Trump Tests Positive for COVID-19

[NickViar]

@Alrightmiami19c

Correct, i wasnt linking to a Northam story, just stating he tested positive yesterday.

The Coonster tested positive last month.

[dcb]

@strongmangoals

Many people will be looking at Joe Biden as either the mouth piece for the true candidate or in it for a year at best before having to hand over.

Today showed why Harris dropped out of the presidential candidate race so early. Bad day for her and all those people in the above category will consider their vote for Biden more carefully

It also opens the door for Trump, Pence displayed that if he can handle not being the centre of attention for 2 seconds he might have a chance.

lol I liked the Joe Biden fly squatter picture

Anybody who thinks that Biden is a mouthpiece and/or is only in for a year probably listens to Alex Jones, is a Qanon supporter, etc. In other words, they’re voting for Trump already. That’s why this debate was unlikely to move the needle. The vast majority of people have made up their minds already.

To be fair it was unlikely to do much anyway. We are talking about VP’s right? Remember John Nance observed: “the vice presidency is not worth a bucket of warm spit.”

I think Pence did the best he could with a hand full of shit cards. He deflected, didn’t answer questions and turned some things around in a non-sensical way that may have fooled some fools, or relieved some cognitive dissonance in others. Harris was just OK. I didn’t like that fact that she wouldn’t answer the question about stacking the supreme court and that she failed to be critical of violent protesters when she easily could have. But those two omissions probably don’t matter to a lot of others.

So they both just played to their bases for the most part.

[Legalsteel]

@dcb

But those two omissions probably don’t matter to a lot of others.

Don’t be so sure. Do VP debates matter? Not really. But they’re both being cagey about these two issues precisely because they know they’d be damaging no matter which side they came down on.

[loppar]

An even more glaring omission was that both refused to comment on the fact that two men aged 77 and 74 are looking for a four year term and their roles.

And to think that people were obsessing about McCain’s age when he was running against Obama.

[Legalsteel]

@loppar

An even more glaring omission was that both refused to comment on the fact that two men aged 77 and 74 are looking for a four year term and their roles

It’s no omission when we know the answer to the question. Both of them are are one bad week from pushing their septuagenarian counterparts down the nearest set of stairs.

[dcb]

@Legalsteel

@dcb

But those two omissions probably don’t matter to a lot of others.

Don’t be so sure. Do VP debates matter? Not really. But they’re both being cagey about these two issues precisely because they know they’d be damaging no matter which side they came down on.

I agree with you but I think you’re emphasizing the point I was making in that they’re both just playing to their bases for the most part. Harris was more reserved in that sense which does make sense in that they’re in the lead so there’s little reason to play offense. Pence had to play offense more, but he failed to do that in my opinion.

[dcb]

@loppar

An even more glaring omission was that both refused to comment on the fact that two men aged 77 and 74 are looking for a four year term and their roles.

And to think that people were obsessing about McCain’s age when he was running against Obama.

It’s kinda’ a wash then right? Biden’s a little older but appears to be in better shape than the obese Trump. We’ve got two very senior citizens as our choices so there’s no separation there.

[Legalsteel]

@dcb

they’re both just playing to their bases for the most part

Mostly agree. I would say that Biden and Harris being cagey about the court and Antifa is more about playing to the base while avoiding any statements that could cost them middle of the pack voters.

[strongmangoals]

@strongmangoals

Dafuq is Trump doing delaying the stimulus?

Looks like internal polling suggested this (and his COVID antics) didn’t go down so well with likely voters.

[Aragorn]

@strongmangoals

Trump got in because of the presidents who preceded him

You’re right, and the logical side of me knows that. It’s still both interesting and frustrating.

There’s no doubt politicians are dirtier than what we see either, sadly.

@dt79

What’s the context(if any even exists)?

I don’t even ask any more lol.

[pat]

@Aragorn

Man, if Nixon had done HALF the shit that Trump has he’d never have even been a candidate. He would have been ostracised from the start.

Nixon opened up communist China, which has turned out to be a disaster, and started the war on drugs. He sucked for that alone.

@Aragorn

I was on your side I’m the original debate pat, and argued againsted it for a long time. But I’ve come to believe the deal was - while not NEARLY as effectively bargained as it should have been due to Obama’s bad negotiating - a net positive. At least up until Trump basically took us out.

And I don’t trust Trump’s negotiating. Actually even less (much less) than I trusted Obama’s…which was very close to not at all.

Despite the doubts, I did read the whole stinking mess, even the provisions for ship building and plane commerce. Even if it wasn’t falling apart, it was a bad deal for the U.S. Iran got all the benefits and we got a pinky swear they wouldn’t attempt to build nuclear weapons for 15 years, essentially. It’s a little more complex than that, but after 15 years of good faith, their would be little in the way of monitoring and assurance. That being 5 years ago and Iran is still a sworn enemy of the U.S and there’s 10 years left on the deal, that bodes little confidence.
All the while, the deal if it worked as designed was only supposed to slow development of a war head by 10 months. Better than nothing, but a lousy exchange for what we gave up and would continue give up over time.
If you’re Iran, it was a great deal. If your the U.S. you’re relying on the threat of sanction snap-backs if they violated the deal.
Well, the E3 countries still involved, which is still a good deal for Iran, cannot get full compliance from Iran, yet, no sanctions are ‘snapping’ back from those countries.
In short, everything I thought was wrong with the deal and would be a problem,at the time, is and has been. And if lowly me could figure that out, it damn sure didn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out it was never going to work.
Obama was the Nevil Chamberlain of negotiators. Give up a lot for a little and get run over anyway.

The deal is somewhere out there still, read it for yourself. You don’t have to take my word for it, but tell me when you do, if you do not find yourself inadvertently facepalming.

[pat]

I got that hillary vibe from Kamala… Scowling, smirking, laughing… Weird.

[pat]

We do know that they are planning on packing the court. That came over crystal clear…

[Legalsteel]

@pat

got that hillary vibe from Kamala…

Likewise. But I wasn’t the biggest fan of Robocop Kamala to start with.

[Legalsteel]

@pat

That came over crystal clear…

And Mike Pence got one of his best lines of the night on foot of that.

[pat]

I thought it was my implicit bias too. But I found her demeanor creepy and it’s exactly like I felt about hillary. Well, I am sure implicit bias plays a part anyway.

[Legalsteel]

“When I look at the Biden plan, it looks a little bit like plagiarism, which is something Joe Biden knows a little bit about.”

That is line of the night, for the record.

[Legalsteel]

Would it have been too much to have had Gabbard? At least she’s hot, and she’s better than Kamala at debate too.

[NickViar]

@Legalsteel

Would it have been too much to have had Gabbard?

Apparently. I was hoping Trump would dump Pence and bring her along.

[chris_ottawa]

It’s official now, death with COVID equals death from COVID:

The daily pandemic death counts in Ontario include people who have tested positive for COVID-19 but have not necessarily died from the virus.

The exact number of people who fit into this category is unknown by the government and not even being counted.
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Dr. Vivek Goel, a former President and CEO of Public Health Ontario, agrees.
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“Being inclusive in counting all possible cases, as this suggests is the direction, seems to be appropriate to me,” he added.

Ontario death count includes people who didn't die of COVID-19, but exactly...

Considering that nearly everyone who died “from COVID” was supposed to have other comorbidities, has COVID actually killed anyone? If you have the virus and get shot, hit by a train, or jump from a window it’s the COVID that did it.

@NickViar and @everybodygetsone have mentioned this before and I was a bit skeptical, but it’s 100% official now.