UFC 162

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Anderson does a little taunting to everyone he fights.

It’s just that he goes overboard and refuses to engage with guys who are submission threats. Just look at his worst instances of clowning:

-Thales Leites
-Demian Maia
-Chris Weidman

With those guys he kept very far away, and just hit them with flashy strikes (especially kicks) from the outside and would circle the ring and move back as soon as they tried to get into closer range. It looks like he clowning and taking risks, but really his hips and lower body are far out of reach for a takedown, which is what he’s really scared of with those guys. I mean, he was explicitly telling Weidman to stand up with him and not take him down.

The only guy out of the three who didn’t let him pull off that strategy fully was Weidman. It wasn’t the same as Silva’s fights with Maia/Leites, in that Chris was landing his strikes.

Also, every time Anderson faces the prospect of fighting a good wrestler/grappler he is strangely uncooperative before the fight. Think about Chael 2, what Dan Henderson said about Silva turning down a rematch with him, and his no show of a press conference for the Weidman fight. Not to mention his managers and even him saying Weidman wasn’t ready for a shot, but also saying they would be open to fighting Nick Diaz of all people (and Luke Rockhold, Cung Le…).

DON’T GET ME WRONG: Seeing what Anderson did to Dan Henderson, a great wrestler, with none of the clowning around, I think Anderson should have been able to beat Weidman, or at least had a more competitive fight (Chris could have got a sub or a decision even if Anderson fought him like he fought Dan). And until the knockout it really looked like Chris was in trouble. He was definitely getting played to a certain degree, even if he was landing and scoring–he wasn’t going for the takedown. But I don’t think that Silva’ “clowning around” was because he took Weidman lightly, I think it was the other way around. Anything to avoid being taken down, including clowning with his hands down.

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[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:

The other guys i cant stand, ESPECIALLY the Diaz bros. First, ive always found their style pretty boring so im not sure why theyre so popular in the first place, (maybe because they keeps it realz) but their personalities and attitudes are so fucking unbearable.

They are also the absolute WORST sore losers in all of MMA. The excuses these guys come up with after every loss and the petty bullshit Nick pulls to get attention are just embarrassing.

Look up Nate’s interview with BJ Penn.com after Thompson smashed him. Itd be outrageously hilarious if it wasnt so infuriating. [/quote]

Haha

yeah I’ll never understand why MMA fans consider them to be so authentic and real. In any other sport they’d be looked at as whiners. Nick seems to whine about rule changes and boring fighters whenever he loses. He had way too much hype for a guy who hadn’t faced a top wrestler in years until GSP.

Nate seemed a little better than Nick until that interview about his fight with Thompson. His own corner threw the towel in, no one think the stoppage was bad, but he’s making fun of what Josh was hitting him with during the fight?

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[quote]DN90 wrote:
Anderson does a little taunting to everyone he fights.

It’s just that he goes overboard and refuses to engage with guys who are submission threats. Just look at his worst instances of clowning:

-Thales Leites
-Demian Maia
-Chris Weidman

With those guys he kept very far away, and just hit them with flashy strikes (especially kicks) from the outside and would circle the ring and move back as soon as they tried to get into closer range. It looks like he clowning and taking risks, but really his hips and lower body are far out of reach for a takedown, which is what he’s really scared of with those guys. I mean, he was explicitly telling Weidman to stand up with him and not take him down.

The only guy out of the three who didn’t let him pull off that strategy fully was Weidman. It wasn’t the same as Silva’s fights with Maia/Leites, in that Chris was landing his strikes.

Also, every time Anderson faces the prospect of fighting a good wrestler/grappler he is strangely uncooperative before the fight. Think about Chael 2, what Dan Henderson said about Silva turning down a rematch with him, and his no show of a press conference for the Weidman fight. Not to mention his managers and even him saying Weidman wasn’t ready for a shot, but also saying they would be open to fighting Nick Diaz of all people (and Luke Rockhold, Cung Le…).

DON’T GET ME WRONG: Seeing what Anderson did to Dan Henderson, a great wrestler, with none of the clowning around, I think Anderson should have been able to beat Weidman, or at least had a more competitive fight (Chris could have got a sub or a decision even if Anderson fought him like he fought Dan). And until the knockout it really looked like Chris was in trouble. He was definitely getting played to a certain degree, even if he was landing and scoring–he wasn’t going for the takedown. But I don’t think that Silva’ “clowning around” was because he took Weidman lightly, I think it was the other way around. Anything to avoid being taken down, including clowning with his hands down. [/quote]

I disagree with this in the case of the Weidman fight. He was clowning for the sake of clowning. He wasnt trying to keep distance as he did in the Leites and Maia fights. He even backed up against the cage and let Chris come in on him. He stood in front of him slapping his legs inviting the TD attempt. He barely used any foot work at all.

Bottom line is, whether he just didnt give a fuck, was drunk, or was really that cocky, he just clowned to a ridiculous degree that anyone could have caught him that night.

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[quote]DN90 wrote:

[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:

The other guys i cant stand, ESPECIALLY the Diaz bros. First, ive always found their style pretty boring so im not sure why theyre so popular in the first place, (maybe because they keeps it realz) but their personalities and attitudes are so fucking unbearable.

