The worst part of the day was watching Matt Millen sloppily defend Paterno…it was just painful.
“Just because child abuse happened on his staff on his watch should not diminish in any way, his legacy.”
/barf
[quote]UtahLama wrote:
The worst part of the day was watching Matt Millen sloppily defend Paterno…it was just painful.
“Just because child abuse happened on his staff on his watch should not diminish in any way, his legacy.”
/barf[/quote]
Holy crap! That’s an ACTUAL quote?
Knowing what we NOW know… ugh.
[quote]UtahLama wrote:
The worst part of the day was watching Matt Millen sloppily defend Paterno…it was just painful.
“Just because child abuse happened on his staff on his watch should not diminish in any way, his legacy.”
/barf[/quote]
Sounds like something TBG would say. Paterno’s ‘Body of Work’ blah blah blah.
Paterno always reminded me of a mobster-type of guy. With his soft hoarse voice talking about Honor and Loyalty. Yes sir…Honor and Loyalty to his Family of friends.
[quote]UtahLama wrote:
The worst part of the day was watching Matt Millen sloppily defend Paterno…it was just painful.
“Just because child abuse happened on his staff on his watch should not diminish in any way, his legacy.”
/barf[/quote]
Paterno’s legacy is that he covered for a guy that liked to fuck kids. End of story.
I couldn’t give less of a shit that he won some football games, and neither should anyone else.
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
[quote]UtahLama wrote:
The worst part of the day was watching Matt Millen sloppily defend Paterno…it was just painful.
“Just because child abuse happened on his staff on his watch should not diminish in any way, his legacy.”
/barf[/quote]
Holy crap! That’s an ACTUAL quote?
Knowing what we NOW know… ugh.[/quote]
Fraid so…he said it during an interview I saw at lunch hence the Barf…I will try and effort some video.
Edit: this does not have the video I saw…but it sums ol’ Mill time nicely.
Good to see mob mentality is still alive and well.
[quote]QuadasarusFlex wrote:
Good to see mob mentality is still alive and well.[/quote]
Speaking of mob mentality, imagine if PSU DOESN’T get shut down. Things might get ugly.
You think the opposing players and fans are gonna be gentlemanly?
All the opponents have to do is think of Paterno, Sandusky, Spanier, et al, and PSU will get their heads bashed in.
Or do you think tempers regarding enabling child rape will have calmed down by gametime?
[quote]QuadasarusFlex wrote:
Good to see mob mentality is still alive and well.[/quote]
Yep 3 million e-mails and a 246 page report from a committee headed by a former director of the FBI…mob mentality, you betcha.
Lemme guess, ol’ Joepa did not know anything right? This is all somebody else’s problem right?
Attitudes like yours are what let this situation fester as long as it did.
Penn State nation needs to stay strong. This is unfortunate but the program will survive. You don’t cause change by just demolishing everything. You fix things to make them better and set an example of how things should be and how they can improve even if the circumstances are horrific. Penn State and its athletic department need to stay alive to remind people what happened and how it doesn’t need to happen at any institution like it again.
[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:
Penn State nation needs to stay strong. This is unfortunate but the program will survive. You don’t cause change by just demolishing everything. You fix things to make them better and set an example of how things should be and how they can improve even if the circumstances are horrific. Penn State and its athletic department need to stay alive to remind people what happened and how it doesn’t need to happen at any institution like it again.
[/quote]
I have no problem with this at all.
What caused that situation was absolute power, and absolute power inevitably corrupts.
It’s not something that you punish the current players or coaches for.
[quote]scj119 wrote:
I will band together with fellow Penn State alums. Do not take that as support for Sandusky or Paterno or anyone else in the Freeh report, they are all shitbags. They do not represent Penn State to me, nor should any 0.1percent of a group of people be considered representative of that entire group of people.[/quote]
I can’t believe this is something representative of your school in particular but sadly representative of humans.
I think people talk big about their own vigilante wishes in these circumstances but this whole episode just shows me that yet again when faced with the real deal most people close and in a position to act try to pretend it isn’t what it appears to be. I think that is what really needs to be talked about.
I honestly see no reason to believe all these guys in one place all at the same time are exceptions and other people in similar positions are different.
Which is even more depressing than the realization that these guys are worthless sacks–that they are not unique.
[quote]UtahLama wrote:
[quote]QuadasarusFlex wrote:
Good to see mob mentality is still alive and well.[/quote]
Yep 3 million e-mails and a 246 page report from a committee headed by a former director of the FBI…mob mentality, you betcha.
Lemme guess, ol’ Joepa did not know anything right? This is all somebody else’s problem right?
Attitudes like yours are what let this situation fester as long as it did. [/quote]
Im not saying the situation was deplorable but less than 10 people out of over 8,000 PSU employees are guilty. Thats not even 1%. I read online forums all day about how they should give the Football Program the death penalty,that Paternos statue should be destroyed,that the university should be burned to the ground,and that all diplomas received from that college should be void. See how all this shit spiraled out of control? Like I said before,convict those that were part of the cover up,compensate the victims,and move on.
I said it in the first thread about this fucking POS, JoePa had to know and he did not do anything about it but cover it up. PSU will take a lot of shit for a few years, but they will survive. I just hope anybody that was involved with the cover up gets burnt
[quote]QuadasarusFlex wrote:
[quote]UtahLama wrote:
[quote]QuadasarusFlex wrote:
Good to see mob mentality is still alive and well.[/quote]
Yep 3 million e-mails and a 246 page report from a committee headed by a former director of the FBI…mob mentality, you betcha.
