[quote]humble wrote:
If Silva lost, no one would complain about the shorts or vaso.
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Well of course not because it would be seen as a non factor. Its just time to accept that greasing is part of the game now. Anytime you have a solid wrestler or jits fighter the other guy will be greased. Its not the first and it certainly wont be the last. Seriously in MMA they need to just remove vasoline from the fight all together. I get why they use it on the face to help against cuts but to hell with that. When grappling comes into play they need to remove it.
[quote]humble wrote:
If Silva lost, no one would complain about the shorts or vaso.
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Actually, the vaseline is the one thing that taints my enjoyment of Silva’s destruction win. He was facing a great grappler, and the fact he did that and the referee felt the need to wipe it off has me thinking Silva went into the fight short some of the confidence he needed to back up his last minute smash talk.
[quote]DeadKong wrote:
Actually, the vaseline is the one thing that taints my enjoyment of Silva’s destruction win. He was facing a great grappler, and the fact he did that and the referee felt the need to wipe it off has me thinking Silva went into the fight short some of the confidence he needed to back up his last minute smash talk.[/quote]
I doubt it. Silva was more confident…and motivated than any fight in recent years.
[quote]Big_Boss wrote:
Hmmm…ALL fighters get vaseline on their faces,right? So once the action begins, where does that vaseline end up?? [/quote]
Is this another prison reference?[/quote]
No…cause they don’t use vaseline in prisons. Anyways…lol…
Seriously though…the vaseline on the face…really isn’t a negligible amount to begin with. So I just had the thought that the vaseline pretty much is a non-factor in both cases: Whether a fighter rubs it on their body intentionally…OR…it ends up spreading just by nature of mma fights through sweat,groundwork,etc. Basically, is it really an advantage?
Now…unless a fighter takes the Akiyama approach…or a coach rubs fighter down with something between rounds…I really wouldn’t call the vaseline from the face as “greasing.” All in all…I really don’t see need for vaseline for mma anyways…just my opinion.
[quote]Big_Boss wrote:
Hmmm…ALL fighters get vaseline on their faces,right? So once the action begins, where does that vaseline end up?? [/quote]
Is this another prison reference?[/quote]
No…cause they don’t use vaseline in prisons. Anyways…lol…
Seriously though…the vaseline on the face…really isn’t a negligible amount to begin with. So I just had the thought that the vaseline pretty much is a non-factor in both cases: Whether a fighter rubs it on their body intentionally…OR…it ends up spreading just by nature of mma fights through sweat,groundwork,etc. Basically, is it really an advantage?
Now…unless a fighter takes the Akiyama approach…or a coach rubs fighter down with something between rounds…I really wouldn’t call the vaseline from the face as “greasing.” All in all…I really don’t see need for vaseline for mma anyways…just my opinion. [/quote]
that was my point as well. In mma there is no need for it and it just ends up hurting the graplers. at some point they need to understand that stand up combat sports and mma are two separate things and treat them different.
[quote]Big_Boss wrote:
Hmmm…ALL fighters get vaseline on their faces,right? So once the action begins, where does that vaseline end up?? [/quote]
Is this another prison reference?[/quote]
No…cause they don’t use vaseline in prisons. Anyways…lol…
Seriously though…the vaseline on the face…really isn’t a negligible amount to begin with. So I just had the thought that the vaseline pretty much is a non-factor in both cases: Whether a fighter rubs it on their body intentionally…OR…it ends up spreading just by nature of mma fights through sweat,groundwork,etc. Basically, is it really an advantage?
Now…unless a fighter takes the Akiyama approach…or a coach rubs fighter down with something between rounds…I really wouldn’t call the vaseline from the face as “greasing.” All in all…I really don’t see need for vaseline for mma anyways…just my opinion. [/quote]
that was my point as well. In mma there is no need for it and it just ends up hurting the graplers. at some point they need to understand that stand up combat sports and mma are two separate things and treat them different.[/quote]
Yeah…could argue it’s just another carried-over “relic” from boxing shrug Just really no relevance for mma.
