I’m sort of enjoying Rampage’s agony, his bigger-is-better strategy has blown up in his face.
Marcus Jones may be the exception though, he looks like he could break someone in half if he’s not careful, though he seems to have terrible conditioning.
It will be interesting to see him fight, maybe against Roy…
[quote]50_Caliber wrote:
I’m sort of enjoying Rampage’s agony, his bigger-is-better strategy has blown up in his face.
Marcus Jones may be the exception though, he looks like he could break someone in half if he’s not careful, though he seems to have terrible conditioning.
It will be interesting to see him fight, maybe against Roy…[/quote]
Great coaching by Rashad Evans. Great commentary by a Rampage Jackson, horrible coaching though.
i think Rampage is truly a great example of a phenominal fighter who cannot teach what he knows.
honestly, i would probably threaten to quit if i got stuck on his team.
[quote]cycobushmaster wrote:
i think Rampage is truly a great example of a phenominal fighter who cannot teach what he knows.
honestly, i would probably threaten to quit if i got stuck on his team.
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He’s a phenomenal fighter who doesn’t care about teaching others…it’s all about Rampage. Oh,and Kimbo…cause that’s “his boy” ya know.
Rampage is a terrible coach. Late for his own guys’ fight (at least he showed up, unlike Bisping), doesn’t help his team, and doesn’t really give any advice. Great example of a great fighter/bad coach, just as it has shown in a lot of sports.
Demico was actually winning the fight up until the point when he got choked out. Seems like Rampage’s guys are going off of their own talents and skills.
Classy by Rashad to come over to Demico and pat him on the back and get his spirits up. That’s what Rampage needs to do. Rashad really works with his guys and is trying to make them better.
Anyone notice when Rampage was in his car he was talking on a flip phone, then at the end of the show in the team coaches meeting, he pulls out an iPhone? Found that to be kind of odd.
I felt nerdy because I jumped off the couch and yelled “yea, son!” when he locked on that anaconda. I was just happy to see technique, a submission or a finish, but to have all three? My head explodes.
Oh, and Rampage is edited to look hilariously bad on this show. I’m sure he’s just regular bad in real life.
“breath! get up!” repeat
These guys are in the house for what? 6 weeks? There’s really no “coaching” going on. The athlete’s skill and conditioning accounts for probably 75% of his fight. Strategy maybe 25%. Even then, strategy is only going to matter if the skill and conditioning levels are close.
You think Kimbo is going to learn a fucking ground game in 6 months when he couldn’t do it in 2-3 years? All of these guys have been training somewhere for YEARS, many in well known camps and with well known fighters. The bulk of their actual training is done.
At this point it’s just a matter of walking through the motions, maintaining your conditioning, and strategy. What a coach yells out during a fight probably won’t be heard anyway. We also only have the perspective of what’s on camera to go by. By using that it’s easy to see what Rampage does for maintaining conditioning for a fight and what Rashad does.
Rampage is a fighter’s fighter. Get in there and spar, roll around…he’s very event specific with his peak prep. Which is fine, many athletes in many sports do this. The problem is getting hurt or movement overload. A baseball player should hit balls. Well, if that’s all you do chances are you’re going to hurt something in the shoulder or elbow.
Rashad’s camp does a lot of strength & conditioning drills. He has been coached very well in that aspect. His peak prep is much more about maintaining physical attributes: speed, strength, power, etc…with some skill time.
I know we will all bash Rampage for his picks, but he went with what he knew he could prep. Big dudes who haven’t fought as much? Diamonds in the rough? These guys might need more time under the hammer and less time jumping on medicine balls at this stage in the game. In the end it’s all for good TV and Rampage knew this. A 2-2 record doesn’t make for great TV…but an 0-3 record makes for great TV and an angry Rampage.
I think Rampage (and Dana) knew way ahead of time that doing a show just with HWs can’t be successful relying only on the fighters themselves because in general HWs suck compared to the other weight classes. They gas, their skill level is lower, etc…again in general terms. Watching this season I’m much more interested in Rampage v Rashad talking smack and ripping up doors then the fighters…well except for Kimbo and Roy as they are good TV.
[quote]Rasslore wrote:
I felt nerdy because I jumped off the couch and yelled “yea, son!” when he locked on that anaconda. I was just happy to see technique, a submission or a finish, but to have all three? My head explodes.
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Lol, I didn’t yell but at as soon as soon as he escaped and started moving for the head I was hoping he’d go for one and he didn’t disappoint.
I also thought it was hilarious how Rampage was flipping out constantly while checking for texts and shit on his phone. That guy is such a fucking ass-clown I don’t think I can ever have any respect for him.
With 2 terrible seasons of coaching and the whole A-team movie fiasco I’m kind of thinking Rampage may be done for good in the fight game. That and the whole if I lose I’m going to drive my car into people.
Dude, Kimbo’s body way out of porportion (did anyone notice this coming form a BB standpoint). His legs are tiny compared to his upperbody. Big fat boy litterally pushed him around the ring. It is good to have a great upperbody but but a persons power comes form the legs and hips which Kimbo has none of. My wifes legs have more muscle on them. Rampage flat out is not a leader, he is expected to lead these guys and all he cares about is bickering with Rashad.
