I’ve come upon something that is pretty unique I believe. Was wondering if anyone else has seen the same thing.
When I put a dosage in steroidplotter it tells me what the release rate of T will be throughout the week. My recent discovery is that my Total Test number corresponds very closely to the number reported from steroid plotter. As an example steroid plotter says that if I take 70mg once a week that my highest release will be 10.78 at peek and and 4.38 at the trough.
Interestingly, I’ve found that all i have to do is multiply the release number by 100 and my blood numbers will nearly exactly match that. So I already know that my peak will be 1078 and my trough will be 468.
A couple of questions. Anyone else see this same scenario with your bloodwork matching steroidplotter? Is this a good peek and trough for a run of the mill TRT plan?
It is if you are happy with your results. As for a run of the mill TRT plan, far from it. I do have a couple of guys using 70mg/week, however, they are dosing daily. They are dosing that low to work around adverse effects.
I can roughly predict my trough using steroidplotter. Let’s say I have a trough of 7.95 on steroidplotter which corresponds with 650ng/dl on a lab test, I can divide 650 by 7.95, and multiply that by whatever the steroidplotter trough is on a higher dose, and lab tests have always been pretty close. Generally, for me, it’s a waste of time and mental masturbation to be honest as I’ve never found a magic number and it tends to lead to me overthinking, which I believe contributes to my perceived trt side effects more than the trt itself.
But have never checked peak on a lab test to confirm it’s as accurate for a peak reading. I don’t think steroid plotter is necessarily designed to accurately track blood levels day to day so it would be a rough estimate, probably good enough unless you want to hit a very specific peak number for some reason.
Thank you. Would your guys running 70mg/week have peaks of over 1000 and a trough of 468 if doing every 7 days? I feel like I’m super sensitive to Testosterone. As an example, if I take 140mg per week my peak is over 2000 and my trough around 900. Would that be an outlier in your experience?
That’s good to hear that in your case and mine at least there is a correlation. Mine happens to be basically the exact number steroidplotter spits out. I just have to add a couple of zeros and it will match my blood number.
I’m not trying to hit a specific number really. Just trying to find out if I’m an outlier when it comes to getting high numbers with pretty small dosages. I’ve had hematocrit reach 59.7 on higher dosages and am wondering if I’m really just not cut out to take larger dosages that would be normal to most folks.
Your true peak may allude you. Men typically peak anywhere between 10-18 hours. Timing is critical. You might as well be throwing darts at the dartboard in the dark.
We don’t intentionally check peaks. If we get that, they forgot or misunderstood lab timing instructions. Off the top of my head, I’d say trough of 650-700. There aren’t many 10mg daily. Usually, not many daily either, it’s 15mg and some 20mg.
Is that one dose? If so, I’d say it’s high, but not crazy high.
No, I have no idea how you as an individual would respond. I can tell you this:
I skipped injections for three weeks once, just as an experiment. By the end of the first week, I was fine. By the end of the second week, I could tell I’d missed some doses, but I was OK, not as though I couldn’t workout or wasn’t interested in sex. By the end of the third week…let’s just say experiment over.
Correct. However, some are bothered by even slight fluctuations. There is an oral commercial product available, taken twice daily. Some (not most) that use trans dermal creams apply them twice daily. Just wait, eventually, someone will be on the internet touting twice daily injections, micro dosing test because they do not want to take a massive dose and want to be smooth and steady.
Understood. I’m personally trying to find out if I’m an outlier who doesn’t do well with high test. I know for a fact that if I take 200mg on a Monday, I’ll have zero libido until 9-10 later.
Then when I punch 200mg into steroidplotter, I find out that the T release 9-10 days after a 200mg shot is roughly 5.5-6.5 units. Having just recently discovered by looking back at my labs, I know that corresponds to a Total T of 550-650.
So the reason I asked about 70 a week is at least I can tell my wife, look babe, i’m going to take a 70mg shot on Monday before work and by the weekend I should be in that 550 range and be ready and able to go.
I think this is coincidence. SP is estimating the amount (in mg) of testosterone released each day based on the starting dose and the ester attached. It has no correlation with your hormone markers measured in ng/dL. You could use this once you have blood work at a particular point and then estimate what mg released corresponds with that TT level.
1000ng trough and SP says you released 11.5mg of test that day, you’d know that each mg release gives you 87ng/dL of TT. That kind of thing. I have tried to use this to determine where I’ll land at certain times of the week and it has not lined up. But we are all different.
It’s pretty uncanny though. I’ve posted the steroid plotter from my last blood test. SP showed the release at 7.86 for that 14th day. My actual blood test which was 775. Every time I do this it works out the same way. I’m sure it’s not a universal rule that applies to everyone but it works out well for me.
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You will level your peaks/valleys and your T will be consistent. Next, lower the dose to like 10-15mg for injection. Then work to find a good level of TRT dose that keeps your pretty good on T/E2 and libido and overall feeling.
I run about 30-35mg/week this way and my levels are 550-600 on labs. But, everyone is different.
Giant doses cause giant spikes, your body doesn’t naturally work that way. Normal people have a slight rise in the morning and lower in the afternoon, but it is so small the peak/valley. This giant dose will spike T/E2 levels, then let me guess, you have like 1 day when you feel really good, libido is good right?
