Correct me if I am wrong, but are not consulates and embassies considered U.S. soil?
A country attacked our embassy, killed our ambassador along with tow other people…and all the President can say is “that was an outrageous act”
What in the world have we come to.
[quote]UtahLama wrote:
Correct me if I am wrong, but are not consulates and embassies considered U.S. soil?
A country attacked our embassy, killed our ambassador along with tow other people…and all the President can say is “that was an outrageous act”
What in the world have we come to.[/quote]
Where are the bombers? This city should be in flames at this moment.
That would discourage this in the future. Just nape the whole place.
But if it happened in Iran then WW3 would begin
Will the death of 4 justify the death of 4000?
They were nice enough to drag him through the city before they killed him.
[quote]UtahLama wrote:
They were nice enough to drag him through the city before they killed him.[/quote]
Disgusting.
[quote]Marzouk wrote:
Will the death of 4 justify the death of 4000?[/quote]
Does a YouTube video justify the death of 4 completely unrelated individuals?
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]Marzouk wrote:
Will the death of 4 justify the death of 4000?[/quote]
Does a YouTube video justify the death of 4 completely unrelated individuals?[/quote]
No it does not. I never said it did.
Just tell the Libyans that they have 48 hours to hand over the perpetrators to the U.S (you know they know exactly who they are, some were interviewed by Al Jazeera) …or special forces will eliminate all of them, as long as it takes.
Or we could just apologize for being American and act like this was all our fault.
Right after 9-11, this is amazingly embarrassing.
[quote]UtahLama wrote:
Just tell the Libyans that they have 48 hours to hand over the perpetrators to the U.S (you know they know exactly who they are, some were interviewed by Al Jazeera) …or special forces will eliminate all of them, as long as it takes.
Or we could just apologize for being American and act like this was all our fault.
Right after 9-11, this is amazingly embarrassing.[/quote]
I agree with regard to mounting a fierce and immediate response, but the apology thing has been misconstrued for political purpose.
The statements–which were less apologetic than a simple and descent statement of this country’s disdain for mocking and insult–were issued before any attack had taken place.
Romney jumped on this, which I think was a huge mistake, but every other top Republican statement has declined to criticize the politics of it all, opting instead to talk about unity, etc.
[quote]UtahLama wrote:
Or we could just apologize for being American and act like this was all our fault.
.[/quote]
You know what is America’s fault? Freedom & Strength.
Freedom to say what you think and know you won’t be slaughtered for it, and the Strength to not slaughter another for speaking their thoughts.
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]UtahLama wrote:
Or we could just apologize for being American and act like this was all our fault.
.[/quote]
You know what is America’s fault? Freedom & Strength.
Freedom to say what you think and know you won’t be slaughtered for it, and the Strength to not slaughter another for speaking their thoughts. [/quote]
Agreed. Tragedies like this one only serve to accentuate our greatness.
[quote]smh23 wrote:
[quote]UtahLama wrote:
Just tell the Libyans that they have 48 hours to hand over the perpetrators to the U.S (you know they know exactly who they are, some were interviewed by Al Jazeera) …or special forces will eliminate all of them, as long as it takes.
Or we could just apologize for being American and act like this was all our fault.
Right after 9-11, this is amazingly embarrassing.[/quote]
I agree with regard to mounting a fierce and immediate response, but the apology thing has been misconstrued for political purpose.
The statements–which were less apologetic than a simple and descent statement of this country’s disdain for mocking and insult–were issued before any attack had taken place.
Romney jumped on this, which I think was a huge mistake, but every other top Republican statement has declined to criticize the politics of it all, opting instead to talk about unity, etc.[/quote]
So saying sorry for giving people the right to free speech is okay?
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]smh23 wrote:
[quote]UtahLama wrote:
Just tell the Libyans that they have 48 hours to hand over the perpetrators to the U.S (you know they know exactly who they are, some were interviewed by Al Jazeera) …or special forces will eliminate all of them, as long as it takes.
Or we could just apologize for being American and act like this was all our fault.
Right after 9-11, this is amazingly embarrassing.[/quote]
I agree with regard to mounting a fierce and immediate response, but the apology thing has been misconstrued for political purpose.
The statements–which were less apologetic than a simple and descent statement of this country’s disdain for mocking and insult–were issued before any attack had taken place.
Romney jumped on this, which I think was a huge mistake, but every other top Republican statement has declined to criticize the politics of it all, opting instead to talk about unity, etc.[/quote]
So saying sorry for giving people the right to free speech is okay?[/quote]
Look, no one said sorry. If you can find a sorry somewhere, please produce it. A statement of fact was issued. I can–and should–condemn someone’s opinion while affirming with the utmost conviction that he should and always will have the right to express it.
This is one of those moments that are especially conducive to manufactured outrage.
[quote]smh23 wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]smh23 wrote:
[quote]UtahLama wrote:
Just tell the Libyans that they have 48 hours to hand over the perpetrators to the U.S (you know they know exactly who they are, some were interviewed by Al Jazeera) …or special forces will eliminate all of them, as long as it takes.
Or we could just apologize for being American and act like this was all our fault.
Right after 9-11, this is amazingly embarrassing.[/quote]
I agree with regard to mounting a fierce and immediate response, but the apology thing has been misconstrued for political purpose.
The statements–which were less apologetic than a simple and descent statement of this country’s disdain for mocking and insult–were issued before any attack had taken place.
