I had a two $70 dinners at some disney restaurants and both times I left a $10 tip and the waitresses looked at me like I spat in their faces.
What the fuck?
[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
[quote]shorty_blitz wrote:
Like I said carry on doing what you are doing. If you like your system the way it is then so be it. That’s why you do it your way and we do it ours. I just don’t like it.
[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
[quote]shorty_blitz wrote:
The norm here is you get a BASE salary and the rest you make in commissions and the sky is the limit. Do you live in a fucking jungle? I’m done with this thread.
[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
[quote]shorty_blitz wrote:
[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
Many sales people are on straight commission and 0 wage, retard. Tipping encourages better service just the same and is an expected form of compensation for service rendered as we do not include mandatory service charges.
[/quote]
0 wage hahahahaha WTF, is this really true wow
This would never happen here in the UK… and I’m the retard?![/quote]
I give my sales guys options. Only one took salary. I paid him 70k last year. Had he chosen commission, his percentage would have been exactly double. You are retarded, or you suck and need to just skate by. 0 salary, they still earn a wage retard.[/quote]
[/quote]Except what you don’t realize is even on a split, common here too, your commission percentages are always lower than straight contract and if you are worth your salt you are better off taking commission. I know I don’t want my guy growing balls and switching, 70k out of my pocket right there. His loss. I live in the currently most prosperous region of the most prosperous nation this world has ever seen, retard.
[/quote]
[/quote]Good thing the post was directed at Americans. FWIW, I wouldn’t tip for British food either, you’d have to pay me to eat that so I see your conundrum.
[/quote]
“British food”.
You’re talking like if there was something like “American food”.
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
Too cheap to part with a few bucks for a hard working waiter/waitress?
Stay home and eat.[/quote]
This (rubs forefinger and thumb together) is the world’s smallest violin playing just for the waitresses.[/quote]
Like I said, stay home and eat, Cheapo.
Then you can do your little finger trick on your dick without offending anyone.
[/quote]
.
[quote]Edevus wrote:
[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
[quote]shorty_blitz wrote:
Like I said carry on doing what you are doing. If you like your system the way it is then so be it. That’s why you do it your way and we do it ours. I just don’t like it.
[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
[quote]shorty_blitz wrote:
The norm here is you get a BASE salary and the rest you make in commissions and the sky is the limit. Do you live in a fucking jungle? I’m done with this thread.
[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
[quote]shorty_blitz wrote:
[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
Many sales people are on straight commission and 0 wage, retard. Tipping encourages better service just the same and is an expected form of compensation for service rendered as we do not include mandatory service charges.
[/quote]
0 wage hahahahaha WTF, is this really true wow
This would never happen here in the UK… and I’m the retard?![/quote]
I give my sales guys options. Only one took salary. I paid him 70k last year. Had he chosen commission, his percentage would have been exactly double. You are retarded, or you suck and need to just skate by. 0 salary, they still earn a wage retard.[/quote]
[/quote]Except what you don’t realize is even on a split, common here too, your commission percentages are always lower than straight contract and if you are worth your salt you are better off taking commission. I know I don’t want my guy growing balls and switching, 70k out of my pocket right there. His loss. I live in the currently most prosperous region of the most prosperous nation this world has ever seen, retard.
[/quote]
[/quote]Good thing the post was directed at Americans. FWIW, I wouldn’t tip for British food either, you’d have to pay me to eat that so I see your conundrum.
[/quote]
“British food”.
You’re talking like if there was something like “American food”.
[/quote]
Really? You don’t think there are foods unique to the states or that were created here? Ever had a Coney dog? You know, named after Coney island.
my policy on tipping totally depends on where I am. If I’m in the UK I generally dont tip unless its a really fancy or very large family meal. In Europe it depends on that country.
If I’m in the US I do tip as I know the situation with waiters/waitresses is different and its customary to tip being a brit, this is does seem really odd but I do it anyway.
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
Too cheap to part with a few bucks for a hard working waiter/waitress?