[quote]hardcore99 wrote:
Dude, Kimbo’s body way out of porportion (did anyone notice this coming form a BB standpoint). His legs are tiny compared to his upperbody. Big fat boy litterally pushed him around the ring. It is good to have a great upperbody but but a persons power comes form the legs and hips which Kimbo has none of. My wifes legs have more muscle on them. Rampage flat out is not a leader, he is expected to lead these guys and all he cares about is bickering with Rashad.[/quote]
He is definitely top heavy. If I only saw his upper-body and was told he was 6’2, I would guess he had to be 250 pounds at the lightest. The guy weighs 230.
This episode only further cemented my view that Rampage is an awful coach. Showing up late and not giving Demico as much time to get warmed up and psyched up and then getting upset at the team leader for not wrapping Demico’s hands and getting him started.
And then just walking out on Demico when he lost after giving a fairly good performance in the octagon. Rampage’s value on the show is pretty much only for humor. I just wonder what it would have been like if Demico had been on Rashad’s team instead of Rampage’s.
Oh, and I just have to say Goddamn at Marcus Jones. I know they’re all big, powerful guys, but from what they showed of him on the show last night he just seems like a wrecking ball. Given some training and some serious conditioning, he could probably do some serious damage in the HW division. And he certainly seems eager to learn.
[quote]Haavik wrote:
Oh, and I just have to say Goddamn at Marcus Jones. I know they’re all big, powerful guys, but from what they showed of him on the show last night he just seems like a wrecking ball. Given some training and some serious conditioning, he could probably do some serious damage in the HW division. And he certainly seems eager to learn.[/quote]
However, there is a reason he didn’t stick in the NFL. Almost anybody picked in the first round is going to be a physical freak. But despite his crazy combination of size, speed and athleticism, he never did much in the NFL. I think the show reveals a little bit about why that may be the case.
I can’t believe the comments about being glad Rampage isn’t fighting. Who cares if he’s a d-bag or a bad coach. How can any fight fan not want to see him fight. He generally puts on a pretty good show.
I really dislike Frank Mir whenever he opens his mouth, but certainly won’t miss one of his fights. I absolutely cringe everytime Tito opens his mouth, but I generally like watching him fight. Frank Shamrock, both Diaz brothers…same thing.
[quote]dhickey wrote:
I can’t believe the comments about being glad Rampage isn’t fighting. Who cares if he’s a d-bag or a bad coach. How can any fight fan not want to see him fight. He generally puts on a pretty good show.
I really dislike Frank Mir whenever he opens his mouth, but certainly won’t miss one of his fights. I absolutely cringe everytime Tito opens his mouth, but I generally like watching him fight. Frank Shamrock, both Diaz brothers…same thing.[/quote]
True…but none of this matters when Rampage himself doesn’t want to fight. At least that’s his thoughts for now. In the end,if he does come back to fight…more people will tune in,whether it be to see him get smashed or smash someone. He’ll be the love/hate fighter just like Hughes,Tito,Lesnar,etc.
I’m thoroughly enjoying this TUF. I hardly watch it in the past, but this rivalry between Evans and Jackson is funny. My GF was pissed off when she found out Jackson is pulling out of the fight 'cause she’s looking forward seeing that fight, lol. Both coaches are funny in their own way but Jackson’s humor gets kind of old. He makes jokes that reminds me of the kind of jokes we me make when we’re kids. Anyway, the fight last night was a good match up. I felt both guys had equal chance of winning. Too bad for Demico, he looks like he has good potential. He was definitely better than Brendan in my opinion. Lastly, I’m really glad they’re not showing much drama in the house as I really don’t give a shit about that. Especially the pranks people pull on each other in the past TUF.
Although all the prelim fights haven’t happened yet, I am convinced Lesnar is light years ahead of any of the HW’s on TUF, and would easily defeat any of them.
First off, WTF on the weigh-ins???
I thought J-Dub would win, I didn’t except him to do what he did to Wes. Funny how he was running his mouth constantly, then he loses and becomes humble.
What do you guys think about Matt Mitrione’s shoulder? Think he’s faking it? Shooting hoops one day, grappling another day, then it hurts periodically? Not adding up.
When Rashad called Rampage selfish, that actually made Rampage pause for a second. And not helping out his guys after a fight again is pretty weak on Rampage’s part, as well as his coaching staff. If Rampage doesn’t check on his guys, the coaches need to, as Rashad pointed out.
Marcus is really sensitive. Rashad was right, he didn’t promise Marcus he would fight next, Marcus put words into his mouth. I think for motivation, all Rampage has to do with Marcus is right before his fight, tell him someone destroyed his flowers back home, that should get him fired up.
Who cares if his coaches dont check on their guys people know Page isnt a coach. Mitrione is just a baby it may hurt but hes being a pussy. Marcus looked pissed hes my dark horse for the comp man, that’s a big dude to piss off.
Wasn’t Sims supposed to be kinda good? Dude’s had like 40 fights and has fought some of the best…well gotten hammered by some of the best.
Has he just been slumming it since his UFC days?
I see he fights a lot…well up until '09. Fights in '08: June, June, June, November. Fights in '07: February, March, May, June, July, Septebmer. Fights in '06: March, April, June, June, September, September, October, October, December.
He’s been putting food on the table…
Is it me or could they do this show a whole lot better? I mean who cares about someones shower habits, or who might be faking a shoulder injury? How much damage someone can do to the house wall interests me far less than how much damage they can do in the cage. I’d much rather see these guys training, fighting and maybe performing other sorts of athletic events. I’m just sick of the ongoing soap opera that’s become the Ultimate Fighter program.