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[quote]analog_kid wrote:
I think Dante went to the Tim Sylvia school of how to win in the UFC.

I liked Matt Brown until he went crazy eyes killer because a dude put lime juice in his tabaccy. If that kind of shit sets a guy off that bad I’d hate to see him lose his composure when the shit really hits the fan. Grow up dude.

Dana White thinks he is on HBO’s Deadwood.

With the exception of Charles Bennett, Rampage might be the funniest guy in MMA. [/quote]

Good post.

Seriously, J May is completely annoying but to allow him to be unnerving - c’mon dood, you flat out took the bait. I can’t believe nobody mentioned that until now. His best comment was “oh, are we cool like that?” which attempted to insinuate that he can possess a sense of humor, but other than that, just over the top…

this guy must not have many friends if he’s never had something similar happen before. He would have been better off calling him punk and then spritzing his pillow:) Messing with Brown’s dip IMO was the only thing on that show that May did that wasn’t entirely annoying.

And oh, btw…Rampage is funny as hell but Forrest is right there with him, just not as often.

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Some of the greats by Rampage:

“Don’t let him knee you in the butt. It don’t feel good.”

"He don’t listen, thats my evalutation for him "

“Push him off, like you a prisoner, and hes tryna get yo booty”

"I think I�??m probably one of the coolest people on planet earth. I�??m nonchalant. I can get along with anybody. I could be friends with anybody. Guy, girl, dog, alien - if they don�??t try to eat me, I can be friends with them.�??

I’m really looking forward to Matt Brown ripping May apart this week though.

I think one of the big problems TUF is encountering is that with so many MMA organizations starting up it’s hard for them to get any kind of talent to commit for 6 weeks PLUS the time under contract before the finale.

It’s really the sort of case where they’re looking for guys confident enough to forgo what he could make in another organization for the shot at the contract. Of course sometimes when you get that guy, you end up with a pitbull in a cage of poodles (see: Mac Danzig).

About the coaches I think they’re both funny as hell but overall I think as far as cornering goes you can’t beat what Serra does for his fighters. His record in TUF6, and basically TUF4 where he was the de facto captain speaks for themselves.
Maybe they need to do another comeback season like TUF4. Lutter was a bust, but Serra should do well at 155.

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[quote]Seego wrote:
I’m really looking forward to Matt Brown ripping May apart this week though.
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I won’t argue that that is the result I am hoping for but I am not counting May out by any means.

Take Brandon for example, you chalk a guy up to a loss before he even enters the ring and that is the equivalent of “nothing to lose” which is extremely dangerous. Whether it be a landing a haymaker or slipping an armbar anything can happen. See Nate Diaz…he can be getting the piss beat out of him and still finds a way.

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The funny thing about May is that he actually thinks he has a stand up game. He flails his arms around with his chin in the air waiting to get chin-checked. To my delight, Brown’s boxing background makes this a likely outcome. May’s head is going to get bounced. From his talk, May knows some BJJ, however, Brown has pretty good takedown defense which should nullify a submission victory.

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[quote]Hodgie wrote:
The funny thing about May is that he actually thinks he has a stand up game. He flails his arms around with his chin in the air waiting to get chin-checked. To my delight, Brown’s boxing background makes this a likely outcome. May’s head is going to get bounced. From his talk, May knows some BJJ, however, Brown has pretty good takedown defense which should nullify a submission victory. [/quote]

Damn good points, but May must have seen something…he basically hand picked the fight. I know the clock is ticking and everyone wants to fight early and get as much time off as possible, but why select Brown?

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[quote]Hodgie wrote:
The funny thing about May is that he actually thinks he has a stand up game. He flails his arms around with his chin in the air waiting to get chin-checked. To my delight, Brown’s boxing background makes this a likely outcome. May’s head is going to get bounced. From his talk, May knows some BJJ, however, Brown has pretty good takedown defense which should nullify a submission victory. [/quote]

They all need to just shut up. There is more drama on TUF than on Days of our lives. Credeur thinks he’s in real life 300 for fucks sake. Has he ever said anything without using warrior and battle metaphors?