Lemme guess, ol’ Joepa did not know anything right? This is all somebody else’s problem right?
Attitudes like yours are what let this situation fester as long as it did. [/quote]
Im not saying the situation was deplorable but less than 10 people out of over 8,000 PSU employees are guilty. Thats not even 1%. I read online forums all day about how they should give the Football Program the death penalty,that Paternos statue should be destroyed,that the university should be burned to the ground,and that all diplomas received from that college should be void. See how all this shit spiraled out of control? Like I said before,convict those that were part of the cover up,compensate the victims,and move on.[/quote]
99% of the folks on this thread have not said anything like that…but when your head coach of 50+ years, and the face of your university (along with the PRESIDENT of the university as well as the AD) take an active roll of covering up countless acts of child rape…folks tend to get a little upset, ya know.
[quote]gregron wrote:
LOL @ Scj… You know that’s what everyone’s gonna call you guys.
I can already see the signs up at College Game day of the Pedo Bear with a Penn State shirt on and the caption “Pedo State.”
You have to admit that it’s pretty funny.[/quote]
Oh I know it’s what people will say. I don’t find it funny at all to joke about. Part of it is because I’m a penn stater and don’t want to be connected with something I wasn’t involved with… part of it is just that I don’t find jokes about child molestation funny whatsoever. I never liked the pedobear shit before the PSU scandal.
[quote]UtahLama wrote:
[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:
Penn State nation needs to stay strong. This is unfortunate but the program will survive. You don’t cause change by just demolishing everything. You fix things to make them better and set an example of how things should be and how they can improve even if the circumstances are horrific. Penn State and its athletic department need to stay alive to remind people what happened and how it doesn’t need to happen at any institution like it again.
[/quote]
I have no problem with this at all.
What caused that situation was absolute power, and absolute power inevitably corrupts.
It’s not something that you punish the current players or coaches for.[/quote]
To me this is just one more example of what happens when we think of men as MORE than just men - i.e. that Paterno was a myth, legend, 100 percent everything good about the world. More often than not when a man is idolized as such - whether a leader of a country or something smaller like JoePa - we always find out that they were really just men, flawed like everyone else (and in some cases much more flawed than everyone else).
[quote]UtahLama wrote:
[quote]QuadasarusFlex wrote:
[quote]UtahLama wrote:
[quote]QuadasarusFlex wrote:
Good to see mob mentality is still alive and well.[/quote]
Yep 3 million e-mails and a 246 page report from a committee headed by a former director of the FBI…mob mentality, you betcha.
Lemme guess, ol’ Joepa did not know anything right? This is all somebody else’s problem right?
Attitudes like yours are what let this situation fester as long as it did. [/quote]
Im not saying the situation was deplorable but less than 10 people out of over 8,000 PSU employees are guilty. Thats not even 1%. I read online forums all day about how they should give the Football Program the death penalty,that Paternos statue should be destroyed,that the university should be burned to the ground,and that all diplomas received from that college should be void. See how all this shit spiraled out of control? Like I said before,convict those that were part of the cover up,compensate the victims,and move on.[/quote]
99% of the folks on this thread have not said anything like that…but when your head coach of 50+ years, and the face of your university (along with the PRESIDENT of the university as well as the AD) take an active roll of covering up countless acts of child rape…folks tend to get a little upset, ya know.
[/quote]
I saw someone on facebook saying they would turn in their diploma if it happened at their school.
The inability to separate unrelated things (like a few people doing heinous acts being irrelevant to how proud you should be of the other 99.9 percent of your institution) is just inconceivable to me.
Frankly what I’m most upset about is that they found out Paterno never included squats in our Strength program.
Too soon?
–one of our o-lineman was quoted as saying how he’s amazed how strong his legs are and he can’t believe he’s not getting blown off the line by the d-lineman in practice everyday. I was floored.
Lying about child rape will now be known as passing the paternoty test.
/imnotverygoodatthis
[quote]scj119 wrote:
[quote]UtahLama wrote:
[quote]QuadasarusFlex wrote:
[quote]UtahLama wrote:
[quote]QuadasarusFlex wrote:
Good to see mob mentality is still alive and well.[/quote]
Yep 3 million e-mails and a 246 page report from a committee headed by a former director of the FBI…mob mentality, you betcha.
Lemme guess, ol’ Joepa did not know anything right? This is all somebody else’s problem right?
Attitudes like yours are what let this situation fester as long as it did. [/quote]
Im not saying the situation was deplorable but less than 10 people out of over 8,000 PSU employees are guilty. Thats not even 1%. I read online forums all day about how they should give the Football Program the death penalty,that Paternos statue should be destroyed,that the university should be burned to the ground,and that all diplomas received from that college should be void. See how all this shit spiraled out of control? Like I said before,convict those that were part of the cover up,compensate the victims,and move on.[/quote]
99% of the folks on this thread have not said anything like that…but when your head coach of 50+ years, and the face of your university (along with the PRESIDENT of the university as well as the AD) take an active roll of covering up countless acts of child rape…folks tend to get a little upset, ya know.
[/quote]
I saw someone on facebook saying they would turn in their diploma if it happened at their school.
The inability to separate unrelated things (like a few people doing heinous acts being irrelevant to how proud you should be of the other 99.9 percent of your institution) is just inconceivable to me.[/quote]
Fair enough…but most heinous acts do not include the 5 most powerful people at the University.
That makes this somewhat unique.