Stay home and eat.[/quote]
This (rubs forefinger and thumb together) is the world’s smallest violin playing just for the waitresses.[/quote]
Like I said, stay home and eat, Cheapo.
Then you can do your little finger trick on your dick without offending anyone.
[/quote]
.[/quote]
It doesn’t surprise me that you identify with the wimpiest wuss in that whole scene.
A Guide on Tipping
Cash for the hotel staff
Thomas Farley, a New York-based manners expert for WhatMannersMost.com, says be prepared for a variety of tips at hotels. If the hotel is a five-star property, the service expectations are greater and the tip should be, too.
Farley’s suggestions:
Hotel porter toting your bags: $2 to $3 per bag.
Room service with gratuity included on the bill: $2.
Room service without gratuity included: 20 percent of the charge.
Toiletry/towel delivery: $2.
Doorman if he hails your cab: $2 to $5.
Concierge after guest’s request: $5 to $15, depending on how difficult the task is (like procuring sold-out theater tickets).
Housekeeping: $2 to $5 per day.
Etiquette coach and trainer Constance Hoffman, of Social and Business Graces Inc. in Los Angeles, says, “Don’t leave the maid’s tip on the nightstand as that has sexual connotations. Instead, put it on the desk or a counter.”
Also, the cleaning person may change daily, so give a tip each day before leaving the hotel so the housekeeper who makes up your room will get the money.
Tipping the wait staff
The size of a restaurant gratuity depends on how well you are served, including whether your order is correct or if your server checks on you after you receive your food, says Hoffman. Don’t base your tip on the food’s taste; the server has no control over it.
Hoffman’s tipping guidelines:
Restaurant wait staff: 13 percent to 20 percent of the bill.
When your party stays through the time that the restaurant could seat and serve others, tip twice the amount. Hoffman says you should always leave a minimal tip, even with abysmal service. Tips are generally shared by the restaurant’s workers.
Takeout: Nothing is necessary. But if you receive some service, like a waiter packaging your food, then tip $1 to $2 or up to 10 percent. For sushi, tip 10 percent for its preparation, Hoffman says.
Tip jars at fast-food counters: Nothing required; it’s your call.
Travel tipping
When you’re on a trip, how much you tip can be a quandary. Here, Patricia Rossi, a Tampa, Fla.-based business etiquette expert at PatriciaRossi.com, sorts it out.
Rossi’s tipping instructions:
Cruise employees: Tipping policies vary between cruise lines, “but each one tells you when you board what is appropriate,” says Rossi.
Airport curbside check-in: $1 to $2 per bag, more for oversized bags.
Taxis: 15 percent of the fare.
Airport shuttle bus drivers: $2 to $3.
Limousine drivers: 10 percent to 20 percent of the bill.
Roadside services for a rental car: No tipping required.
Farley adds, “Roadside service is situational, like if someone changes your tire in subzero temps, you should tip them.”
Special events
With all that happens at major events like weddings and funerals, giving gratuities might be easily overlooked. Farley, the manners expert, offered these recommendations.
Wedding tips guide:
Wait staff: 15 percent to 20 percent of the catering bill.
Bartender: 10 percent of liquor bill.
Coat room/bathroom attendants: $1 per guest, paid by the host.
Disc jockey: $50 to $100.
Presiding official: Not required but not more than $100.
Altar boys: $10 to $15.
Wedding planner: $50 to $100. If it’s for the planning firm’s owner, don’t tip.
Funeral tips guideline:
Presiding official: $50 to $300 if an honorarium is not preset.
“Any tips for funeral home staff are handled by the funeral home,” Farley says. “Sometimes those fees are itemized on the bill (as a gratuity), or they can be included in the overall price that the family pays.”
Reward salon and spa workers
Many workers in the beauty business get paid a commission only or minimum wage plus a small percentage of the fee. Remember them with these gratuities suggested by etiquette coach Hoffman.
Salon/spa tipping suggestions:
Massage therapist: 10 percent to 15 percent of the charge.
