[quote]Marzouk wrote:
[quote]groo wrote:
[quote]Marzouk wrote:
Looks like its a domino effect.
Yemen
Tunisia
Iraq
Embassies getting attacked everywhere. FML[/quote]
Everywhere? I don’t think its everywhere. I think its in certain places.[/quote]
You my friend are a fucking cunt. Talk about taking this things out of context and being a pedantic little prick. [/quote]
Funny, I though it was a very good post. Powerful even in pointing out an obvious truth.
Would like to know where the financing for that movie came from. Some Islamic fundamentalist terrorists perhaps? In order to start the protests, under which you then launch coordinated attacks under ‘civilian’ cover?
Using the West’s freedom of speech and technology just as they used freedom of movement etc in the 9/11 attacks?
[quote]Neuromancer wrote:
Would like to know where the financing for that movie came from. Some Islamic fundamentalist terrorists perhaps? In order to start the protests, under which you then launch coordinated attacks under ‘civilian’ cover?
Using the West’s freedom of speech and technology just as they used freedom of movement etc in the 9/11 attacks?[/quote]
I haven’t heard this one. I’ve heard several times that the film was made by Israel to help harden us up a bit.
[quote]Neuromancer wrote:
Would like to know where the financing for that movie came from. Some Islamic fundamentalist terrorists perhaps? In order to start the protests, under which you then launch coordinated attacks under ‘civilian’ cover?
Using the West’s freedom of speech and technology just as they used freedom of movement etc in the 9/11 attacks?[/quote]
The movie is but an excuse. If there was no movie, it would be a cartoon, or a slight, or a song, or whatever.
Complete distraction.
[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
The movie is but an excuse. If there was no movie, it would be a cartoon, or a slight, or a song, or whatever.
Complete distraction.[/quote]
Yep. The movie isn’t worth but a passing mention in this unfolding story. Somebody else would’ve made another movie. Another cartoon. Written another book. More will be made. And the response of Islamists to this particular movie will ensure that more, rather than less, will be made. These events will actually fuel their production and distribution.
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]Marzouk wrote:
[quote]groo wrote:
[quote]Marzouk wrote:
Looks like its a domino effect.
Yemen
Tunisia
Iraq
Embassies getting attacked everywhere. FML[/quote]
Everywhere? I don’t think its everywhere. I think its in certain places.[/quote]
You my friend are a fucking cunt. Talk about taking this things out of context and being a pedantic little prick. [/quote]
@Marzouk - What the fuck are you doing in my country? What are you doing here?[/quote]
which country is that? I didn’t know you were in Egypt.
[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
[quote]Neuromancer wrote:
Would like to know where the financing for that movie came from. Some Islamic fundamentalist terrorists perhaps? In order to start the protests, under which you then launch coordinated attacks under ‘civilian’ cover?
Using the West’s freedom of speech and technology just as they used freedom of movement etc in the 9/11 attacks?[/quote]
The movie is but an excuse. If there was no movie, it would be a cartoon, or a slight, or a song, or whatever.
Complete distraction.[/quote]
I agree… they were waiting in the background just waiting for a reason/excuse to pounce.
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]Marzouk wrote:
[quote]groo wrote:
[quote]Marzouk wrote:
Looks like its a domino effect.
Yemen
Tunisia
Iraq
Embassies getting attacked everywhere. FML[/quote]
Everywhere? I don’t think its everywhere. I think its in certain places.[/quote]
You my friend are a fucking cunt. Talk about taking this things out of context and being a pedantic little prick. [/quote]
Funny, I though it was a very good post. Powerful even in pointing out an obvious truth.[/quote]
Everywhere was just a general term, not to be taken as it was written.
Next time i will make sure i write exactly what i mean.
Would ‘Embassies are being attacked in certain countries in the middle east’ have been more fitting?
For some reason everyone thinks im against u guys when im not. I agree with you that the act was wrong.
I just dont agree with the retaliation will be.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]Marzouk wrote:
I just dont agree with the retaliation will be.
[/quote]
One thing’s for certain - if the retaliation is not overwhelmingly fierce lots more of this shit will continue.
The Nice Guy approach is ludicrous.
The Russian and Israeli approaches are exemplary and effective.
[/quote]
What exactly are you saying?
Find and bring violence to the people who did this, yes. Kill anyone climbing the wall of a diplomatic compound, yes.
Are you saying something further should be done?
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]Marzouk wrote:
I just dont agree with the retaliation will be.
[/quote]
One thing’s for certain - if the retaliation is not overwhelmingly fierce lots more of this shit will continue.
The Nice Guy approach is ludicrous.
The Russian and Israeli approaches are exemplary and effective.
[/quote]
Its really worked so far in the middle east.
Has it deterred afghanis or iraqis? or do American soldiers die every week for something that happened 11 years ago?
Does the lethal injection or gas chamber deter murderers or rapists?
