Two Hours of Daily Cardio: What Does It Do?

by Chris Shugart

The Calories-Out Study

What if we just kept our diets the same but did a buncha cardio? Would we lose fat? How much? What about muscle? Check out this study.

In the simplest terms, choose one of these options to lose fat:

  1. Eat fewer calories than your maintenance intake (calorie deficit via diet)
  2. Expend or burn more calories (calorie deficit via exercise)
  3. Eat a little less than maintenance AND burn more calories with exercise

Yes, hormones, sleep, nutrient timing, and other things play their parts, but calories play the lead role in any fat-loss drama.

Most of us choose number three when it's time to drop fat: we adjust the "calories-in" and the "calories-out." But what would happen if we stuck to maintenance calories and just achieved an energy deficit through exercise alone? What if that exercise was only cardio? And what if we got ourselves into a 1000-calorie deficit by doing two hours of daily cardio for 93 days?

Well, we probably wouldn't do that! Luckily, some researchers did do it, and there's a lot we can learn from their insane study.

The Calories-Out Only Study

This study was crazy-strict. The researchers recruited seven pairs of moderately overweight, sedentary identical twins to live in a research facility for several months. Every meal was prepared for them and they were watched by two researchers every time they ate to make sure they were consuming the exact number of calories needed for the study.

During the baseline testing period, the 14 subjects underwent every test imaginable to figure out their maintenance intake, plus underwater weighing, skinfolds, blood work, biopsies… you name it.

Remember, the goal was to get them into a caloric deficit, but not from cutting calories. Their diet wasn't a "diet" – it was maintenance intake and customized to each guy. Macros were 50% carb, 15% protein, and 35% fat.

For exercise, the subjects peddled a stationary bike (light to moderate intensity) for two total hours per day: one workout in the morning and one in the afternoon. The researchers made sure they were each burning 1000 calories from exercise per day. They did this for 10 days in a row, had a day off from training, and repeated it several times. It came out to 93 days of being in a negative calorie balance.

Did They Die?

No. On average, they lost about 11 pounds with no discernable loss of muscle. Some lost only 2 pounds; some lost up to 17.5, but the average was 11.

What Can We Learn?

Cardio does work. Sure, it has its limitations and drawbacks, but it does work despite all the social media influencers saying, "Cardio don't work!" Well, obviously, it does. Hey, I wish they'd all gained fat and lost muscle too, so I'd have an excuse to avoid cardio, but that didn't happen.

Based on CICO math (calories-in calories-out), the researchers expected more fat loss. They ran the numbers and figured the average loss would be 14 pounds. So why only 11?

According to Dr. Bill Campbell, the subjects' metabolisms probably adapted as the study went on. Just like with diet, the body adapts to aerobic exercise. Sometimes this happens because "the body adapts to increased physical activity by reducing energy spent on other physiological functions, particularly non-exercise activity thermogenesis or NEAT," Dr. Campbell says.

This is something that competitive bodybuilders notice: the more they increase their cardio, the less they feel like moving around outside the gym. In the case of this study, their 1000-calorie deficit may have become an 800-calorie deficit because they sat around more in off times, burning 200 fewer calories. The cardio still worked, but the calories-out math shifted. Your body, that sneaky guy, fights you like a ninja when you're trying to lose fat.

Some of the subjects lost 2-3 pounds while some lost 15-17. They all did the same exercise and ate the same diets. This reminds us not to compare our results with the results of others. Although the genetically identical twins had similar rates of fat loss, even they weren't the same. For example, one twin lost 13 pounds while his brother lost 9. Same workouts, same foods, same genetic code, but different results.

Calories-out only fat loss plans can work. Eat what you normally eat and just move around a whole lot more. But that's tricky to do outside the lab.

I suspect many people don't see any fat loss because all they do is add cardio without knowing much about what they're eating. The cardio is great, but if they've been slowly gaining fat for years then they've probably been consuming a small calorie surplus. The calories they burn with cardio just puts them back at maintenance intake, but they're maintaining an overweight body. (Try my 5/2 Protein Diet if that's you.)

Should I Do Two Hours of Cardio Per Day?

Nope, but a little helps. Dr. Campbell suggests a "sequential fat-loss strategy." This is a fancy way of saying not to fire all your fat-loss bullets at once.

First, take care of the "calories-in" side of the equation: drop 300 to 500 calories per day by eating less. Your body will eventually adapt and slow down the rate of fat loss. NOW fire another bullet: add some cardio as a new stimulus.

Although the subjects of this study were sedentary, lifters carrying around extra muscle might be more prone to lean tissue loss, so keep the protein high and keep lifting to prevent it. Shoot for 1 gram of protein per pound of body weight and use MD Protein (Buy at Amazon) to make it easy to hit that number. As a bonus, MD Protein contains micellar casein, which is the only protein proven to be anti-catabolic.