[quote]Big_Boss wrote:
Hmmm…ALL fighters get vaseline on their faces,right? So once the action begins, where does that vaseline end up?? [/quote]
Is this another prison reference?[/quote]
No…cause they don’t use vaseline in prisons. Anyways…lol…
Seriously though…the vaseline on the face…really isn’t a negligible amount to begin with. So I just had the thought that the vaseline pretty much is a non-factor in both cases: Whether a fighter rubs it on their body intentionally…OR…it ends up spreading just by nature of mma fights through sweat,groundwork,etc. Basically, is it really an advantage?
Now…unless a fighter takes the Akiyama approach…or a coach rubs fighter down with something between rounds…I really wouldn’t call the vaseline from the face as “greasing.” All in all…I really don’t see need for vaseline for mma anyways…just my opinion. [/quote]
that was my point as well. In mma there is no need for it and it just ends up hurting the graplers. at some point they need to understand that stand up combat sports and mma are two separate things and treat them different.[/quote]
[quote]Big_Boss wrote:
Hmmm…ALL fighters get vaseline on their faces,right? So once the action begins, where does that vaseline end up?? [/quote]
Is this another prison reference?[/quote]
No…cause they don’t use vaseline in prisons. Anyways…lol…
Seriously though…the vaseline on the face…really isn’t a negligible amount to begin with. So I just had the thought that the vaseline pretty much is a non-factor in both cases: Whether a fighter rubs it on their body intentionally…OR…it ends up spreading just by nature of mma fights through sweat,groundwork,etc. Basically, is it really an advantage?
Now…unless a fighter takes the Akiyama approach…or a coach rubs fighter down with something between rounds…I really wouldn’t call the vaseline from the face as “greasing.” All in all…I really don’t see need for vaseline for mma anyways…just my opinion. [/quote]
that was my point as well. In mma there is no need for it and it just ends up hurting the graplers. at some point they need to understand that stand up combat sports and mma are two separate things and treat them different.[/quote]
They could always wear rashguards. [/quote]
You…know…that kind of threw me off…we had some guys go out to fight ammy in Cali…and they require rashguards.
[quote]Big_Boss wrote:
Hmmm…ALL fighters get vaseline on their faces,right? So once the action begins, where does that vaseline end up?? [/quote]
Is this another prison reference?[/quote]
No…cause they don’t use vaseline in prisons. Anyways…lol…
Seriously though…the vaseline on the face…really isn’t a negligible amount to begin with. So I just had the thought that the vaseline pretty much is a non-factor in both cases: Whether a fighter rubs it on their body intentionally…OR…it ends up spreading just by nature of mma fights through sweat,groundwork,etc. Basically, is it really an advantage?
Now…unless a fighter takes the Akiyama approach…or a coach rubs fighter down with something between rounds…I really wouldn’t call the vaseline from the face as “greasing.” All in all…I really don’t see need for vaseline for mma anyways…just my opinion. [/quote]
that was my point as well. In mma there is no need for it and it just ends up hurting the graplers. at some point they need to understand that stand up combat sports and mma are two separate things and treat them different.[/quote]
They could always wear rashguards. [/quote]
You…know…that kind of threw me off…we had some guys go out to fight ammy in Cali…and they require rashguards.[/quote]
But then I couldn’t show off my amazing side abs. They’re not love handles! Shut up!
Chael actually talked about fighters mentally quitting in fights and letting themselves be swarmed on to end a fight when they lose hope on the Joe Rogan experience podcast, I think the idea chael mentally had had enough after the failed take downs might have some merit. Obviously no one but Chael knows, but even if he did mentally tap, still got to give a pro fighter props no matter what, Chael’s is a beast, so is Anderson.
I don’t think charl quit mentally, he wouldn’t have tried to get up after the knee if he had. I think he just realized that he wasn’t setting his takedowns up well and decided to try to use strikes to do so. Unfortunately for him Anderson had other plans. The spinning hammer fist was obviously something he had practiced to try to be unpredictable and maybe catch Silva off guard. He thought he saw an opening and took it. Things just didn’t wind up going his way; Anderson is just the better fighter, plain and simple.