Hairstylist: 10 percent to 20 percent.
Manicure or facial: 15 percent.
Barber: $2 to $3.
Don’t forget your four-legged friends:
Pet groomer: 15 percent to 20 percent.
Your best gauge is to consider the service you’re getting and to give what’s appropriate, says Hoffman. “Any tip given with a genuine smile and a ‘thank you’ is better than nothing at all,” she says.
[quote]Testy1 wrote:
Really? You don’t think there are foods unique to the states or that were created here? Ever had a Coney dog? You know, named after Coney island.
[/quote]
Which is a hot dog…and hot dogs are not American.
Next.
[quote]Edevus wrote:
[quote]Testy1 wrote:
Really? You don’t think there are foods unique to the states or that were created here? Ever had a Coney dog? You know, named after Coney island.
[/quote]
Which is a hot dog…and hot dogs are not American.
Next.[/quote]
Welllll, they kinda are American. The sausage has been around for years, ALL OVER THE WORLD. But its most likely a German immigrants that brought a version of the sausage and sauerkraut which was a staple in Germany to the US. And then intoduced the bread for the fast moving New Yorkers to eat and walk. So yes the Hot Dog is American.
[quote]four60 wrote:
[quote]Edevus wrote:
[quote]Testy1 wrote:
Really? You don’t think there are foods unique to the states or that were created here? Ever had a Coney dog? You know, named after Coney island.
[/quote]
Which is a hot dog…and hot dogs are not American.
Next.[/quote]
Welllll, they kinda are American. The sausage has been around for years, ALL OVER THE WORLD. But its most likely a German immigrants that brought a version of the sausage and sauerkraut which was a staple in Germany to the US. And then intoduced the bread for the fast moving New Yorkers to eat and walk. So yes the Hot Dog is American.[/quote]
That’s hardly making it “American food”. Same with hamburgers.
I don’t know, compare it to Spanish cuisine. Thousands of dishes and the core of the Mediterranean cuisine.
I’m just making fun of HG and his “British food” comment anyways.
[quote]Edevus wrote:
[quote]four60 wrote:
[quote]Edevus wrote:
[quote]Testy1 wrote:
Really? You don’t think there are foods unique to the states or that were created here? Ever had a Coney dog? You know, named after Coney island.
[/quote]
Which is a hot dog…and hot dogs are not American.
Next.[/quote]
Welllll, they kinda are American. The sausage has been around for years, ALL OVER THE WORLD. But its most likely a German immigrants that brought a version of the sausage and sauerkraut which was a staple in Germany to the US. And then intoduced the bread for the fast moving New Yorkers to eat and walk. So yes the Hot Dog is American.[/quote]
That’s hardly making it “American food”. Same with hamburgers.
I don’t know, compare it to Spanish cuisine. Thousands of dishes and the core of the Mediterranean cuisine.
I’m just making fun of HG and his “British food” comment anyways.
[/quote]
Thats very American we are a mixed culture so our food is a mixture of every place and every one that shows up here with a twist. We take change until it becomes something diferent but the same. Like what we did to Hawaii.
A Coney dog isn’t just a hot dog, its art.
[quote]four60 wrote:
[quote]Edevus wrote:
[quote]four60 wrote:
[quote]Edevus wrote:
[quote]Testy1 wrote:
Really? You don’t think there are foods unique to the states or that were created here? Ever had a Coney dog? You know, named after Coney island.
[/quote]
Which is a hot dog…and hot dogs are not American.
Next.[/quote]
Welllll, they kinda are American. The sausage has been around for years, ALL OVER THE WORLD. But its most likely a German immigrants that brought a version of the sausage and sauerkraut which was a staple in Germany to the US. And then intoduced the bread for the fast moving New Yorkers to eat and walk. So yes the Hot Dog is American.[/quote]
That’s hardly making it “American food”. Same with hamburgers.
I don’t know, compare it to Spanish cuisine. Thousands of dishes and the core of the Mediterranean cuisine.
