His daughter was there in the Capitol with him.
Ah, what ever.
I don’t actually care.
@SkyzykS …
You are far from being the only person in this World giving Trump a pass.
I get it. You’ve made your point.
Just read his account of the events. First time I’ve thought the “rioters” did anything worth a damn. If they actually had any congressmen cowering under desks, that’s at least something. I have a feeling his tale is entirely BS, though.
I wouldn’t expect much from somebody who put their own kid at risk by putting them into a known dangerous situation like that. I mean, all agencies were only talking about it for weeks in advance.
Maybe he just needed a shield.
Maybe he thought she’d be able to handle it, seeing how she’s 24 years old and had her husband with her…
I gotta admit there is a little egg on my face at this point.
I thought he was gushing about a small child.
But who knows. She might be diminutive. ![]()
I assumed that as well, my friend. Because a 24 year old that says, “Dad, I don’t want to go back to the Capitol,”(or whatever she supposedly said) after a once-in-a-lifetime event would seem in need of services that likely aren’t provided in the Capitol.
Well, damn.
I wonder why they didn’t let Trump and the White House know?
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What I tend to think of a lot just in terms of the recency of the two events is Benghazi. The GOP shrieked for years and did multiple investigations and made Clinton speak on it numerous times. That was a coordinated attack by foreign terrorists on US government buildings.
This was a coordinated attack by domestic terrorists on US government buildings. At a rally funded by campaign dollars of a President who had spent every minute since the election trying to figure out a way to stay in power after losing. From publicly and privately pressuring politicians to pushing conspiracy theories in the hopes of maintaining power.
To me the latter (without attempting to diminish the loss of life in the former) is a much larger attack on the US and its institutions and yet the GOP doesn’t much care about it because they were complicit. Some more than others of course, but the party as a whole absolutely. And one featured more hearings, investigations, etc than the other one is going to get.
But ultimately the GOP doing Democrats favors because nothing increases their chances for staying in power like an active Donald Trump possibly splintering the Republican Party between people like Mitt Romney and Marjorie Greene. At this point you almost have to start asking yourself if Democrats need to pay Trump for the political successes he has given them since obtaining office.
What ever happened to the storyline that trump refused to send in national guard or other reinforcements once the mob had busted into congress looking for hostages and VPs to hang? Didnt he tell a high ranking GOP member who called pleading for help “Well, Kevin, I guess these people are more upset about the election than you are”? Didnt Pence, after barely escaping with his life, have to go around protocols to order national guard to protect congress because turmp wouldnt? How long did it take for trump to tell his sychophants to stop attacking congress after he was notified they had violently stormed the building? And how quickly after his order to his mob, was the attack over?
I believe some of the issue from what I’ve read is that he wasn’t charged with dereliction of duty and more with the incitement. Have to admit I read that article super late at night and can’t remember where it was but had to do with what was cited in the impeachment.
I mean it’s blatantly obvious to all but the most unhinged Trump supporters that he did numerous things before and during the attack which could easily be argued inspired it and possibly lead to it going longer (though that takes a bit more of a stretch).
I mean you’ve got the campaign money spent for the rally, the words, the timeline, and conversations with McCarthy and Tuberville coming out that are pretty damning.
Dereliction of duty almost seems tough because I don’t believe Trump viewed the Presidency as a duty to the country. Can you fail in your duty if you believe your duty is only to yourself and not the country? I dunno.
Thanks for the free rent these past couple months.
Thanks @H_factor and @Californiagrown…
To me; it is beyond hypocrisy and disingenuousness to call out the Impeachment Managers and the overall impeachment of Trump as being hypocritical while remaining moot (and even supportive) of Trump and the Trumpublicans.
I agree with what many have said over the past few months…the actions and behaviors of the Trumpublicans have been extremely disappointing…but not surprising.
I think one can make arguments that he shouldn’t have been impeached no doubt. Not sitting President, unconstitutional perhaps, etc.
But like Mitch McConnell said he’s basically guilty as shit. Republicans were never going to vote any way other than what they did. That was evident since day one.
But you’ve got to be a massive MAGA kool-aid drinker if you’re going to argue the actions of Trump before, during, and after the election didn’t help lead to this. And that his actual response during is arguably one of the least Presidential moments ever. Essentially sitting back while domestic terrorists try and take over government buildings.
The people who did it deserve most of the blame. But the President did everything in his power to try and overturn his loss. The phone call with the Georgia SOS should have been enough alone to have Republicans cut ties with him. But if we remember Republicans were busy suing a handful of states that Trump lost in. Imagine the supposed party of states rights busy suing other states because they don’t like how those states voted.
Since when? There may be a handful of Republicans that support the concept vs. zero Democrats, but that certainly doesn’t make it the Party of.
@H_factor , @Californiagrown and others:
For the sake of discussion; let’s say the Constitutional argument was a legitimate one (and not a cya argument for the Trumpublicans that many feel it was…)
What would have been the best way to 1) hold Trump accountable for his part in the riot and insurrection and 2) make sure that there is a clear and concise historical Congressional record of all proceedings?
I will also ask the Trump apologist the same thing many have asked; what the hell would rise to the level of "High Crimes and Misdemeanors ?
For which part do you want him held accountable?
Trump was not impeached based solely on that speech.