Romney jumped on this, which I think was a huge mistake, but every other top Republican statement has declined to criticize the politics of it all, opting instead to talk about unity, etc.[/quote]
So saying sorry for giving people the right to free speech is okay?[/quote]
Look, no one said sorry. If you can find a sorry somewhere, please produce it. A statement of fact was issued. I can–and should–condemn someone’s opinion while affirming with the utmost conviction that he should and always will have the right to express it.
This is one of those moments that are especially conducive to manufactured outrage.[/quote]
Radical Islam has been killing people for using free speech forever.
From Salman Rushdie to the cartoons by the Danish newspaper Jyllands-Posten to the Van Gogh ASSASSINATION.
And these people are running the show over there.
[quote]smh23 wrote:
I agree with regard to mounting a fierce and immediate response, but the apology thing has been misconstrued for political purpose.[/quote]
Incorrect. When an embassy speaking in its capacity as a diplomatic arm of the United States attempts to apologize in the way it did for an attack on US sovereignty, that is worthy of criticism.
The idea that “politics stops at the water’s edge” is a different concept when an embassy is attacked - and how the executive branch handles the event is not beyond a candidate’s right to complain.
[quote]UtahLama wrote:
[quote]smh23 wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]smh23 wrote:
[quote]UtahLama wrote:
Just tell the Libyans that they have 48 hours to hand over the perpetrators to the U.S (you know they know exactly who they are, some were interviewed by Al Jazeera) …or special forces will eliminate all of them, as long as it takes.
Or we could just apologize for being American and act like this was all our fault.
Right after 9-11, this is amazingly embarrassing.[/quote]
I agree with regard to mounting a fierce and immediate response, but the apology thing has been misconstrued for political purpose.
The statements–which were less apologetic than a simple and descent statement of this country’s disdain for mocking and insult–were issued before any attack had taken place.
Romney jumped on this, which I think was a huge mistake, but every other top Republican statement has declined to criticize the politics of it all, opting instead to talk about unity, etc.[/quote]
So saying sorry for giving people the right to free speech is okay?[/quote]
Look, no one said sorry. If you can find a sorry somewhere, please produce it. A statement of fact was issued. I can–and should–condemn someone’s opinion while affirming with the utmost conviction that he should and always will have the right to express it.
This is one of those moments that are especially conducive to manufactured outrage.[/quote]
Radical Islam has been killing people for using free speech forever.
From Salman Rushdie to the cartoons by the Danish newspaper Jyllands-Posten to the Van Gogh ASSASSINATION.
And these people are running the show over there.
[/quote]
Maybe ‘Radical’ Islam has been killing people for using freedom speech,
America kills people for money.
[quote]thunderbolt23 wrote:
[quote]smh23 wrote:
I agree with regard to mounting a fierce and immediate response, but the apology thing has been misconstrued for political purpose.[/quote]
Incorrect. When an embassy speaking in its capacity as a diplomatic arm of the United States attempts to apologize in the way it did for an attack on US sovereignty, that is worthy of criticism.
The idea that “politics stops at the water’s edge” is a different concept when an embassy is attacked - and how the executive branch handles the event is not beyond a candidate’s right to complain.[/quote]
Show me where an embassy apologized for an attack. The statements you are referring to were issued before any violence. Unless you can disprove this, the fundamental premise of your argument is a lie.
[quote]UtahLama wrote:
[quote]smh23 wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]smh23 wrote:
[quote]UtahLama wrote:
Just tell the Libyans that they have 48 hours to hand over the perpetrators to the U.S (you know they know exactly who they are, some were interviewed by Al Jazeera) …or special forces will eliminate all of them, as long as it takes.
Or we could just apologize for being American and act like this was all our fault.
Right after 9-11, this is amazingly embarrassing.[/quote]
I agree with regard to mounting a fierce and immediate response, but the apology thing has been misconstrued for political purpose.
The statements–which were less apologetic than a simple and descent statement of this country’s disdain for mocking and insult–were issued before any attack had taken place.
Romney jumped on this, which I think was a huge mistake, but every other top Republican statement has declined to criticize the politics of it all, opting instead to talk about unity, etc.[/quote]
So saying sorry for giving people the right to free speech is okay?[/quote]
Look, no one said sorry. If you can find a sorry somewhere, please produce it. A statement of fact was issued. I can–and should–condemn someone’s opinion while affirming with the utmost conviction that he should and always will have the right to express it.
This is one of those moments that are especially conducive to manufactured outrage.[/quote]
Radical Islam has been killing people for using free speech forever.
From Salman Rushdie to the cartoons by the Danish newspaper Jyllands-Posten to the Van Gogh ASSASSINATION.
And these people are running the show over there.
[/quote]
You and I agree on this, completely. And we feel the same way about it. I’m simply making the point that the embassy’s statement, issued before the attack, should not be misconstrued as “we were attacked and then we apologized for the movie.” That is not what happened.
[quote]UtahLama wrote:
Correct me if I am wrong, but are not consulates and embassies considered U.S. soil?
A country attacked our embassy, killed our ambassador along with tow other people…and all the President can say is “that was an outrageous act”
What in the world have we come to.[/quote]
Who in the Libyan government gave an order to kill the US government’s ambassador?
Should all Libyan people need suffer blame for something they have no control over?