The literature I’ve come across doesn’t directly state it, but seems to suggest that if your taking in enough of the nutrients that phytic acid inhibits anyway, then the “anti-” effect will be balanced out. I would think most of us here take in more than enough of our daily needs for iron, magnesium, etc., what with most taking some kind of multivitamin and following a sound diet.
Actually, some of the stuff I’m coming across seems to suggest that phytic acid might even be a good thing (as a member of the phytochemicals family), acting as an antioxidant of sorts and regulating the amount of nutrients our body absorbs in a positive manner (i.e. preventing over-absorption, toxicity). So who knows…there’s conflicting evidence for everything these days 
Well, since Goldberg hasn’t said it, I really think all this phytic acid/anti-nutrient stuff is thinking way too much.
oats + water + cinnamon
just eat the damn oats as nature intended
I"ve thrown oats in the blender but only in a hurry.
K, yeah I’m gonna have to go with Dave here, especially considering the fact that I’m the guiltiest one…thanks for the reality check, lol. I’m done with this thread now.
Oats contain phytic acid, as well as trypsin inhibitors. Not that it makes a shittin difference unless your entire diet is from oats.
I am admittedly a late bloomer when it comes to eating oatmeal. I only recently figured out that those protein-oatmeal quick breakfast recipes are actually good (if you get your proportions of ingredients right).
Since it is summer, I have been reluctant to eat hot oats, so I have been interested in this thread, especialy in the comments that you should eat it cold like any other cold cereal. I tried it and it’s good, it’s basically granola without the sugar and oils that granola has. YUM!!!
Somehow, that wasn’t as obvious to me as it should have been…
I use 8oz. of water,1/2 cup of 1 minute oats and 2 big scoops of whey protien and put it in the blender.Excellent breakfast.Oatmeal is probably the most perfect carb.
Well, if the whole phytic acid thing was true it would be a good reason not to eat oats, at least from a health perspective.
A lot more research probably needs to be done on the matter.
Anyone have any links to stuff?
-Zulu
“Well, if the whole phytic acid thing was true it would be a good reason not to eat oats, at least from a health perspective”
You’re not getting the picture. The antinutrient content of grains and cereals is a well researched and documented phenomena.
There’s no question about it’s validity among the scientific community, the question is only if there’s any real problem for the average population. The main reason there isn’t is because almost no one is eating unrefined grains and processed white floor loses most anti nutrients.
Also, You can’t digest raw grains and cereals.
Phytate is a very good reason not to have a significant part of your caloric intake from oats. And furthermore, oats are one of the worst cereals in what regards this matter.
Here’s some research for you to read:
http://www.thepaleodiet.com/articles.htm
Read this one:
- Cordain L. Cereal grains: humanity?s double edged sword. World Rev Nutr Diet 1999; 84:19-73.
And Zulu, are you the same Zulu that posted at the weightrainer board?
Yeah, same Zulu.
I’m perfectly aware of the phytate content in most grains (or the bran thereof) and in unfermented soy products. What I’m interested in knowing is if there are potentially beneficial side effects. Perhaps we don’t have the whole story just yet.
I’ll check out those links, thanks.
Cheers,
-Zulu
What specific part of the research should I be reading? I skimmed the link and didn’t see anything about phytates.
-Zulu
Zulu,
It’s the one I mentioned, n? 16.
It’s quite long but if you assimilate all that you’ll be quite informed on it.
I’ll read it through shortly, hadn’t noticed it before.
(Sorry if the article mentions this) but I believe soaking most grains, legumes, soy products will remove almost all phytic acid present. Without the presence of phytic acids, many grains seem to be quite healthy. Your thoughts?
BTW, have you read Nourishing Traditions? I think you’d love it.
-Zulu
I just read it and I couldn’t find anything special in it.
The fact that grains lack vitamins is no problem in itself, that’s why you should never consume only one kind of food.
The fact that grains have low bioavability in some vitamins and minerals can be remedied through fat intake and enzymes.
The fact that grains have phytic acid can be remedied through overnight soaking.
-Zulu
"The fact that grains have phytic acid can be remedied through overnight soaking. "
Zulu,if you read the article you should have read that most antinutrients remain active trough the cooking and digestive process and soaking does not get rid of them. Do you have anything to back that up? I have never heard of it.
I eat oatmeal because it makes huge turds when i take a shit. Yall think too much. Get off the internet and go lift some weights. I wonder sometimes if some of yall even lift weights.
Have you read Fallon’s ‘Nourishing Traditions’?
Hey Goldberg, fuck off. Some people care more about not getting cancer than lifting a meaningless amount of weight.
-Zulu
Goldberg, wonderfull contribution to the topic. Feel free to enlighten us on what your highness feels are valid and worthy discussion subjects.
Have you read Fallon’s ‘Nourishing Traditions’?
Zulu, no I haven’t. Can you breefly explain how does phytic acid get deactivated by soaking, if that’s your source?
"Hey Goldberg, fuck off. Some people care more about not getting cancer than lifting a meaningless amount of weight.
-Zulu"
Ditto.