The middle east just wants be left alone. So that what needs to be done. If a crazy dictator wants to kill 10,000 of his own people a year let him crack on.
[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
[quote]Neuromancer wrote:
Would like to know where the financing for that movie came from. Some Islamic fundamentalist terrorists perhaps? In order to start the protests, under which you then launch coordinated attacks under ‘civilian’ cover?
Using the West’s freedom of speech and technology just as they used freedom of movement etc in the 9/11 attacks?[/quote]
The movie is but an excuse. If there was no movie, it would be a cartoon, or a slight, or a song, or whatever.
Complete distraction.[/quote]
Of course, I agree. What I’m saying is why wait for an excuse when you can manufacture one. Sounds easier /more plausible than just having operatives sitting around waiting for the right time to present itself.
Edit: All looks just rather coordinated to me…and the timing so close to 9/11 ?
[quote]Neuromancer wrote:
[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
[quote]Neuromancer wrote:
Would like to know where the financing for that movie came from. Some Islamic fundamentalist terrorists perhaps? In order to start the protests, under which you then launch coordinated attacks under ‘civilian’ cover?
Using the West’s freedom of speech and technology just as they used freedom of movement etc in the 9/11 attacks?[/quote]
The movie is but an excuse. If there was no movie, it would be a cartoon, or a slight, or a song, or whatever.
Complete distraction.[/quote]
Of course, I agree. What I’m saying is why wait for an excuse when you can manufacture one. Sounds easier /more plausible than just having operatives sitting around waiting for the right time to present itself.
Edit: All looks just rather coordinated to me…and the timing so close to 9/11 ?
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Apparently the financing came from several JEWISH business men.
[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
The USA, the West, Israel, etc. will NEVER be loved in the ME. It’s stupid to try.
You will either be alpha, beta, gamma, or someone’s bitch.
[/quote]
I just wanted to point out, I meant this quite literally:
“According to the Lebanese news organization Tayyar.org, citing AFP news sources, U.S. ambassador to Libya Christopher Stevens, who was killed by gunmen that stormed the U.S. consulate in Benghazi on Tuesday, was reportedly raped before being murdered.”
I will also note that Amb. Stevens is the first US amassador since 1979 Iran to be murdered in the course of his duties.
Dealing with Islamist are very much like dealing with violent prisoners. Yes, the majority of prisoners just want to “do their time.” But there is a constant violent undercurrent and a full 1/3 are just bat shit crazy and will take over at the first sign of weakness.[/quote]
This is really what it comes down to.
Radical Islam will never, EVER stop trying to kill non-believers. They will never give in, never stop trying.
Israel has figured this out, they are at a constant state of readiness, other western countries jusss wannna be FRIENDS. And that is why we still keep getting caught with our pants down like this.
[quote]Neuromancer wrote:
Edit: All looks just rather coordinated to me…and the timing so close to 9/11 ?
[/quote]
As a soldier, it looked pretty professional, to me.
They weren’t using the seemingly-standard-issue RPGs that are all over the sand box.
They used high-dollar, high-pentration, anti-tank or breaching rockets — and they didn’t fucking kill themsleves using them. Not easy.
They followed a protocol, came in an organized fashion, with cover, flash-bang grenades first, etc.
In short, I am betting they were at least former Libyian Special Forces or the equivalent.
[quote]Marzouk wrote:
Apparently the financing came from several JEWISH business men.
[/quote]
That’s already been debunked.
The director was Nakoula Basseley Nakoula, a California Coptic Christian, backed by an evangelical Christian group, Copts, ex-muslims, and, yes, even some Jews.
The producer “Sam Bacile” speaks either with an accent or with no accent, but speaks arabic and is dark skinned.
[quote]Marzouk wrote:
Would ‘Embassies are being attacked in certain countries in the middle east’ have been more fitting?
[/quote]
Yes, because lets not pretend we are talking about something we are not.
[quote]Marzouk wrote:
If a crazy dictator wants to kill 10,000 of his own people a year let him crack on. [/quote]
So you are cool with genocide?
[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
The USA, the West, Israel, etc. will NEVER be loved in the ME. It’s stupid to try.
You will either be alpha, beta, gamma, or someone’s bitch.
[/quote]
I just wanted to point out, I meant this quite literally:
“According to the Lebanese news organization Tayyar.org, citing AFP news sources, U.S. ambassador to Libya Christopher Stevens, who was killed by gunmen that stormed the U.S. consulate in Benghazi on Tuesday, was reportedly raped before being murdered.”
I will also note that Amb. Stevens is the first US amassador since 1979 Iran to be murdered in the course of his duties.
Dealing with Islamist are very much like dealing with violent prisoners. Yes, the majority of prisoners just want to “do their time.” But there is a constant violent undercurrent and a full 1/3 are just bat shit crazy and will take over at the first sign of weakness.[/quote]
If this turns out to be true it is fucking unbelievable. It won’t provide much consolation but we can only hope that each of these animals responsible is hunted down and killed slowly.