I’m pretty sure Brown is going to kill May, but he is still a little girl in my book. I hope May keeps sticking annoying him.

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Both fights tonight were horrible. I’ve never seen guys so bad on the ground and give up the mount so easily. No one has any stamina, either.

I’ve yet to see 1 guy that has a legit future in the UFC on this show.

Thankfully Rampage is funny as hell and is just about the only reason to keep watching.

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[quote]Djwlfpack wrote:
Thankfully Rampage is funny as hell and is just about the only reason to keep watching.[/quote]

“I got contro-ol!! I got contro-ol!!”

Hahaha!

I had to do a double take when Dana said the second fight was awesome. It looked like they were both drunk off their asses. I wonder if the ratings are slipping, because I think they’re having the last 3 first round fights next week.

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[quote]Doug Adams wrote:
Djwlfpack wrote:
Thankfully Rampage is funny as hell and is just about the only reason to keep watching.

“I got contro-ol!! I got contro-ol!!”

Hahaha!

I had to do a double take when Dana said the second fight was awesome. It looked like they were both drunk off their asses. I wonder if the ratings are slipping, because I think they’re having the last 3 first round fights next week. [/quote]

That had my wife cracking up.

I agree, that 2nd fight was definitely not awesome. Both gassed early and if anyone had any stamina, they could’ve maybe put some power behind their punches and KO’d the other guy.

Even in the 2nd round when Dan had the mount, his punches were real weak and the only reason the fight was stopped is b/c it didn’t look like the position was going to change anytime soon.

Yes, ratings are down for this season. They are the lowest in the series’ history.

The coaches are really the only reason to watch this show anymore. I think people are tired of watching guys act like retards in a nice house, and watching mediocre fights.

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[quote]Djwlfpack wrote:
I think people are tired of watching guys act like retards in a nice house, and watching mediocre fights.[/quote]

I know I am. Training and the fights is all I want to see. Watching idiots breaking down walls and doors and doing shots is NOT entertainment.

Also as noted above, everyone seems to be gassing real early. Is this a sign of their lack of training, or is it something we’re not seeing from the show; too much partying? too much training? I don’t know but that last fight was so painful to watch. Dana White saying it was an awesome fight was a pitiful attempt to make the show come across as something other than horribly boring.

I’d like to see the show turn into some sort of losers of the UFC type thing. Where they take guys with potential. Ring experience and losing records and put them together with the same sort of coach / team set up and winner gets a chance to get back in the UFC lime light. I know they did that once so to speak, but there is a lot more talent out there to use again.

I also think they should do a “Round Two” version where you take the original season 1 and have the go again (if you could get them all to agree). It would be interesting to see it all play out now that there is a lot more training and such. I know there is a million reasons it would never happen, but just some ideas.

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The reason we’re getting such low grade contestants is as I said earlier, there’s too much opportunity for good or even decent fighters for them to want to commit so much of their time under a UFC lockout where they earn nothing.
They’d rather just fight with a smaller organization and make sure money.

Even the best fighters as of late certainly aren’t going to compare to the talents of the first seasons. Mac tore up TUF6 but I don’t think he’s gonna have the effect in LW that Florian or Stevenson do. When’s the last time we’ve seen guys come out of TUF that can rival Forrest, Koscheck, Sanchez or even someone like Rashad Evans

They need to change the formula up bad, I agree with the idea of doing another “Comeback” show or something along those lines.
Matt Riddle said in an interview that the majority of this season’s fighters have already been cut from their contracts. Even the UFC knows they got a dud this round.

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Does anyone know who(or why)the other two fighters are on the big banner above the octagon? It looks like GSP and maybe Rashad Evans? I’ve yet to get a good look. Am I missing something obvious here?

They should just cancel TUF and give Rampage his own reality show. Seriously, those two fights were sad. Of the 4 guys who fought on the last episode, all gassed inside of 120 seconds for fucks sake. (Though listening to Forrest scream like a girl was pretty damn awesome. Reminded me of Lou Ferrigno in Pumping Iron: “I WANNA BEAT HIM!”)

