There is no question that many, many people do.
Indeed. It seems to me like attempts to diminish the seriousness of the situation. And I don’t get why? Domestic terrorists were organized and invaded the capitol building. Many were injured and some died. They did it in the hopes of having an impact on an election where their candidate lost.
The whole ok the injuries weren’t that bad and representatives weren’t really in danger I’m not sure I get the point. It certainly comes off as “not really a big deal everyone.” Maybe I’m reading it wrong but I don’t see how people don’t think this is a big deal. Is it merely because they were unsuccessful in their goals and not that many people died or were injured as could have been?
I don’t get it either, @H_factor…
How many swollen ankles and wrists? Swollen from force, or swollen from standing up all day? I’m not trying to diminish injuries or justify what happened. I said soon after it happened that it was idiotic.
Did you read the article you posted or did you skip everything except for swollen ankles?
But you already do know why: the same oppositional defiance that Limbaugh (and subsequently Gingrich and now Trump) have made entirely standard (in their tribe’s minds)
On their view, obviously the LiBtaRd dEmS are exaggerating (for the sake of political expediency) practically everything about 1/6/21; the inflammatory rhetoric, the potential danger that Congress members faced, the legit danger that the Capitol Police fully faced, all of it. And thus any such sentiments should be rightly diminished.
And I am thankful for NickViar’s recent posts that illuminate the perspective.
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I read the article. Why?
The Trump worshipping domestic terrorists that invaded the capitol should do serious time alongside the BLM domestic terrorists who’ve been attacking federal property and officers for month upon month.
“Mostly peaceful” doesn’t seem so popular all of a sudden
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You seemed to gloss over things like stabbing.
I’ve said that I’m sure there were real injuries, but so many headlines don’t read, “Two Officers stabbed.” Many read, “150 Officers Injured via Stabbing and other means.”
Edit: and don’t forget the one Police death…via fire extinguisher beating. That was repeated all over.
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But how deep? I mean get back to me when we know how far objects went in. Right now I’m not sure we could call something a stab without more details. You seen the hospital records?
Trump will be speaking at CPAC next week.
It should be interesting to hear the list of Republicans he targets for annihilation.
Meanwhile Democrats are going to have huge grins even if they complain about it. The GOP hitching their wagon (still?!) to him is going to give them a chance to hang onto power in what should (in theory) be a really tough 2022 for them.
You’d think so, but they are resoundingly adept at shooting themselves in the foot. Almost as much as the GOP. The 2020 election was definitely a referendum on Trump but based on the current Democrat platform… Or at least the popular perception of it right or wrong… The Democrats did not win a landslide.
Indeed they did not. But hitching your wagon to someone who came in with full control and left the opposition with total control in just four years is beyond me. Especially if it’s going to let the other side continue to bring up stuff like Jan 6th and make the party be about him and the Majorie Greene types.
I don’t think it’s the smart play for the GOP personally. Not when they could have had a clean break. That keeps the discussion from being what midterms are almost always focused on which historically hasn’t been good for first term Presidents.
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This is an important point, @Aragorn .
While I think that Biden and many of the more experienced DEMS (like Shumer and Pelosi) know this…the Progressive Wing is already acting like the DEMS won some overwhelming mandate by the American People.
That simply is not the case.
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Biden won the popular vote by 4.5% (7 million people). Trump surely lost supporters because of the Jan 6th insurrection. Dems control congress and executive branches. What better time than now to push a partisan liberal agenda? Go balls to the wall. Why not? The 2022 election will again be a referendum on trumpism as trumpist candidates are the only non-democratic choices at this point.
No disagreement, @Californiagrown.
The problem I have with the Progressive Wing (at least at this point) is that they need to chill and let Biden approach his agenda in the systematic way he appears to be approaching it (I kind of wish he didn’t throw immigration into all he is dealing with right now…but I trust his experience).
They sometimes sound like selfish kids when they don’t get anything and everything they want RIGHT NOW!!!
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Well Biden was never a choice of progressives anyways except in comparison to Trump of course. He’s always been bound to disappoint that part of the party. A lot of what anyone sees know is just to be expected from progressives being annoyed at someone who isn’t nearly as progressive as they wanted.
I’m with you on that. I don’t understand it. I mean the democrats will surely have a new strategy for midterms and just beat the everliving shit out of the Trump card when running against their GOP district counterparts. Whether that leads to them retaining seats or not remains to be seen since 2 years is a long time in politics. But I sure wouldn’t want that hanging over my head.
You’re right. They’re idiots. And the main chunk of democrats is trying to limit them in order to not scare off middle of the road types.
You’re not wrong about using your political capital up front, far away from the midterms when there’s time to help cover fallout if things go south. But I’m thinking in terms of party power shifts rather than policy I suppose.
There’s already been plenty of reports about democrats in conference calls trying to figure out how to limit their own fringe. I think Clyburn said something along the lines of “Progressive slogans like ‘Defund the police’ lost us seats in the House”. The centrists do not really want the progressives to blow this for the party.
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