I’m just making fun of HG and his “British food” comment anyways.
[/quote]
Thats very American we are a mixed culture so our food is a mixture of every place and every one that shows up here with a twist. We take change until it becomes something diferent but the same. Like what we did to Hawaii.[/quote]
Yeah, that’s the thing. USA was a colony and it has a very young history of its own, which leads to having just a light culture, which includes food.
But when one thinks about “American food”, hot dogs and burgers come to mind…but they are not really American…
[quote]Edevus wrote:
[quote]four60 wrote:
[quote]Edevus wrote:
[quote]four60 wrote:
[quote]Edevus wrote:
[quote]Testy1 wrote:
Really? You don’t think there are foods unique to the states or that were created here? Ever had a Coney dog? You know, named after Coney island.
[/quote]
Which is a hot dog…and hot dogs are not American.
Next.[/quote]
Welllll, they kinda are American. The sausage has been around for years, ALL OVER THE WORLD. But its most likely a German immigrants that brought a version of the sausage and sauerkraut which was a staple in Germany to the US. And then intoduced the bread for the fast moving New Yorkers to eat and walk. So yes the Hot Dog is American.[/quote]
That’s hardly making it “American food”. Same with hamburgers.
I don’t know, compare it to Spanish cuisine. Thousands of dishes and the core of the Mediterranean cuisine.
I’m just making fun of HG and his “British food” comment anyways.
[/quote]
Thats very American we are a mixed culture so our food is a mixture of every place and every one that shows up here with a twist. We take change until it becomes something diferent but the same. Like what we did to Hawaii.[/quote]
Yeah, that’s the thing. USA was a colony and it has a very young history of its own, which leads to having just a light culture, which includes food.
But when one thinks about “American food”, hot dogs and burgers come to mind…but they are not really American…[/quote]
Well that only depends on the place that is thinking about it. Outside the US when someone brings up “American Foods” Burgers & Hot Dogs" pop up.
If you are within the states and ask that same question it will depend on what state you are in. In the south You will get something dif that people out west or in the east.
Most with a Origin from a Homeland Country but look and taste nothing like the original base food.
All covered in Cheese.
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
A Guide on Tipping
Cash for the hotel staff
Thomas Farley, a New York-based manners expert for WhatMannersMost.com, says be prepared for a variety of tips at hotels. If the hotel is a five-star property, the service expectations are greater and the tip should be, too.
Farley’s suggestions:
Hotel porter toting your bags: $2 to $3 per bag.
Room service with gratuity included on the bill: $2.
Room service without gratuity included: 20 percent of the charge.
Toiletry/towel delivery: $2.
Doorman if he hails your cab: $2 to $5.
Concierge after guest’s request: $5 to $15, depending on how difficult the task is (like procuring sold-out theater tickets).
Housekeeping: $2 to $5 per day.
Etiquette coach and trainer Constance Hoffman, of Social and Business Graces Inc. in Los Angeles, says, “Don’t leave the maid’s tip on the nightstand as that has sexual connotations. Instead, put it on the desk or a counter.”
Also, the cleaning person may change daily, so give a tip each day before leaving the hotel so the housekeeper who makes up your room will get the money.
Tipping the wait staff
The size of a restaurant gratuity depends on how well you are served, including whether your order is correct or if your server checks on you after you receive your food, says Hoffman. Don’t base your tip on the food’s taste; the server has no control over it.
Hoffman’s tipping guidelines:
Restaurant wait staff: 13 percent to 20 percent of the bill.
When your party stays through the time that the restaurant could seat and serve others, tip twice the amount. Hoffman says you should always leave a minimal tip, even with abysmal service. Tips are generally shared by the restaurant’s workers.
Takeout: Nothing is necessary. But if you receive some service, like a waiter packaging your food, then tip $1 to $2 or up to 10 percent. For sushi, tip 10 percent for its preparation, Hoffman says.
Tip jars at fast-food counters: Nothing required; it’s your call.
