But that’s what people want. People want to interpret their own lives as a narrative hence how willingly they define themselves by labels as the labels tell a story.
Here’s a summary: there has never been peace in the Middle East and there never will be. People are ignorant if they think otherwise.
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Well, with the right attitude, things can always get worse
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They say Israel has trapped the Palestinians behind walls. Did any of the wokesters research the reason behind what Israel did? Week after week of non-stop suicide and bus bombings killing scores of Israelis. What would a wokester say if they were sitting at a Starbucks cafe and their friends and possibly family members were wiped out by a suicide bomber? What would their solution be? Thankfully the Palestinians are not living in China or they’d be contained in concentration camps and facing extermination for their organs just for existing. How many wokesters condemn China for their crimes against their citizens? None, I’m guessing.
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Who would make their best friends, I mean iPhones.
Why did palestine/Hamas/the PA want to attack israel and why did they resort to these terroristic tactics? Has israel done anything to inflame, instigate, or worsen relations with palestine/hamas/PA? What are the palestinian demands, and what routes do they have available to negotiating/achieving those demands?
The woke folks i know are all about condemning the chinese treatment/attempedlowkey genocide of the uighurs.
Is this not true?
For provocation and expansion, obviously.
Because they are continuing the job Hitler was unable to finish. I mean this literally and those who know history know what I mean.
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Hamas and the PA are enemies.
Zero. Even if their demands would have been even somehow connected to reality, they’re not enforceable.
The Israeli political consensus agreed upon in the Netanyahu era is forever war - no pullback like the evacuation of settlements, no lip service to the two state solution, keep the Palestinians in ever shrinking bantustans and with the occasional “mowing of the grass” when a new generation of Hamas leadership reaches some level of proficiency.
In the meantime Hamas will be forcing women to make babies and kids to blow themselves up, build up new martyrs and waiting for something that would change the current status quo.
The big question that everybody seems to be missing is how the situation with Israeli Arabs will play out, which for at least a moment wrongfooted the Israeli establishment.
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Israeli Arabs, but also a handful of Arab countries making nice with Israel too, right?
Can you elaborate more?
Israeli Arabs did some serious rioting, burning down a synagogue among other things.
This “internal intifada” was a bogeyman of Israeli right wing decades in the 1970ies to the 2000ies, about the “domestic enemy” that is quietly making babies and getting ready to strike inside Israel proper and when it (on a small scale) came to fruition it freaked out those very same people that harped about it.
The official story goes like this - the Israeli Arabs should be content with their lot in life, they don’t live in the bantustans that are Gaza and the West Bank, have all the opportunities afforded by Israeli citizenship and (theoretically) face no discrimination.
Well, after these riots it appears that is not the case, especially for many Israel Arabs of the younger generation. And since demographics is everything in those parts of the world, that could be a problem.
In addition, you have increasingly influential belligerent rightwingers that resorted to armed vigilantism against Israeli Arab rioters and who won’t take kindly any efforts to placate them.
Hamas, despite their worst efforts, does not represent a serious threat to Israel, Iran and their proxies are too busy avoiding getting bombed by the US prodded by a formidable UAE/KSA/Israel colalition and the only reason to somewhat worry are the Israeli Arabs.
We’ll see how this plays out.
What’s the likelihood Israel goes full apartheid if there is a mass Israeli Arab protest movement? No bombings or terror, just mass protests with a smattering of property destruction?
A large far right nationalist group just received a permit to march through the Arab Market in Jerusalem so it seems like the Israeli govt is fine instigating more conflict.
I explained why Because Hamas was blowing up bus after bus filled with Israeli civilians.
Hamas resorted to these tactics in 2000-2002 to derail peace talks between Israel and PNA. They succeeded.
I actually know one who outright denies/thinks the genocide of uyghur Muslims is a hoax. Absolutely infuriating…
Can’t believe so many advocate for communism/socialism either (though interestingly I’ve yet to find one person who supports antifa, probably because the wokesters are generally very anti violence/conflict). Like “let’s implement this ideology regarding how to run society that has never worked out in practice before. Let’s forget all the atrocities that were associated with Stalinism! It’s just never been implemented correctly before!”
Haaaa
Its not true.
They trapped themselves behind the walls. It was their actions that forced the Israeli government to take these measures to protect their citizens.
“ If the Arabs put down their weapons today, there would be no more violence. If the Jews put down their weapons today, there would be no more Israel .” -Golda Meir
“Peace will come when the Arabs will love their children more than they hate us.” -Golda Meir
Plenty of concessions have come from the Israeli government over the years.
But lets state some facts first:
- Israel is the ancestral homeland of the Jewish diaspora.
- They have been forcefully exiled multiple times over a multiple millennia.
- There has always been a Jewish presence in the Levant.
- There has never been a sovereign independent Islamic “Palestine”. It was British mandate which was a spoil of war, from WW1 when Ottomans lost it who had control of it since 1516. Prior to that it was the Mongols for a short period, various other caliphates, the Romans, Babylonians/Persians. But never has it been a distinct sovereign Palestine.
- Jewish people have a right for self determination.
In 1948 Britain decided to give these poor bastards who had been massacred during the Holocaust some shit land that they said was their ancestral homeland. There was no oil, little infrastructure.
Just to let you know. The Jewish population currently is 14.7 million. In 1939 it was 17 million. They are still not at levels before the genocide.
There are 1.8 billion Muslims in the world. There are 50 Muslim majority countries in the world.
SO 14.7 million Jews one Jewish country vs 1.8 billion people and 50 countries.
Yeah who the fuck is the bully in this situation.
In 1948 the “Nakba” happened. What was the Nakba. That was when the Jews came to their homeland to take a tiny piece of shit bit of the land. The Brits had decided to divide it into two sections and the arabs said “No fucking way”. Thats a literal quote. If the arabs had won there would be no Jewish people in Israel today.
Also Palestinian in antiquity was a term reserved for Jewish people. It was not until the Jewish people returning to Israel decided to call the new country Israel that that name was totally re appropriated by the arabs.
Look at how many resolutions Israel has over a 60 year period by the UN and for instance compared it to Syria and the Assad regime. A man who is responsible for the displacement of millions of people and death of over half a million. Its fucking laughable.
If anyone has a problem with Israel. Its more likely you have a problem with Jews or your hatred of America and the West is so strong it spills over into a hatred of Israel.
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Baseless assertions. As if there’s never been a ceasefire. Read it again:
Only one day of ceasefire - if only? Only one single day of ceasefire is all it would take??
No, it is just propaganda.
Which 50 countries are bullying Israel?
How so?
Quantities of people or countries do not indicate qualities of bullying. Israelis bully Palestinians.
https://twitter.com/Timesofgaza/status/1405123847549067264?s=20
Are you trying to imply extermination of all Jewish presence in the Levant, or are you just saying it wouldn’t be called Israel?
Israel will continue to expand until prevented from expanding. Expansion is more important to the Israeli people than peace.
Israel is sufficiently far from perfection that there’s plenty of problems to have with Israel without having any hate towards anything or anyone.
Do you support the demolition of Masjed Al Aqsa?
Do you support a second Nakba? It is one of the threats jeered during the Flag Parade
Israel helped create Hamas. You can’t have a walled in area continuously shrink as the walls move without first having walls in the first place.
You answered your question your way, I answered your question another way. I doubt your question has been completely answered
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Let’s see some Palestinian cartoons about Jews. The Protocols of the Elders of Zion is taught as real in Arab nations.
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