[quote]Sutebun wrote:
Completely relevant
FEMM - Fxxk Boyz Get Money (Music Video) - YouTube [/quote]
LOL I like it.
[quote]spar4tee wrote:
[quote]Sutebun wrote:
Completely relevant
FEMM - Fxxk Boyz Get Money (Music Video) - YouTube [/quote]
LOL I like it.[/quote]
What did I just watch?
[quote]trivium wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
What the fuck is an AFC?[/quote]
AFC = average frustrated chump.[/quote]
So do you think you’re average or not?
I wish someone had given this to me when I was in high school. Would have gone a long way. Give it a read.
[quote]spar4tee wrote:
[quote]trivium wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
What the fuck is an AFC?[/quote]
AFC = average frustrated chump.[/quote]
So do you think you’re average or not?[/quote]
I used to think that I was doing pretty well, but recently I am starting to think that I am just another average joe.
Today was an odd day though.
I had another Rough experience with the first girl I talked to. Went to say hello, and she bitched me out pretty hard. I just said that I didn’t mean to bother her, and told her to have a nice day. She ran after me to apologize. I just said that it was ok, and I turned around and walked away. I have no idea what I did.
I have no idea what that was about.
Otherwise I was 2/3.
[quote]trivium wrote:
[quote]spar4tee wrote:
[quote]trivium wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
What the fuck is an AFC?[/quote]
AFC = average frustrated chump.[/quote]
So do you think you’re average or not?[/quote]
I used to think that I was doing pretty well, but recently I am starting to think that I am just another average joe.
Today was an odd day though.
I had another Rough experience with the first girl I talked to. Went to say hello, and she bitched me out pretty hard. I just said that I didn’t mean to bother her, and told her to have a nice day. She ran after me to apologize. I just said that it was ok, and I turned around and walked away. I have no idea what I did.
I have no idea what that was about.
Otherwise I was 2/3.[/quote]
I think you should’ve kept talking to her, man.
[quote]spar4tee wrote:
[quote]trivium wrote:
[quote]spar4tee wrote:
[quote]trivium wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
What the fuck is an AFC?[/quote]
AFC = average frustrated chump.[/quote]
So do you think you’re average or not?[/quote]
I used to think that I was doing pretty well, but recently I am starting to think that I am just another average joe.
Today was an odd day though.
I had another Rough experience with the first girl I talked to. Went to say hello, and she bitched me out pretty hard. I just said that I didn’t mean to bother her, and told her to have a nice day. She ran after me to apologize. I just said that it was ok, and I turned around and walked away. I have no idea what I did.
I have no idea what that was about.
Otherwise I was 2/3.[/quote]
I think you should’ve kept talking to her, man.[/quote]
Nope. Immediate disrespect warrants an immediate dismissal.
Stop trying to meet a girlfriend. Start trying to meet and engage with people in general. Focus on the process, not the prize. I believe this has been mentioned before but it’s worth repeating.
[quote]Steel Nation wrote:
[quote]spar4tee wrote:
[quote]trivium wrote:
[quote]spar4tee wrote:
[quote]trivium wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
What the fuck is an AFC?[/quote]
AFC = average frustrated chump.[/quote]
So do you think you’re average or not?[/quote]
I used to think that I was doing pretty well, but recently I am starting to think that I am just another average joe.
Today was an odd day though.
I had another Rough experience with the first girl I talked to. Went to say hello, and she bitched me out pretty hard. I just said that I didn’t mean to bother her, and told her to have a nice day. She ran after me to apologize. I just said that it was ok, and I turned around and walked away. I have no idea what I did.
I have no idea what that was about.
Otherwise I was 2/3.[/quote]
I think you should’ve kept talking to her, man.[/quote]
Nope. Immediate disrespect warrants an immediate dismissal.
Stop trying to meet a girlfriend. Start trying to meet and engage with people in general. Focus on the process, not the prize. I believe this has been mentioned before but it’s worth repeating.[/quote]
I just think he needs the practice.
[quote]trivium wrote:
[quote]SuperVillian wrote:
This is what your post sounds like… ‘I’m good looking, smart, athletic, polite, and hard working, why don’t girls like me?’
Hate to break it to you, but that’s exactly why they don’t like you. I’m assuming women find you boring and as an ideal option for a boyfriend… 3 or 4 years from now.
There is no edge to you, and given your aversion to approaching them directly and being branded as a creep your interest in them comes off as needy and desperate to have a girlfriend and not that you think they are fucking sexy and awesome.
You seem to be very Type A personality wise and you possibly try to curtail your aggression when it comes to interacting with women for fear of being seen as an asshole, but you gotta use it to your advantage. They will find it attractive, trust me.
