[quote]cycobushmaster wrote:
***** Episode 2 *****
his guy clearly gassed and lost his edge. wasn’t much better of a fight than the first episode, but Brock’s guy won by heart and conditioning.
as far as the d-bag wanting to go home…well, he’s a d-bag.
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^^Totally agree. Dude gassed and lost… two incredibly boring fights down and I hope this season picks up soon.
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as far as the try-outs, a couple guys from my gym tried out for this season, and bitched aabout the process. still, i’ve subbed them or taken them down at will, and i’m a senior BJJ white belt (at best), so i dunno… not saying TV majic ins’t in there, but the guys i know that tried out suck at BJJ and wrestling.[/quote]
^^Well I guess theres a reason why they tried out and didnt make it then huh?
I was watching that fight with my 11 year old son, who has been wrestling since Kindergarten and has some boxing under his belt at American Top Team as well and he said (IRT Javier), “that guy is working harder trying to act like the shots don’t hurt and waving the guy on than he is at covering up and creating angles. His foot work is terrible.”
I thought it was hilarious. I just looked at him and said, “yup.”
Maybe there is a method behind Brock’s madness. That guy looked like he started to fade after 3 mins.
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Sounds like a cool kid.
I hope my kids turns out like that.
[quote]Spartiates wrote:
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Sounds like a cool kid.
I hope my kids turns out like that.
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Thanks, man. He is a cool little dude. The athlete I always wished I was…
Silly question?
I have seen Brock’s team use a two-handed gear device/gadget in training. Any idea of what it is called and the purpose of said device? thanks
I think you are talking about the burn machine speedbag ref above.
http://theburnmachine.com/categories/Speed-Bag/[/quote]
[quote]Robert A wrote:
I think you are talking about the burn machine speedbag ref above.
http://theburnmachine.com/categories/Speed-Bag/
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Thanks! Is this a normal training tool? I’ve never seen it used before.
[quote]TheDudeAbides wrote:
[quote]Robert A wrote:
I think you are talking about the burn machine speedbag ref above.
http://theburnmachine.com/categories/Speed-Bag/
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Thanks! Is this a normal training tool? I’ve never seen it used before.[/quote]
I know guys that love them. I’ve used it a few times.
If I were in school in or something where I had a hard time getting to a gym or was training out of a duffel-bag (buisness trip too I guess) for an extended period I might get one.
well, i’m glad Brock explained the chicken salad-chicken shit analogy…
kinda weird that Brock missed out on the fight. i guess they all have personal and media commitments, but it’s still kind d-baggy (is that a word?)…
damn…Rd 1 was nuts. both had a mirror image knockdown, and both had good Gnp/control…the best round of the season so far, esp with striking success and sub attempts.
rd 2 was pretty even, but far less accurate. i really thought they should have had a 3rd round…
i thought Brock’s guy was more aggressive, but Dos Antos’s guy was more accurate. i do think it was a good pick by Brock, since his guy was getting antsy and wound up. still, for a puncher, they should have looked for a shorter guy…
best fight this season by far.
[quote]cycobushmaster wrote:
well, i’m glad Brock explained the chicken salad-chicken shit analogy…
kinda weird that Brock missed out on the fight. i guess they all have personal and media commitments, but it’s still kind d-baggy (is that a word?)…
damn…Rd 1 was nuts. both had a mirror image knockdown, and both had good Gnp/control…the best round of the season so far, esp with striking success and sub attempts.
rd 2 was pretty even, but far less accurate. i really thought they should have had a 3rd round…
i thought Brock’s guy was more aggressive, but Dos Antos’s guy was more accurate. i do think it was a good pick by Brock, since his guy was getting antsy and wound up. still, for a puncher, they should have looked for a shorter guy…
best fight this season by far.
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I thought for sure the way DosSantos’ guy was dropping his right hand when he would jab that he was going to get KTFO. It looked very easy to time and capitalize on.
Lucky for him he has a good chin. The way he stiffened up on that first knockdown made me think he was out. Both guys showed a lot of determination.
Damn, now for the first time in my life i~m eager to see Tuf Noobs brawlin’ out
well, tonight’s fight started off slow, but ended up okay…
JDS’s guy had a good Greco clinch, albeit boring for the first round. Brock’s guy clearly gassed, and was done when the 2nd started. he gave up the RNC and took that way out… JDS’s guy did a good job with control, and seemed to take next to no damage and wasn’t tired at all. i hate the greco style of fighting, but it’s damn effective…
i thought Brock’s rant was kind of out of line at the end, and good to see someone walk out on that. i think his fighter deserved it from tonight, but the other guys didn’t quite, even if they got beat.
