[quote]Chushin wrote:
GK’s point is that the US gets heavy criticism for (rarely) doing things that pale in comparison to what happens regularly in Islamic countries. [/quote]
And yet, the US has the highest per capita rate of incarceration of any country in the world?
What you call “Islamic countries” have mostly tyrannical autocratic regimes and those systems are universally criticized.
Never! I might try to mitigate the situation if somebody involved in the discussion openly calls for violence against “them”. But no more, no less, than I give a “pass” to the USA when aggression is contemplated.
[quote]Chushin wrote:
Cockney Blue wrote:
Gkhan wrote:
Obviously someone with a fake passport would raise a red flag.
I do not think his treatment was any worse than if he were a woman guilty of adultry or a gay person in an Islamic country.
You condemn his treatment for traveling on a friend’s passport, yet give the Iranians a pass for doing worse to women who refused to wear burkas, or being for women’s rights before the Revolution.
It’s too late to act once he’s destroyed a block of apartments and killed hundreds of people.
But the US sets itself up as a paragon of virtue therefore it needs to be held to its own high standards.
So we just need to be more honest about how terrible we are? Then we can avoid criticism?
GK’s point is that the US gets heavy criticism for (rarely) doing things that pale in comparison to what happens regularly in Islamic countries. And yet they get a “pass” by people like Lixy all the time.
Please tell me you’re not saying that makes sense because the US ideals are higher than the Islamic ones. [/quote]
I don’t think the Islamic countries should get a pass. I do however think that the US should be held to its own standards. The US should not hold people without trial, they should not torture people and they should not kidnap people.
They should also not work to undermine democracy in countries where democracy is emerging. (readed failed states for a number of examples of where this has happened.)
[quote]lixy wrote:
Never! I might try to mitigate the situation if somebody involved in the discussion openly calls for violence against “them”. But no more, no less, than I give a “pass” to the USA when aggression is contemplated.[/quote]
you have made excuses for some of the most barbaric regimes in existence, Islamic or otherwise.
But no matter what happens on the world stage, you constantly blame or vilify the US.