Seego, every time I wee Ewa I forget my name and drool all over my keyboard. Never change your shit.

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[quote]analog_kid wrote:
Does anyone know who(or why)the other two fighters are on the big banner above the octagon? It looks like GSP and maybe Rashad Evans? I’ve yet to get a good look. Am I missing something obvious here?

They should just cancel TUF and give Rampage his own reality show. Seriously, those two fights were sad. Of the 4 guys who fought on the last episode, all gassed inside of 120 seconds for fucks sake. (Though listening to Forrest scream like a girl was pretty damn awesome. Reminded me of Lou Ferrigno in Pumping Iron: “I WANNA BEAT HIM!”)

Seego, every time I wee Ewa I forget my name and drool all over my keyboard. Never change your shit. [/quote]

Yes, Rampage needs his own reality show. That would be must-see TV.

As for the pics on the wall, I’m not really sure why they are there along with the 2 coaches. I thought the other guy was Anderson Silva, but I honestly haven’t taken a close look. I’ll look around for some photos of it…

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[quote]JohnnyNinja wrote:
Djwlfpack wrote:

Also as noted above, everyone seems to be gassing real early. Is this a sign of their lack of training, or is it something we’re not seeing from the show; too much partying? too much training? I don’t know but that last fight was so painful to watch. [/quote]

They looked like they were fighting in Mile High Stadium.

In sand

…and

underwater

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Biggest upset of the season and nobody’s talking about it? That knockout was SICK. I dont know whether to believe gerald (if that was his name, i never catch their names) but whetehr he was out or not, my jaw hit the floor with that knee and stayed there for a while.

And whats up with teh boston guy talking crap to forrest? I’m surprised forrest didnt lose it on him. I woulda paid to have seen matt hughes’ reaction to some nobody telling him to get back to his corner, haha

I think people are being too negative. In the first place, EVERY season starts out like this. It’s true, a couple of seasons ago I went back to some posts I’d made at the beginning of the season and saw how much my opinion of the cast had changed.

Ok, granted they had fights to make sure only the top 16 got in, but now we’re down to the top 8 and the to p4 oughta be really good.

Additionally, people complaining about teh second fight from last week, the pretty boy vs the one with the impossible name. Yeah, technique wise, endurance wise it wasnt the best. But I’ll tell you what, they laid it out there.

I dont care if they were in unacceptable shape, or if the adrenaline dump just had them shootin their load in teh first 90 seconds, the fact is that they were drained and they STILL let it all hang out and swung for the fences.

Take what you can get, people. Yeah, there have been some AWESOME fight nights, so you cant use the argument that it’s free, they can put whatever tehy want on there, but nobody is getting a title shot out of this.

It’s billed as, for all intents and purposes, a developmental contract. Maybe they do need to change the format, more coaching, no title-holding coaches, no exclusivity-til-after-the-finals contracts, whatever, but its still one of the few shows that I tivo every week.

and failing that, yes, the rampage reality show would have my eyeballs every week

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I love it when a guy does nothing but talk about how great his stand up is and then wins a fight on the ground.

The guy from Boston has some interesting striking technique. Like throwing haymakers at a guy’s nuts.

Rampage bets his purse on the fight with Forrest not go to a decision. That rules. (Not that he really has much to worry about in my opinion.)

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The 2nd fight of this week show with the slugger(heyhey) from Boston…Well 2 guys with good stand-up…ahah…i was yelling,get your fucking hands up, used your jabs(rampage keep telling him)…Boston brawler not listening,pathetic!!

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[quote]analog_kid wrote:

Rampage bets his purse on the fight with Forrest not go to a decision. That rules. (Not that he really has much to worry about in my opinion.)

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Does that mean he can get KTFO and still win the bet?

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Who won the fight between Brown and the annoying guy?

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[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
Who won the fight between Brown and the annoying guy?[/quote]

Brown by kick in the face-plate.