Don’t change anything about yourself, you just gotta be more direct with women, you sound like you think pretty highly of yourself so express that in how you approach women.
You’re like a Vernon Gholston of dating, on paper you’re All-Pro, but you get on the field and you play like a bitch. Stop trying to get dates and try to get laid, the dates and relationships will come. Good luck and quit being such a pussy.
[/quote]
I do have an interesting past, but that has all had to end for me to be able to get to where I am now.
The whole too good thing is kind of hard to understand for me.
I can see being a good pick up for a 28-32 something, but I would think that some lucky young gal would want to get in on the action while the gettin is good.
On the second part of the post: Noted.
Thanks for the reply.[/quote]
(All of my assumptions about your personality and subsequent recommendations are based in overarching generalizations and founded mostly in my own experiences and observations that I feel I can relate to you and your situation)
“I do have an interesting past, but that has all had to end for me to be able to get to where I am now.”
Hence you being Type A, you’re cold and calculating in how you approach socializing and relationships, but you’re intelligent enough to know this isn’t normal. So, you can either go the Patrick Bateman/Barney Stinson route and fake it, which you’ve proven you can’t, be funny/sarcastic, or embrace it and be honest and direct to a fault which most women lack the ability or sense of independence to do and thus find very attractive in the opposite sex.
“The whole too good thing is kind of hard to understand for me.”
You’re not too good, you’re a dick, but you try to cover it up and you just come off as a nerd obsessed with working out and school. Anyone that thinks ‘I’m attractive, smart, athletic and driven, why don’t girls like me?’ clearly has the emotional intelligence of a dead hamster and has forgotten that you also need to interact, entertain, and share with people who you really are along with all those other traits. People and women especially can eventually tell when you’re just presenting a profile of yourself and not who you really are.
“I can see being a good pick up for a 28-32 something, but I would think that some lucky young gal would want to get in on the action while the gettin is good.”
No girl wants a smart, athletic, hard working, attractive, and sensitive boyfriend cause then where the hell do they fit in? You’re coming off like a serial killer, too good to be true and seemingly nervous and shy about your intentions. Embrace your faults. Girls like assholes because assholes have problems and most girls wanna be the one that breaks through their pain and is able to nurture and help them.
Captain America may be the All-American guy, but when shit gets real the Avengers rely on the Hulk, a giant angry son of a bitch that doesn’t give a shit, remember that.
[quote]orion wrote:
Well, a few thoughts.
Every IQ point above average means a rise of 3% of your chances of staying a virgin in highschool, I know you are not in highschool, I am just saying that intelligence is not exactly a plus when it comes to getting laid.
Then, you are the man, it is your job to get laid, it is her job to get you into a relationship.
YOU never try to get anyone into a relationship.
At best you get dragged in kicking and screaming into a relationship and you only let it happen because she is just that awesome.
You will come off as creepy sooner or later.
So?
Say whatever comes to your head, if you dont give a shit, they dont give a shit.
For example I explained that to a 19 year old girl that I though internet porn is ruining a whole generation of young men because I had to sneak a mail order catalogue to the bathroom in order to masturbate whereas now its only a mouseclick away, we had to show courage and initiative!
She looked around, checked if anyone was offended, nobody was, so she decided that she would not be either.
That was in a classroom full of people.
DO NOT DO THAT IN AN US UNIVERSITY!!!
You are to clever by half anyway, more balls, less brain. [/quote]
Listen to this man, he speaks truths and knowledge.
I remember having a conversation with a group of girls at a bar I worked at and they were talking about being able to tell how big a guy’s dick was or how good he was in bed by how he carried himself and approached women. Women notice these things, and it can make or break you before you even say a word to them.
After reading this and also finishing reading The Game (which i would recommend for anyone in your situation)
You do sound like an AFC but also your making too much of a big deal out of getting a lassy to go on a date with you.
Someone already mentioned about just trying to get laid and then the relationships will follow, even if you get back to a girls house from a nightout and don’t hump her then it could still lead somewhere.
Also, i would lay off on the “i have a new car, good looking, blah blah why dont they want me”, it does make you sound a liiiiiiiitle bit like this guy
Just settle down and don’t get too AFCish about it all
[quote]SuperVillian wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
Well, a few thoughts.
Every IQ point above average means a rise of 3% of your chances of staying a virgin in highschool, I know you are not in highschool, I am just saying that intelligence is not exactly a plus when it comes to getting laid.
Then, you are the man, it is your job to get laid, it is her job to get you into a relationship.
YOU never try to get anyone into a relationship.