Travel tipping
When you’re on a trip, how much you tip can be a quandary. Here, Patricia Rossi, a Tampa, Fla.-based business etiquette expert at PatriciaRossi.com, sorts it out.
Rossi’s tipping instructions:
Cruise employees: Tipping policies vary between cruise lines, “but each one tells you when you board what is appropriate,” says Rossi.
Airport curbside check-in: $1 to $2 per bag, more for oversized bags.
Taxis: 15 percent of the fare.
Airport shuttle bus drivers: $2 to $3.
Limousine drivers: 10 percent to 20 percent of the bill.
Roadside services for a rental car: No tipping required.
Farley adds, “Roadside service is situational, like if someone changes your tire in subzero temps, you should tip them.”
Special events
With all that happens at major events like weddings and funerals, giving gratuities might be easily overlooked. Farley, the manners expert, offered these recommendations.
Wedding tips guide:
Wait staff: 15 percent to 20 percent of the catering bill.
Bartender: 10 percent of liquor bill.
Coat room/bathroom attendants: $1 per guest, paid by the host.
Disc jockey: $50 to $100.
Presiding official: Not required but not more than $100.
Altar boys: $10 to $15.
Wedding planner: $50 to $100. If it’s for the planning firm’s owner, don’t tip.
Funeral tips guideline:
Presiding official: $50 to $300 if an honorarium is not preset.
“Any tips for funeral home staff are handled by the funeral home,” Farley says. “Sometimes those fees are itemized on the bill (as a gratuity), or they can be included in the overall price that the family pays.”
Reward salon and spa workers
Many workers in the beauty business get paid a commission only or minimum wage plus a small percentage of the fee. Remember them with these gratuities suggested by etiquette coach Hoffman.
Salon/spa tipping suggestions:
Massage therapist: 10 percent to 15 percent of the charge.
Hairstylist: 10 percent to 20 percent.
Manicure or facial: 15 percent.
Barber: $2 to $3.
Don’t forget your four-legged friends:
Pet groomer: 15 percent to 20 percent.
Your best gauge is to consider the service you’re getting and to give what’s appropriate, says Hoffman. “Any tip given with a genuine smile and a ‘thank you’ is better than nothing at all,” she says.
[/quote]
Interesting. Looks like I’ve been over tipping people in the US of A. Goddam!!
Normally, I would tip based on service and I can be quite generous with my dough. My friends are usually annoyed when I leave big tips to waiters. But it’s just because the service was excellente.
It won’t matter what country I’m visiting/living. If I’m waiting for the food for too long, or the waiters/waitress take their time to come back to my table to get my order for drinks or food, they don’t smile, no eye contact, blah blah… well if the service is really not that great and the food tastes like shit, they won’t get my money.
And I’ll make sure that whoever is with me at the table doesn’t tip either.
Sue me.
[quote]Edevus wrote:
[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
[quote]shorty_blitz wrote:
Like I said carry on doing what you are doing. If you like your system the way it is then so be it. That’s why you do it your way and we do it ours. I just don’t like it.
[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
[quote]shorty_blitz wrote:
The norm here is you get a BASE salary and the rest you make in commissions and the sky is the limit. Do you live in a fucking jungle? I’m done with this thread.
[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
[quote]shorty_blitz wrote:
[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
Many sales people are on straight commission and 0 wage, retard. Tipping encourages better service just the same and is an expected form of compensation for service rendered as we do not include mandatory service charges.
[/quote]
0 wage hahahahaha WTF, is this really true wow
This would never happen here in the UK… and I’m the retard?![/quote]
I give my sales guys options. Only one took salary. I paid him 70k last year. Had he chosen commission, his percentage would have been exactly double. You are retarded, or you suck and need to just skate by. 0 salary, they still earn a wage retard.[/quote]
[/quote]Except what you don’t realize is even on a split, common here too, your commission percentages are always lower than straight contract and if you are worth your salt you are better off taking commission. I know I don’t want my guy growing balls and switching, 70k out of my pocket right there. His loss. I live in the currently most prosperous region of the most prosperous nation this world has ever seen, retard.
