Trump: The First Year

Trying to compare MJ to Washington as an analogy to Tubman/Jackson doesn’t make any sense.

MJ is arguably the best professional basketball player of all-time, but that’s it. He’s famous/rich for being a great athlete. Harriet Tubman is a significant historical figure as is Jackson and, while she may not have achieved as much depending on how you quantify it, she would not be out of place on our currency at all.

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I removed the Sessions testimony and placed it over on the Russian thread.

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I am intrigued (and mildly nauseated) by Raj’s view. If I can make an analogy, it’s like someone who pined for and idolized about becoming a member of a fraternity. He idealizes the members, who are different looking and acting than him, and sees those like himself as somehow lesser than the popular bros of the fraternity. He reads sweeping sagas of the past glories of the fraternity, closing his eyes tightly and seeing himself as an actor in these scenes. Oh, if only he could be one of them!

Finally, he gets in! Oh, joy! But, wait, what’s this? There’s talk of the fraternity no longer being an elitist club, but opening their doors to the very people he tried to separate himself from. He can’t understand why they would want to change, why they would want to let in those that do not honor and worship their traditions, who have not memorized their sacred writings and hold them dearly. He rails against this, warning that these new, darker toned members will want to change the frat house, posting their own memorabilia on the walls, putting their own spices and seasonings in the frat house dining hall food. He will no longer be seen as “special” among his new blonde comrades if others of his ilk are allowed to roam these historic halls.

Now, anger! He has found out a small sect is also railing against membership changes. They are speaking loudly and forcefully about the dangers of inclusivity, about losing the frat’s cherished traditions. But more, they are using fear and division to keep the doors shut to those that don’t look like the frat house members of yore. Raj puts on his headphones and listens intently to their nightly sermons, his fists becoming clenched with anger as listens to his newfound heroes spit vitriol. In an unlikely twist of events, Raj takes up the cause to hold back the very people that are like him from gaining access to this club he fought hard to become part of. He idealizes a past and a way of life that was set up to keep people just like him on the outside looking in. He seethes with anger as the majority of the frat members speak of inclusitivity, compassion, and respect to all people.

Sorry for the long post.

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No apology needed this is pretty well spot on and finely written.

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I recognize if things continue America in 50-70 years will look like this.

Do you have a single shred of evidence that will happen to America?

For example, can you produce an example of a 1st world country that has fallen to that level?

Yeah there are huge gaps in wealth inequality by race and inequality continues to grow

And where exactly have you found the evidence that leads you to think the picture you posted is guaranteed to happen if wealth inequality keeps going?

Especially considering nobody has wealth gaps like America, so I would assume that picture should have already happened yes?

What do you mean where have I found evidence? I just told you.

Income inequality is continually growing along racial lines and as the poorer groups continue to make a larger portion of society, society will bifurcate

I believe income inequality is growing. What I don’t believe is that income inequality = that pic you posted.

Out of curiosity, has the income inequality in the country you posted even hit America levels yet?

The bulk of low skilled labor comes from people of color per capita. As automation looms, the bulk of these people will not be able to sell their labor.

The small amount of high skilled labor which machines can’t replace will hold vast amounts of wealth while the rest live poorly

So no, you don’t have any evidence that picture will happen. It’s just what you believe. Gotcha

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You ignoring my explanation doesn’t make it untrue

Continued Automation of low skilled jobs is a fact

People of color making up a disproportionate amount of low skilled jobs is a fact

The portion of the population that is POC is growing rapidly is a fact

Inequality by race is huge is a fact

I agree with all of these facts. I just don’t agree they guarantee the picture you posted.

Very little in life is guaranteed. But that is the current trajectory of the US if nothing changes

Why is that picture more likely than a civil war where poor is pitted vs rich? Or a shift into a strongly socialized country? Or any number of possible scenarios. Have you seen 1 real world example of a 1st world country falling prey to turning into that picture?

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The US is heading towards a demographic makeup similar to Latin America where IIRC has the greatest wealth inequality in the world.

If only this information was available…


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https://www.google.com/amp/amp.weforum.org/agenda/2016/01/inequality-is-getting-worse-in-latin-america-here-s-how-to-fix-it

Then why are you (or at least most conservatives) against raising the minimum wage? Where I live, the minimum wage is $15/hour. Most liberals are very much in favor of raising the minimum wage, installing programs that allow “people of color” (that make up the low skilled jobs you site) to have access to University and STEM education, and creating environments where historically underrepresented groups can excel.

Your arguments are all over the map. You appear to have read enough headlines to know some buzz words but haven’t received the training or have the natural ability to formulate and/or articulate a coherent picture of reality.

With all this posturing and guessing, there’s one thing we all know for sure: change will occur. Impermanence is true of all things and situations. I for one am inspired by today’s youth, as I teach college students from all nationalities and see how vibrant, intelligent, and inclusive they are compared to past generations.

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