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References

  1. C Bouchard, et al. "The response to exercise with constant energy intake in identical twins," Obesity Research, 2013. DOI: 10.1002/j.1550-8528.1994.tb00087.
  2. Body By Science, Dr. Bill Campbell. April, 2024, Issue 22.
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Interesting.

No discernible muscle loss with protein at 15% of caloric intake

High carb intake did not seem to alter results

Adaptability of the human body seems to call for variation of output

Calories in vs. Calories out is still a valid baseline, even with dietary macros that would cause the fitness industry to throw shit fits.

My personal takeaways are conjugated training programs and caloric management for the win, though I see value in increased protein intake for muscle growth as opposed to maintenance.

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I’m a big on cardio.

2 hours a day ever day with the occasional day off does not work with my lift schedule. I do it 3-4 times a week for 1 hour per session. I do however get close to the calorie burn (900) in that one hour that they did in 2 hours. The bike is inferior to running. I do interval running. Which will burn more calories and, despite the fact you are working harder and more, this type of training makes the cardio feel easier.

The cardio, right now in my advanced stage of lifting, impacts my body composition more than anything else. If I cut back to two sessions a week I will see the difference on the scale and in the mirror by middle of the second week of cutting back. Same happens if I do more cardio sessions.

It’s been a real eye opener for me. Because for years my version of cardio was weak. I would end a lifting session by climbing on the treadmill and trying to run for a mile. Jogging… It had some effect but nothing like what I do now. And of course there were plenty of days I didn’t get to the full mile. What I do now comes with the benefit of peer pressure. This doesn’t just help me get to the end it makes me want to better. To get better at running.

I went from pushing myself just to cross the finish line to get one mile in. To now my first mile is just my warm up. It’s how I get ready for my cardio workout.

I have gotten to the point that cardio is no longer part of my workout schedule. It’s the foundation. I see it as the most important thing I do

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I did a similar study involving myself but kept lifing and still pushed myself

My cardio was the stairmaster no impact made it easy to recover for my next lifting session built up my endurance up to 3 hrs 2-3X per week at a very good intensity used hr monitor and app obviously not accurate but going off the app burned 1000 cals per hour.

Didnt track my bodyweight much only pictures got down to 166lb under 10% bf maybe lower and just out of habit kept the routine.

As far as muscle goes as it almost seemed like I actually gained muscle pretty descent definition and if I did lose ot was minimal barely noticeable(I did consume more than enough protein)

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I wonder if they changed the macro would they have gotten better results. All of the stuff I’ve read, especially here, has shown the possitive effects of high protein. So next time they might try with a much higher protein percentage in the macro like at least 30 and drop the fat and carbs.

nice

I hear a lot about not doing too much cardio because you will loose muscle. I think if you eat the right amount of protein you will not loose and can make gains. This has been my experience too. Maybe we are differently genetically but I am skeptical about the idea that you can do too much cardio when it comes to muscle mass. I believe it is all about the protein

Not buying it. What does two hours of daily cardio do ? For a natty, you will never gain one iota of muscle. It would fall under the “WEIDER MUSCLE RETARDATION PRINCIPLE.”

I’m genuinely curious: do you think they just made up results and published them? Or perhaps the study was poorly controlled? Or they misrepresented the variables?

What causes you to dismiss it?

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Because the participants weren’t built like us.

These studies have limited applicability to people with our physiques and our goals.

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I never looked at cardio as an efficient method for fat loss. My diet, training and NEAT take care of that. I do cardio for conditioning and cardiovascular health 2-3 times a week for 20-30 minutes (either fasted in the morning or immediately after lifting). For me , excessive cardio always impeded recovery and negatively effected strength and hypertrophy. I’m not an endurance athlete. Otherwise, I’d have a different perspective.

Agree.

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There are some very jacked football and rugby players who do at least two hours of cardio daily and don’t even train for hypertrophy intentionally.

Like who? 2 hours daily is a lot of cardio. He also said naturals.

Who has muscles in the NFL or who does cardio in the NFL?

They do not do 2 hours of cardio daily, especially not 2 hours of steady state/zone 2 cardio. They are doing a lot sprinting and running routes at full speed.

You said very jacked. There are not many very jacked football players, and those that are do not have big legs.

And again, he said natural.

These are also genetic freaks.

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What… lol. There are not many jacked NFL players. Ok…

Some people prefer to be lied to. Some people prefer to lie to themselves

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Chris Bumstead is very jacked. His job is to be jacked.

Football players job is not to be jacked.

How many are more impressive than DK Metcalf?

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Everyone has a limited recovery ability. Some better than others, but it is finite. That’s a scientific fact. Would you rather spend that recovery ability on a lot of cardio and very little or no muscle gain or limited cardio and better muscle gains? For most of us, that’s any easy choice. Professional athletes, including NFL players are outliers and at the top of the gene pool. So your argument doesn’t hold up.

I fuckin hate the amount of autism that gets brought into the comment section.

People arguing just to argue.

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Was sincerely just going to make an autism comment.

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