[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:
In a five round fight it would be fitch by UD, in a 3 round fight, it all depends on how motivated bj is. I can see it going either way. [/quote]
Penn fans love this line as if Penn is better than everyone else and all that determines the outcome is if Penn is motivated.
It’s sad that such an amazing fighter’s motivation is always in doubt. Very few fighters do we have to question their motivation.
Fitch/Edgar/GSP/probably some other fighters out there will beat Penn regardless of his motivation.
[quote]kmcnyc wrote:
Loops when I said tha t this card was full of mid tier fighters i was looking at the preliminary card.
I like George Soritopolis over Silver his stand upis slicker then it looks
I’m sure he will eventually get a sub
Bisping vs Riviera both have looked ok recently it’s hard to get past the Hendo knockout
Should e a good fight,
I like Pearson he brings it but so does Spencer Fischer
So that is three good fights.
Sure i will lplay foil why not.
We all know you like a good lecture or argument.
But let’s be reasonable… Sure penn fucked up twice and had zero offense with Edgar
And he hast had any record wormy mentioning at 170 recently.
But let’s also not forget the onside beat downs he has put on just about every one else at 155
Not named Edgar he mauled sherk and sent Sanchez back to yes cartwheel nirvana.
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Name the fighters that Penn has beaten at welterweight other than Matt Hughes.
[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:
In a five round fight it would be fitch by UD, in a 3 round fight, it all depends on how motivated bj is. I can see it going either way. [/quote]
Penn fans love this line as if Penn is better than everyone else and all that determines the outcome is if Penn is motivated.
It’s sad that such an amazing fighter’s motivation is always in doubt. Very few fighters do we have to question their motivation.
Fitch/Edgar/GSP/probably some other fighters out there will beat Penn regardless of his motivation. [/quote]
I agree and I think that there are lightweights other than Edgar who would beat Penn. Gray Maynard and Gilbert Melendez for two. And if Sherk would remember that he’s not a boxer and actually ground and pound (ala Hughes) he would also beat Penn. While Penn has some really good skills they don’t make up for his lack of heart and conditioning.
Not that it necessarily amounts to a pinch of shit but did anyone else notice how soft BJ looked at weigh-ins?
I think it is easy to forget his early days of moving among weight classes but with a wrestling background it is hard for me to think someone coming in looking that soft is at a peak level of conditioning.
Man, the more I type the more amped I am for this fight.
Also, I think that if Sotiropolous sticks to his game plan (or at least what I perceive to be his plan) he will beat Siver handily. He just needs to keep moving and own the middle.
[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:
In a five round fight it would be fitch by UD, in a 3 round fight, it all depends on how motivated bj is. I can see it going either way. [/quote]
Penn fans love this line as if Penn is better than everyone else and all that determines the outcome is if Penn is motivated.
It’s sad that such an amazing fighter’s motivation is always in doubt. Very few fighters do we have to question their motivation.
Fitch/Edgar/GSP/probably some other fighters out there will beat Penn regardless of his motivation. [/quote]
No, people that analyze fights realistically based on past performances love this line. Im a Penn fan only when he fights at LW, there are lots of WWs i like better, and Fitch is one of them. Im pulling for a Fitch win, but Penn always holds the threat of an unpredictable fight ending blitz.
[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:
In a five round fight it would be fitch by UD, in a 3 round fight, it all depends on how motivated bj is. I can see it going either way. [/quote]
Penn fans love this line as if Penn is better than everyone else and all that determines the outcome is if Penn is motivated.
It’s sad that such an amazing fighter’s motivation is always in doubt. Very few fighters do we have to question their motivation.
Fitch/Edgar/GSP/probably some other fighters out there will beat Penn regardless of his motivation. [/quote]
I agree and I think that there are lightweights other than Edgar who would beat Penn. Gray Maynard and Gilbert Melendez for two. And if Sherk would remember that he’s not a boxer and actually ground and pound (ala Hughes) he would also beat Penn. While Penn has some really good skills they don’t make up for his lack of heart and conditioning.
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Don’t discredit Penn too much. He beat up Diego Sanchez whom you predicted to beat Penn. And he beat Florian.
But I predicted that Penn would beat Edgar the second time, so what do I know.
Penn said it best, “the God’s smiled on me tonight and gave me a draw.” But I do respect his honesty and how he came out after Fitch in the first round. But, Fitch won that fight and I think we all know it.
[quote]ZEB wrote:
Penn said it best, “the God’s smiled on me tonight and gave me a draw.” But I do respect his honesty and how he came out after Fitch in the first round. But, Fitch won that fight and I think we all know it.[/quote]
Does being wring all the time ever get old?
Penn Rd 1 and 2 Fitch 3
I’ll give Fitch round 3 10-8
Which is a DRAW
bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!
[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:
In a five round fight it would be fitch by UD, in a 3 round fight, it all depends on how motivated bj is. I can see it going either way. [/quote]
Penn fans love this line as if Penn is better than everyone else and all that determines the outcome is if Penn is motivated.
It’s sad that such an amazing fighter’s motivation is always in doubt. Very few fighters do we have to question their motivation.