[quote]cycobushmaster wrote:
well, tonight’s fight started off slow, but ended up okay…
JDS’s guy had a good Greco clinch, albeit boring for the first round. Brock’s guy clearly gassed, and was done when the 2nd started. he gave up the RNC and took that way out… JDS’s guy did a good job with control, and seemed to take next to no damage and wasn’t tired at all. i hate the greco style of fighting, but it’s damn effective…
i thought Brock’s rant was kind of out of line at the end, and good to see someone walk out on that. i think his fighter deserved it from tonight, but the other guys didn’t quite, even if they got beat.[/quote]
So in Brock Lesnar’s world going fetal for minutes at a time in a fight is laudable, but tapping immediately to a RNC is worthy of condemnation. Do I have this right? Also, wasn’t the guy who walked out the one who fought when Brock was not there? Or do I have it wrong?
[quote]Robert A wrote:
So in Brock Lesnar’s world going fetal for minutes at a time in a fight is laudable, but tapping immediately to a RNC is worthy of condemnation. Do I have this right? Also, wasn’t the guy who walked out the one who fought when Brock was not there? Or do I have it wrong?[/quote]
Yeah, he was on personal business when he fought.
The psychology of that is always interesting to me. The kid has the opportunity of a lifetime and terminates it by taking a way out. A loss is one thing, giving up entirely another.
History has shown that guys who have lost have gotten fights after the show. How you present makes a huge difference. I suspect that guy slammed the door on Zuffa opportunity.
I think JDS’s guy looked like a grappler with reasonable stand-up. It will be interesting to see how he does.
Brock is no Lombardi.
[quote]apwsearch wrote:
Yeah, he was on personal business when he fought.
The psychology of that is always interesting to me. The kid has the opportunity of a lifetime and terminates it by taking a way out. A loss is one thing, giving up entirely another.
History has shown that guys who have lost have gotten fights after the show. How you present makes a huge difference. I suspect that guy slammed the door on Zuffa opportunity.
I think JDS’s guy looked like a grappler with reasonable stand-up. It will be interesting to see how he does.
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Thanks. I think the finale performance will really determine the kid’s future. I am wondering why Brock’s assistant coaches who have more experience are not a little more involved with things? Editing?
well, i suspect Erik Paulson runs the show for Brock, and it sounds like Lew runs JDS’s show.
[quote]apwsearch wrote:
The psychology of that is always interesting to me. The kid has the opportunity of a lifetime and terminates it by taking a way out. A loss is one thing, giving up entirely another.
History has shown that guys who have lost have gotten fights after the show. How you present makes a huge difference. I suspect that guy slammed the door on Zuffa opportunity.
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yeah, i agree… i have a rather harsh view on people that tap to chokes on the show. i’ve gone out before, as has everyone i’ve rolled with. not haphazardly, but trying to fight through… and that’s in practice. i think on the show i’d be sawing my own leg off to win…
still, i’m not there so it’s pretty easy for me to be critical when i’m “sitting on the couch drinking beer and eating pizza!”
[quote]cycobushmaster wrote:
[quote]apwsearch wrote:
The psychology of that is always interesting to me. The kid has the opportunity of a lifetime and terminates it by taking a way out. A loss is one thing, giving up entirely another.
History has shown that guys who have lost have gotten fights after the show. How you present makes a huge difference. I suspect that guy slammed the door on Zuffa opportunity.
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yeah, i agree… i have a rather harsh view on people that tap to chokes on the show. i’ve gone out before, as has everyone i’ve rolled with. not haphazardly, but trying to fight through… and that’s in practice. i think on the show i’d be sawing my own leg off to win…
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No doubt it is too easy to throw bombs at the guy while we are sitting on the couch drinking beer but the guy that tapped that quick is a pussy. The RNC was on for about a nanosecond. It is not like his elbow was in danger of being broken. He quit and likely that will be the last time we see him fight in the UFC octagon. Dana White loves a tough loser but hates a quitter.
I saw in an interview that Brock said he and JDS were in the same room about a total of 30 minutes over the six weeks this was filmed. I expect no fireworks between the two. I like them both so far. Different attitudes but both acting like pros.
this season is turning out weird. seems like most of the fighters are decent all-around, but few have shown to be truly dominant. i wonder if that’s gamesmanship on their part…
not sure with what’s going on with JDS and Lew…i’ve read some articles by Lew, and it seems like JDS is bothered by Lew taking his limelight, prolly due to JDS’s limited English. IMO it looks like Lew is trying to do the right thing in training.
first fight: JDS’s guy came out waayyy to hard…he almost overwhelmed Brock’s guy Tony at first, but definately “blew his wad.” Tony had a good jab, and his footwork and head movement looks decent. the upkick KO was damn impressive. btw, i could not understand JDS or his coaches. prolly a bad call getting rid of Lew, like they said…
second fight: JDS’s guy had a good double and outside leg trip…he used his striking to transition to grappling well. both guys were actively looking for submissions as well, which is rare in this season. the triangle was nice, but it seemed like Brock’s guy tapped fast…apparently it was sunk tight.
wild card…sucks for the fella that was picked but on medical suspension. Javier vs Chcuk should be a good fight.
it’s a weird dynamic between JDS and Brock, as DFW pointed out. kinda nice not to see as much drama as in previous season, though…