If you are at normal level can you do this to increase muscle mass and strength?

[image] jimg01852: If you have worked out for years, slept well and had proper nutrition it is unlikely you will get significant gains from TRT unless you raise your numbers above the normal range. For me at least I put on a little muscle with TRT. I also got stronger. Those were relatively…

Assuming you meant to reply to me you’re taking free range in expanding past the point I was trying to make. My point was simply that no… 1000ng/dl+ is not what your grandfather had. Further… no, its not a normal range to be in long term. That being said everybody is free to do what they please w…

I am not questioning your dose or people being at 2000 if it makes them feel good and resolves all their issues. ONLY thing I am questioning is saying levels of 1000+ are ‘normal’ or were normal just a few years ago. There is NO data showing that. The very study you cited showed just the opposite. …

[image] dbossa: Every single time I make a mistake, I own up to it. Every. Single. Time. Just trying to help you out @dbossa , but this is what @jimg01852 is talking about. It is possible that you have owned up to every single mistake you have made, but it is so improbable that we can just as…

[image] dbossa: Every single time I make a mistake, I own up to it. Every. Single. Time. This always tells me a lot about the true character of the person saying it. It’s hard to own up to mistakes or to change prior thought processes. It shows someone is thinking and evolving. dbossa is o…

[image] mnben87: (especially as an “expert” I have never (not once) ever referred to myself as an ‘expert’. Other people call me this. I think it’s silly as the more I learn, the more I realize I don’t know. I know more than the general population of men on TRT, fine… but that’s where it e…

[image] dbossa: Every single time I make a mistake, I own up to it. Every. Single. Time. EDIT @roscoe88 this wasn’t directed at you… I made a quote, posted it, and now I don’t know how to fix it! This was actually directed at @jimg01852 To clarify, which you keep insisting I do because you …

[image] dbossa: I have never (not once) ever referred to myself as an ‘expert’. Other people call me this. This is what I was getting at with the quotes. [image] dbossa: To clarify, which you keep insisting I do because you hang on my every word in the literal sense and bring it up the m…

This wasn’t directed at @roscoe88 at all. Might be a screw up in the way I replied. @roscoe88 is a good guy. Apologies for the confusion. See? I did it again! :wink:

I’d rather resolve the symptoms with just testosterone, and be slightly over the range, than take a little bit of testosterone and resolve the rest of my symptoms using other pharmaceuticals. I believe, long term, it would be healthier than the second option. Can we at least agree on that?

TRT At Normal Level to Gain Muscle?

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Coopper October 6, 2020, 9:11pm 52

Can you please check out this thread of mine, because my full blood results are there. Close to the bottom of the page, you can see my Free T levels. It is 22,55 pg/mL
Is it low or ok for my age? Thanks. @dbossa

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