re so full of shit. I dig it. :)[/quote]
Right. You’re the one who called me liar and still haven’t admitted I was right and you were wrong.
But hey, don’t worry man, when tourists leave Spain they always praise the weather and the food, but I’m sure that, inside, they wish they were in USA eating some typical American food…
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That’s funny, my mom has been to Spain three times, never said a word about the food. She did say it was beautiful for such a backwards country though.
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Ah, cheap shot. Don’t worry, no empire has lasted forever.[/quote]
But isn’t that what the uncultured young country comment is? The Americas did have an old culture, until the disease infested Europeans arrived. And so many foods you claim as originating in Spain would be nothing without the AMERICAN tomato. I really have nothing against you personally, but the European snobbery gets old.[/quote]
It was not a cheap shot, it was an explanation. Food is part of culture and USA doesn’t have a centuries old culture like some European countries have. This is a fact. USA is a state born from a former colony and the original natives of the land are nowhere to be found and their culture, almost extinguished. I’m not saying things like “nothing good comes from USA!”, I’m strictly speaking about past culture. Former colony, no own language, no own ethnics, barely two centuries old history, etc. lead to have a “pale culture” compared to European nations, which leads to have less own food and so on.
Again, I’m not attacking USA, but talking about culture. What I’m stating are facts, not opinions. It’s also a fact that USA progressed very, very fast and put the last nail on the coffin of the, by then, already decaying Spanish Empire.
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We’ve already established US culture is the best on all fronts, young and all.