That was some Matrix-level shit.
That aside, this was a surprisingly good main card. Really impressed with Fitch and his new willingness to pass guard and submission hunt. This was his second most exciting fight, next to that KO Hendricks gave him. Respect.
Holy shit does Texeira have some brutal GnP. I honestly think that doctor saved Maldonado’s career.
This was one of the more entertaining cards I’ve watched as of recently.
Phil Davis definitely rebounded off of that loss to Rashad Evans and is looking better than ever. His wrestling is as nasty as ever. Demian Maia’s jiu-jitsu is always horrifying as well.
Oh, and anybody watch the undercard bouts on FX? I wonder how much weight Gleison Tibau cuts. That guy is a MASSIVE lightweight fighter.
[quote]rundymc wrote:
That was some Matrix-level shit.
That aside, this was a surprisingly good main card. Really impressed with Fitch and his new willingness to pass guard and submission hunt. This was his second most exciting fight, next to that KO Hendricks gave him. Respect.
Holy shit does Texeira have some brutal GnP. I honestly think that doctor saved Maldonado’s career.[/quote]
Fitch’s fight with GSP was pretty exciting and the Mike Pierce fight was decentish too.
[quote]rundymc wrote:
That was some Matrix-level shit.
That aside, this was a surprisingly good main card. Really impressed with Fitch and his new willingness to pass guard and submission hunt. This was his second most exciting fight, next to that KO Hendricks gave him. Respect.
Holy shit does Texeira have some brutal GnP. I honestly think that doctor saved Maldonado’s career.[/quote]
I say bring on Jones vs. Teixeira!
mockery…
The main event fight was kind of weird-- I feel like I should have been impressed but it just felt underwhelming. Especially after such a great card. Everybody knew the fight would end up like that, and it’s not like this fight really makes you admire Silva more than you already did.
He really does need to face either GSP or Jon Jones. Those are the only compelling fights that Anderson could have anymore.
Ground and pounding a guy with basically no ground game dos not make you anywhere near a fight with Jon Bones Jones…
Yeah, Silva is a great fighter no question. I really enjoyed watching him take Bonnar out. But Jon Jones is too big and his ground game is on a higher level than silva’s. This is a man who dominates Lightheavy’s. If Sonnon beat up Silva for over 4 rounds can anyone imagine what Jones would do to him? Usually the person who moves up to fight the champion at the higher weight class loses. Silva/Jones would be no exception. And Silva/GSP would go the same way with the bigger man winning.
Everyone should stay at their own weight and forget about taking on the champ at the next higher weight class.
[quote]on edge wrote:
I don’t see a thing wrong with your post did you edit it?[/quote]
Yeah.
My brain was in German mode. I was making shit load of mistakeS here and there.
Silva made Bonnar look like an amateur, I felt sorry for him. Also, very happy Big Nog won after coming back from a huge injury!
Main event was a fucking joke as expected. Silva was just having fun out there.
Most entertaining parts:
-Texeira demolishing Maldonado with his brutal Gnp;
-Story nose bleed from Maia’s vicious tight headlock;
-Herman ‘‘jiu jitsu doesn’t work’’ inevitably fucking up his ground defence vs Minotauro;
-Fitch breaking out of Silva’s submissions and kicking his ass in return.
UFC 153 was spectacular.
Anderson Silva’s performance alone was something to behold.
What a genius move, done on pure instinct I guess, sticking to the cage.
On a superficial level, it seemed he just wanted to show of; but this really displayed how profound and deep his intuitive understanding of martial arts goes.
I don’t see how GSP could defeat this man.
Erick Silva is, like Fitch said, just not there yet.
Glover T. has vicious hands.
Rony vs Sam S. was a fun fight!
Sauber, Finsterschleicherin!
well, I got to see the recap video of the fight. Is anyone in agreement that we might be seeing one of the greatest fighters ever? He is starting to take on Ali, Bruce Lee status to me. From the recap I saw simply crazy.
[quote]ZEB wrote:
Yeah, Silva is a great fighter no question. I really enjoyed watching him take Bonnar out. But Jon Jones is too big and his ground game is on a higher level than silva’s. This is a man who dominates Lightheavy’s. If Sonnon beat up Silva for over 4 rounds can anyone imagine what Jones would do to him? Usually the person who moves up to fight the champion at the higher weight class loses. Silva/Jones would be no exception. And Silva/GSP would go the same way with the bigger man winning.
Everyone should stay at their own weight and forget about taking on the champ at the next higher weight class.[/quote]
I wouldn’t say he necessarily has the better ground game. It wasn’t that long ago that he had trouble passing Bader’s guard, and of course there was that little mistake against Vitor (granted he fixed it right after). Silva’s good at holding people from his back and minimizing damage, as well as threatening with reversals; I believe the latter is why Chael was hesitant to capitalize on that full mount in the second fight. I’m not saying Silva outright wins a Jones fight, but I don’t think its so cut and dried in Jon’s favor.
On the topic of the first Chael fight, I was of the opinion that Chael steam-rolled him on skill and guts alone, until I dislocated a rib last week. I wouldn’t know how it affects your striking, but it sure as hell restricts your grappling, particularly of your back.