Fitch/Edgar/GSP/probably some other fighters out there will beat Penn regardless of his motivation. [/quote]
So basically exactly what i said happened. Fitch started taking over as the fight wore on (which is why i said he would take a 5 rounder) but since it was a 3 rounder it was extremely close, as i said it would be.
Had nothing to do with whether i was a BJ fan or not
[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:
In a five round fight it would be fitch by UD, in a 3 round fight, it all depends on how motivated bj is. I can see it going either way. [/quote]
Penn fans love this line as if Penn is better than everyone else and all that determines the outcome is if Penn is motivated.
It’s sad that such an amazing fighter’s motivation is always in doubt. Very few fighters do we have to question their motivation.
Fitch/Edgar/GSP/probably some other fighters out there will beat Penn regardless of his motivation. [/quote]
So basically exactly what i said happened. Fitch started taking over as the fight wore on (which is why i said he would take a 5 rounder) but since it was a 3 rounder it was extremely close, as i said it would be.
Had nothing to do with whether i was a BJ fan or not
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This really makes me want to see Fitch against one of the better wrestlers at WW not names GSP.
He’s beaten Paulo a bjj fighter, Ben Saunders a stand up fighter, Alves another stand up fighter and had a very tough fight with Mike Pierce. If the Ellenberger fight would have happened I can honestly see Jake winning that one. I also think any upper tier wrestler beats Fitchy. He was exposed tonight imo and I really never seem him beating GSP. (not that I see anyone at WW doing that for a while)
I think that was the best BJ I have seen, for the first 6 minutes. He was well rounded, he mixed strikes, takedowns, groundwork, and submissions. I thought Penn was going to make me eat crow at least twice in the first round.
[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:
In a five round fight it would be fitch by UD, in a 3 round fight, it all depends on how motivated bj is. I can see it going either way. [/quote]
Penn fans love this line as if Penn is better than everyone else and all that determines the outcome is if Penn is motivated.
It’s sad that such an amazing fighter’s motivation is always in doubt. Very few fighters do we have to question their motivation.
Fitch/Edgar/GSP/probably some other fighters out there will beat Penn regardless of his motivation. [/quote]
So basically exactly what i said happened. Fitch started taking over as the fight wore on (which is why i said he would take a 5 rounder) but since it was a 3 rounder it was extremely close, as i said it would be.
Had nothing to do with whether i was a BJ fan or not
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I wasn’t commenting on your prediction. Which was right, good call. I was commenting on the “it all depends on how motivated BJ is” I hate that line for the reasons above. The outcome of tonight’s fight had nothing to do with BJ’s motivation. He had success early on because he had a great gameplan and he was able to execute. Even in the post fight Fitch said he was thrown off by BJ’s td attempts. Did this all depend on BJ’s motivation?
yeah, i think you can make the argument for a fitch decision…[/quote]
It’s called an extremely lopsided third round. That fight could have gone 70 rounds of fitch playing patty cake on BJ’s face. Were any of those strikes more significant than BJ having back mount and threatening with rnc’s Nope. Fitch also scored 3 takedowns in the third. So like I said earlier a draw imo, with Fitch getting a 10-8 third round. I really don’t see how rd 2 was a draw or a Fitch round.
As i expected the main event was lack luster, but i got impressed with the guy who beat Chris Lytle he’s funny and awkward but he got the job done, i expect it to get the FOTN award.
Siver threw a monkey wrench on lightweight division =D
Mark Hunt did a classy K.O. i even drank i beer in his homage.
Bisping is a cunt, Rivera should’ve just said he couldn’t fight anymore and make Bisping get DQ’ed.
BJ is just another one in the pack in WW. Lacking gas on 3 rounders, i thank god for this crap ending in a DRAW i wouldn’t stand seeing another GSP VS PENN/FITCH
Your prediction btw was really good. I think if there was a round 4 and 5 they would have looked a lot like round 3, which was the dominant GnP relentlessness of Fitch. The fact that it was only 3 rounds prevented fitch from racking up the points on the scorecards and having that GnP damage accrue.
I am impressed by BJ’s round 1 though. That was a different gameplan and it was executed well. Round 3 though was vintage fitch and why I don’t think it’s fair to call him lay and pray. He continuously throws punches and tries to hurt his opponent. He was throwing for about 4min straight. Clay Guida- LnP, not Fitch. “Grinding,” yes but LnP no. Not that anyone here specifically said that but I’ve heard it a lot when refering to Fitch.
In the end I thought it was going to be fitch by majority decision, but this result is not outlandish.
[quote]OneMoreRep wrote:
I am impressed by BJ’s round 1 though. That was a different gameplan and it was executed well. Round 3 though was vintage fitch and why I don’t think it’s fair to call him lay and pray. He continuously throws punches and tries to hurt his opponent. He was throwing for about 4min straight. Clay Guida- LnP, not Fitch. “Grinding,” yes but LnP no. Not that anyone here specifically said that but I’ve heard it a lot when refering to Fitch.
In the end I thought it was going to be fitch by majority decision, but this result is not outlandish. [/quote]
I was impressed by both fighters. For BJ, he is not used to fighting like that…it showed, as throwing wrestling in the mix takes its toll. He should consider lifting a few weights, as well.