At best you get dragged in kicking and screaming into a relationship and you only let it happen because she is just that awesome.
You will come off as creepy sooner or later.
So?
Say whatever comes to your head, if you dont give a shit, they dont give a shit.
For example I explained that to a 19 year old girl that I though internet porn is ruining a whole generation of young men because I had to sneak a mail order catalogue to the bathroom in order to masturbate whereas now its only a mouseclick away, we had to show courage and initiative!
She looked around, checked if anyone was offended, nobody was, so she decided that she would not be either.
That was in a classroom full of people.
DO NOT DO THAT IN AN US UNIVERSITY!!!
You are to clever by half anyway, more balls, less brain. [/quote]
Listen to this man, he speaks truths and knowledge.
I remember having a conversation with a group of girls at a bar I worked at and they were talking about being able to tell how big a guy’s dick was or how good he was in bed by how he carried himself and approached women. Women notice these things, and it can make or break you before you even say a word to them. [/quote]
Two wise men have spoken. You don’t need to wait for a third.
Go fucking get laid.
[quote]trivium wrote:
[quote]spar4tee wrote:
[quote]trivium wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
What the fuck is an AFC?[/quote]
AFC = average frustrated chump.[/quote]
So do you think you’re average or not?[/quote]
I had another Rough experience with the first girl I talked to. Went to say hello, and she bitched me out pretty hard. I just said that I didn’t mean to bother her, and told her to have a nice day. She ran after me to apologize. I just said that it was ok, and I turned around and walked away. I have no idea what I did.
[/quote]
I can see the disrespect point, but i honestly think that this would have been a good lesson for you on turning a negative situation into a positive. This chick flips out on you, seemingly for no reason, and them immediately runs after you to APOLOGIZE? What woman ever runs after someone to apologize for something they did wrong? This never happens. Instead of turning and walking away again, start with “its ok, everybody has their moments.” This could lead to introductions, you asking her out to coffee or a drink to “make up for this silly miscommunication,” or even asking her if shes just having a bad day or something. I think people are too quick to run away from things today, almost afraid of human interaction/rejection.
Im not saying by any means that you just missed out on your soulmate, but no matter how it turned out it would have been experience.
Do you talk a lot in real life? Gotta leave some stuff to their imagination, or be more “mysterious”
Talking less in social situations may make girls wonder about you more
And while being one on one with a girl it will give her a chance to talk about herself
[quote]carbidus quote:
Do you talk a lot in real life? Gotta leave some stuff to their imagination, or be more “mysterious”
Talking less in social situations may make girls wonder about you more
And while being one on one with a girl it will give her a chance to talk about herself[/quote]
Good advice^ From your OP I’d say the odds are you’re conversation skills are focused on creating openings for you to tell her how awesome you are. Shut up. Be interested in her, not interested in her interest in you. Make good, but not psychotic eye contact. Point you body language at her when/if it gets interesting. If her body language is pointing away still after a few minutes, you lost, exit politely. If you feel like a creep, you are.
I’m a cocktail geek, so hanging out in an upscale comes naturally for me. My best pickups were when I was there to enjoy, unwind, not on the hunt for another belt notch. Women tend to like relaxed confidence over leg humpers. Take some time to watch other guys’ attempts. Learn from their successes and failures.
[quote]Steel Nation wrote:
Stop trying to meet a girlfriend. Start trying to meet and engage with people in general. Focus on the process, not the prize. I believe this has been mentioned before but it’s worth repeating.[/quote]
This.
I had a period (when I was about your age), post-serious-relationship, where I was single (and dateless) for about a year. For much of that time, I started evaluating every girl that I met as a potential girlfriend. I wasn’t exactly “miserable” because other things in life were going well, but I had a similar vibe to the original post (the whole “I’m smart, funny, in good shape, SO WHY DON’T GIRLS LIKE ME?”)
This ended when I did what Steel Nation just recommended above: I just started talking to people and doing things instead of date-hunting. Chat up people at the gym, yoga studio, coffee shop. Be social with your classmates from school. When I started doing this stuff, I just started to carry myself better, looked happier and more confident, and eventually met my GF on a “non-date” (I just asked if she wanted to hang out after yoga class) that went so well we decided to make a go of it.
I also second the advice to be less narcissistic (I’m not sure you one off this way in actual conversation - granting you benefit of the doubt since you’re probably just trying to post all of the info here), and make sure that you’re just as interested in learning about HER as you are illustrating why you’re so awesome. This doesn’t mean you have to avoid talking about yourself entirely, but do so only if she asks or if she touches on something EASILY connected to an interest or hobby of yours.