[/quote]
[/quote]Good thing the post was directed at Americans. FWIW, I wouldn’t tip for British food either, you’d have to pay me to eat that so I see your conundrum.
[/quote]
“British food”.
You’re talking like if there was something like “American food”.
[/quote]
Totally irrelevant.
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
Too cheap to part with a few bucks for a hard working waiter/waitress?
Stay home and eat.[/quote]
This (rubs forefinger and thumb together) is the world’s smallest violin playing just for the waitresses.[/quote]
Like I said, stay home and eat, Cheapo.
Then you can do your little finger trick on your dick without offending anyone.
[/quote]
.[/quote]
It doesn’t surprise me that you identify with the wimpiest wuss in that whole scene.
[/quote]
Actually I thought Mr Blonde was better; loyal, impulsive, liked Remy Martin cognac, good sense of humour etc
[quote]DarkNinjaa wrote:
It won’t matter what country I’m visiting/living. If I’m waiting for the food for too long, or the waiters/waitress take their time to come back to my table to get my order for drinks or food, they don’t smile, no eye contact, blah blah… well if the service is really not that great and the food taste like shit, they won’t get my money. [/quote]
10 bucks says you’ve never worked in a restaurant.
I’d say 9 times out of 10 I hear something like this it’s because people have never worked in a restaurant setting. I don’t know what you’ve been told growing up, but waiters and waitresses are not responsible for HOW the food is cooked, how FAST the food is cooked, and so many other things.
I love the people that believe the world is going to cater itself to you. Yes, the wait staff is supposed to do their job to their best ability, but their job is to keep your drinks coming and to basically ONLY relay orders between you and the cooking staff. NOTHING TO DO WITH THE FOOD. So I understand the “quality” of wait service, but the rest is irrelevant and moot.
Again, it’s simply more justifications for being cheap/shitty people.
People sometimes.
[quote]SSC wrote:
[quote]DarkNinjaa wrote:
It won’t matter what country I’m visiting/living. If I’m waiting for the food for too long, or the waiters/waitress take their time to come back to my table to get my order for drinks or food, they don’t smile, no eye contact, blah blah… well if the service is really not that great and the food taste like shit, they won’t get my money. [/quote]
10 bucks says you’ve never worked in a restaurant.
I’d say 9 times out of 10 I hear something like this it’s because people have never worked in a restaurant setting. I don’t know what you’ve been told growing up, but waiters and waitresses are not responsible for HOW the food is cooked, how FAST the food is cooked, and so many other things.
I love the people that believe the world is going to cater itself to you. Yes, the wait staff is supposed to do their job to their best ability, but their job is to keep your drinks coming and to basically ONLY relay orders between you and the cooking staff. NOTHING TO DO WITH THE FOOD. So I understand the “quality” of wait service, but the rest is irrelevant and moot.
Again, it’s simply more justifications for being cheap/shitty people.
People sometimes.[/quote]
So tipping amount shouldn’t be representative of the quality of the food?
Wow, why are you so offended? Lol. Are you a waiter? Damn. Stop calling me cheap. You offend me 
Well if the food is taking long to come, I expect the staff to come to me and tells me what’s up. If they take my order and disappear for a good 40 mins and only turn up later with the food, they ain’t getting my money. And that has happened to me before.
Yes, I got it wrong with the food taking too long or tastes like crap, yes it has nothing to do with the waiter, but the rest you’ve quoted, I stand by it.
And by the way I waited tables when I was younger. I found it kinda boring, I must say. It was crap pocket money but at least I learnt a great deal about good customer service and how you wouldn’t want to be treated as a patron or as staff.
That’s why whenever I go to a restaurant, as soon as I enter the premises, I expect good service. You take too long to serve me, no eye contact, no communication and smile and Bam! No tip, mama!! I ain’t cheap but I don’t share my hard earned money with people who don’t deserve it.