They are also the absolute WORST sore losers in all of MMA. The excuses these guys come up with after every loss and the petty bullshit Nick pulls to get attention are just embarrassing.

Look up Nate’s interview with BJ Penn.com after Thompson smashed him. Itd be outrageously hilarious if it wasnt so infuriating. [/quote]

Haha

yeah I’ll never understand why MMA fans consider them to be so authentic and real. In any other sport they’d be looked at as whiners. Nick seems to whine about rule changes and boring fighters whenever he loses. He had way too much hype for a guy who hadn’t faced a top wrestler in years until GSP.

Nate seemed a little better than Nick until that interview about his fight with Thompson. His own corner threw the towel in, no one think the stoppage was bad, but he’s making fun of what Josh was hitting him with during the fight?[/quote]

Agreed on all counts.

I love how Nick went off and started WAR MMA. His “vision” of what MMA should be. Essentially its just Pride rules; fights in a ring, no elbows, etc. The excuses he uses are great too; Combat was meant to be done in a ring, no elbows forces the guy on top to create space to punch, giving the guy on bottom more opportunities.

Essentially he is trying to create an organization that will tailor to his skill set cause he doesnt like getting held down and outgrappled by wrestlers.

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YOU THINK IM AFRAID OF YOU NICK DIAZZZ?? Fucking guy cried about not finishing high school after loosing. Fucking trash

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[quote]Jlabs wrote:
YOU THINK IM AFRAID OF YOU NICK DIAZZZ?? Fucking guy cried about not finishing high school after loosing. Fucking trash
[/quote]

I loved the attention whore “it dont matter cause im probably going to jail for tax evasion, thats right ive never paid a dime in taxes”

I dont believe it for a second by the way, but it was hilarious.

KEEPS IT REAL YALL

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[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:

[quote]DN90 wrote:

[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:

The other guys i cant stand, ESPECIALLY the Diaz bros. First, ive always found their style pretty boring so im not sure why theyre so popular in the first place, (maybe because they keeps it realz) but their personalities and attitudes are so fucking unbearable.

They are also the absolute WORST sore losers in all of MMA. The excuses these guys come up with after every loss and the petty bullshit Nick pulls to get attention are just embarrassing.

Look up Nate’s interview with BJ Penn.com after Thompson smashed him. Itd be outrageously hilarious if it wasnt so infuriating. [/quote]

Haha

yeah I’ll never understand why MMA fans consider them to be so authentic and real. In any other sport they’d be looked at as whiners. Nick seems to whine about rule changes and boring fighters whenever he loses. He had way too much hype for a guy who hadn’t faced a top wrestler in years until GSP.

Nate seemed a little better than Nick until that interview about his fight with Thompson. His own corner threw the towel in, no one think the stoppage was bad, but he’s making fun of what Josh was hitting him with during the fight?[/quote]

Agreed on all counts.

I love how Nick went off and started WAR MMA. His “vision” of what MMA should be. Essentially its just Pride rules; fights in a ring, no elbows, etc. The excuses he uses are great too; Combat was meant to be done in a ring, no elbows forces the guy on top to create space to punch, giving the guy on bottom more opportunities.

Essentially he is trying to create an organization that will tailor to his skill set cause he doesnt like getting held down and outgrappled by wrestlers. [/quote]

I think Nick Diaz is a douche but PRIDE was head-and-shoulders above UFC in terms of…fucking everything.

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[quote]Totenkopf wrote:

[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:

[quote]DN90 wrote:

[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:

The other guys i cant stand, ESPECIALLY the Diaz bros. First, ive always found their style pretty boring so im not sure why theyre so popular in the first place, (maybe because they keeps it realz) but their personalities and attitudes are so fucking unbearable.

They are also the absolute WORST sore losers in all of MMA. The excuses these guys come up with after every loss and the petty bullshit Nick pulls to get attention are just embarrassing.

Look up Nate’s interview with BJ Penn.com after Thompson smashed him. Itd be outrageously hilarious if it wasnt so infuriating. [/quote]

Haha

yeah I’ll never understand why MMA fans consider them to be so authentic and real. In any other sport they’d be looked at as whiners. Nick seems to whine about rule changes and boring fighters whenever he loses. He had way too much hype for a guy who hadn’t faced a top wrestler in years until GSP.

Nate seemed a little better than Nick until that interview about his fight with Thompson. His own corner threw the towel in, no one think the stoppage was bad, but he’s making fun of what Josh was hitting him with during the fight?[/quote]

Agreed on all counts.

I love how Nick went off and started WAR MMA. His “vision” of what MMA should be. Essentially its just Pride rules; fights in a ring, no elbows, etc. The excuses he uses are great too; Combat was meant to be done in a ring, no elbows forces the guy on top to create space to punch, giving the guy on bottom more opportunities.

Essentially he is trying to create an organization that will tailor to his skill set cause he doesnt like getting held down and outgrappled by wrestlers. [/quote]

I think Nick Diaz is a douche but PRIDE was head-and-shoulders above UFC in terms of…fucking everything.[/quote]

I disagree, but its all a matter of opinion so i wont really argue that UFC is any better/worse. Today’s UFC is far superior as an organization in my opinion.