[quote]TheKraken wrote:
[quote]carbidus quote:
Do you talk a lot in real life? Gotta leave some stuff to their imagination, or be more “mysterious”
Talking less in social situations may make girls wonder about you more
And while being one on one with a girl it will give her a chance to talk about herself[/quote]
Good advice^ From your OP I’d say the odds are you’re conversation skills are focused on creating openings for you to tell her how awesome you are. Shut up. Be interested in her, not interested in her interest in you. Make good, but not psychotic eye contact. Point you body language at her when/if it gets interesting. If her body language is pointing away still after a few minutes, you lost, exit politely. If you feel like a creep, you are.
I’m a cocktail geek, so hanging out in an upscale comes naturally for me. My best pickups were when I was there to enjoy, unwind, not on the hunt for another belt notch. Women tend to like relaxed confidence over leg humpers. Take some time to watch other guys’ attempts. Learn from their successes and failures. [/quote]
On a flip side, i wouldnt be too interested in her. If you show too much interest then you seem desperate. Instead, just try to be casual, strike up a conversation rather than making it feel like your grooming her.
[quote]mburns87 wrote:
After reading this and also finishing reading The Game (which i would recommend for anyone in your situation)
You do sound like an AFC but also your making too much of a big deal out of getting a lassy to go on a date with you.
Someone already mentioned about just trying to get laid and then the relationships will follow, even if you get back to a girls house from a nightout and don’t hump her then it could still lead somewhere.
Also, i would lay off on the “i have a new car, good looking, blah blah why dont they want me”, it does make you sound a liiiiiiiitle bit like this guy
Just settle down and don’t get too AFCish about it all
[/quote]
You know I felt the same after the OP wrote: “but I would think that some lucky young gal would want to get in on the action while the gettin is good.”
I had my assistant, who is a gorgeous 30 year old, read over my shoulder and she went: “ooh, that’s creepy”.
All the advice given isn’t gonna do you any good unless you get rid of the vibe you give off. Here’s a tip from my assistant: “Confidence is attractive, being full of yourself is a turn off to a quality woman”.
I’ve got nothing to add, 'cause I suck at women, but she’s a 9 out of 10 so I thought the OP might want to hear what she had to say.
[quote]mburns87 wrote:
[quote]TheKraken wrote:
[quote]carbidus quote:
Do you talk a lot in real life? Gotta leave some stuff to their imagination, or be more “mysterious”
Talking less in social situations may make girls wonder about you more
And while being one on one with a girl it will give her a chance to talk about herself[/quote]
Good advice^ From your OP I’d say the odds are you’re conversation skills are focused on creating openings for you to tell her how awesome you are. Shut up. Be interested in her, not interested in her interest in you. Make good, but not psychotic eye contact. Point you body language at her when/if it gets interesting. If her body language is pointing away still after a few minutes, you lost, exit politely. If you feel like a creep, you are.
I’m a cocktail geek, so hanging out in an upscale comes naturally for me. My best pickups were when I was there to enjoy, unwind, not on the hunt for another belt notch. Women tend to like relaxed confidence over leg humpers. Take some time to watch other guys’ attempts. Learn from their successes and failures. [/quote]
On a flip side, i wouldnt be too interested in her. If you show too much interest then you seem desperate. Instead, just try to be casual, strike up a conversation rather than making it feel like your grooming her. [/quote]
Important distinction! Be interested genuinely interested in her a fellow human, not as a new PR.
[quote]GetitUp wrote:
[quote]trivium wrote:
[quote]spar4tee wrote:
[quote]trivium wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
What the fuck is an AFC?[/quote]
AFC = average frustrated chump.[/quote]
So do you think you’re average or not?[/quote]
I had another Rough experience with the first girl I talked to. Went to say hello, and she bitched me out pretty hard. I just said that I didn’t mean to bother her, and told her to have a nice day. She ran after me to apologize. I just said that it was ok, and I turned around and walked away. I have no idea what I did.
[/quote]
I can see the disrespect point, but i honestly think that this would have been a good lesson for you on turning a negative situation into a positive. This chick flips out on you, seemingly for no reason, and them immediately runs after you to APOLOGIZE? What woman ever runs after someone to apologize for something they did wrong? This never happens. Instead of turning and walking away again, start with “its ok, everybody has their moments.” This could lead to introductions, you asking her out to coffee or a drink to “make up for this silly miscommunication,” or even asking her if shes just having a bad day or something. I think people are too quick to run away from things today, almost afraid of human interaction/rejection.
Im not saying by any means that you just missed out on your soulmate, but no matter how it turned out it would have been experience.[/quote]
Yeah that was one of the reasons I think he should’ve kept talking to her.