[quote]rundymc wrote:
[quote]ZEB wrote:
Yeah, Silva is a great fighter no question. I really enjoyed watching him take Bonnar out. But Jon Jones is too big and his ground game is on a higher level than silva’s. This is a man who dominates Lightheavy’s. If Sonnon beat up Silva for over 4 rounds can anyone imagine what Jones would do to him? Usually the person who moves up to fight the champion at the higher weight class loses. Silva/Jones would be no exception. And Silva/GSP would go the same way with the bigger man winning.
Everyone should stay at their own weight and forget about taking on the champ at the next higher weight class.[/quote]
I wouldn’t say he necessarily has the better ground game. It wasn’t that long ago that he had trouble passing Bader’s guard, and of course there was that little mistake against Vitor (granted he fixed it right after). Silva’s good at holding people from his back and minimizing damage, as well as threatening with reversals; I believe the latter is why Chael was hesitant to capitalize on that full mount in the second fight. I’m not saying Silva outright wins a Jones fight, but I don’t think its so cut and dried in Jon’s favor.
On the topic of the first Chael fight, I was of the opinion that Chael steam-rolled him on skill and guts alone, until I dislocated a rib last week. I wouldn’t know how it affects your striking, but it sure as hell restricts your grappling, particularly of your back.[/quote]
I think Silva has a “more developed” or “more technical” ground game than Jones. Possibly even by an order of magnitude.
I also think Jones has far better takedown/takedown defense, and is much, much more physical. The end result is he could very well come out ahead with the grappling because he will put the fight where he wants it. Sonnen is a higher level wrestler, but his “ground and pound” reminds me a lot of Lindland’s, arm punches and smothering control. Jones would do damage from the top, and he WOULD be there if he wanted to.
I think Silva is better technically, but Jones is pretty damn skilled(and getting better in leaps and bounds), and far bigger.
Side Note: rundymc, is your rib doing better?
Regards,
Robert A
[quote]Schwarzfahrer wrote:
Sauber, Finsterschleicherin!
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[quote]atfkao wrote:
[quote]rundymc wrote:
That was some Matrix-level shit.
That aside, this was a surprisingly good main card. Really impressed with Fitch and his new willingness to pass guard and submission hunt. This was his second most exciting fight, next to that KO Hendricks gave him. Respect.
Holy shit does Texeira have some brutal GnP. I honestly think that doctor saved Maldonado’s career.[/quote]
I say bring on Jones vs. Teixeira! [/quote]
I think next up is Jones vs. Gustaffson. I haven’t heard any mention of him of late, what progress has he made with the knee injury everyone and their pet bird seems to be getting? Or should Gustaffson fight Teixeira first?
[quote]Damici wrote:
Silva should really only be fighting Top 2 or Top 3 guys in whatever weight division he fights in[/quote]
Bills
[quote]Schwarzfahrer wrote:
Sauber, Finsterschleicherin!
[/quote]
I understand German and, bear in mind that, as a Black person, I can take what you, a German person, wrote up there, in different way that you intended. I see you being upset when people make German jokes around here. But chill the fuck out. It’s the fucking internet.
And I wasn’t making a joke in my reply to OE. What I said wasn’t probably clear but it ain’t easy when you have up to five German speakers talking and laughing loudly around you, and, at the same time, you’re trying to write perfect English over the internet.
/thread derail.
[quote]Robert A wrote:
[quote]rundymc wrote:
[quote]ZEB wrote:
Yeah, Silva is a great fighter no question. I really enjoyed watching him take Bonnar out. But Jon Jones is too big and his ground game is on a higher level than silva’s. This is a man who dominates Lightheavy’s. If Sonnon beat up Silva for over 4 rounds can anyone imagine what Jones would do to him? Usually the person who moves up to fight the champion at the higher weight class loses. Silva/Jones would be no exception. And Silva/GSP would go the same way with the bigger man winning.
Everyone should stay at their own weight and forget about taking on the champ at the next higher weight class.[/quote]
I wouldn’t say he necessarily has the better ground game. It wasn’t that long ago that he had trouble passing Bader’s guard, and of course there was that little mistake against Vitor (granted he fixed it right after). Silva’s good at holding people from his back and minimizing damage, as well as threatening with reversals; I believe the latter is why Chael was hesitant to capitalize on that full mount in the second fight. I’m not saying Silva outright wins a Jones fight, but I don’t think its so cut and dried in Jon’s favor.
On the topic of the first Chael fight, I was of the opinion that Chael steam-rolled him on skill and guts alone, until I dislocated a rib last week. I wouldn’t know how it affects your striking, but it sure as hell restricts your grappling, particularly of your back.[/quote]
I think Silva has a “more developed” or “more technical” ground game than Jones. Possibly even by an order of magnitude.
I also think Jones has far better takedown/takedown defense, and is much, much more physical. The end result is he could very well come out ahead with the grappling because he will put the fight where he wants it. Sonnen is a higher level wrestler, but his “ground and pound” reminds me a lot of Lindland’s, arm punches and smothering control. Jones would do damage from the top, and he WOULD be there if he wanted to.
I think Silva is better technically, but Jones is pretty damn skilled(and getting better in leaps and bounds), and far bigger.
Side Note: rundymc, is your rib doing better?
Regards,
Robert A[/quote]
Slow recovery process, which is to be expected when cartilage is involved I guess. I do notice an improvement though. How it fairs a month or two from now all depends on how careful I am in training. It’s a wonder how such a small part of the body can mess with how you grapple.