Also, you dont offend me brother. My online disposition is just that of a total prick, so I’m sure every post I make seems like I’m either being rude or thought someone was being rude lol.
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There’s one compound I’m going to try because my source sells it… Mestanolone (methyldihydrotestosterone)… I’ll probably try that for 7-10 days… it’s not exactly UGL. It used to be sold OTC as a designer supplement, so said supplier has some of the stuff in the original bottles
it has affinity for the 3-HSD enzyme so within skeletal muscle that equates to ZERO anabolic activity
I see, I can understand where you come from,I wouldn’t let it bother me to much if I was you, there are a lot of things you can do or become, that might even pay off more and might be more doable, do u have any other passions or hobbies? Music or anything?
I actually have a good friend who’s around the same height, hes also into fitness, he also does it for the reason to compensate for height has a real good amount of muscle on his frame, he looks big for his height, but he doesnt seriously do bodybuilding as in try to earn with it or anything though, he actually ended up in bar as vip host and doing personal training at the gym, he has alot of people around him, he’s quite confident actually, but he used to be really insecure about his height when he was younger.
Ah about the women thing, yeah I didnt really mean to say that women are that important or should be the reason for motivation hehe, but I meant a lot of dudes with Bigorexia, in general a lot of bodybuilders think that it is truly attractive to be big as possible and they even get insecure when they drop below 200 pounds, while most of the general masses don’t even find that size appealing, it is more of a mental thing or insecurity, often a tic if you ask me.
I also used read fitness magazines when I was young, and watched looked up to like Arnold Scharzenegger in terminator 2, Jean Claude Van damme bloodsport, sly in rambo, watching those 80s movies with my dad growing up, that was the type of body I wanted, that’s what I wanted to look like, never really like a mass monster but more like an athlete or action star,
My dad himself was huge, worked out a lot and used to be in the army at a young age, he had traps so big you couldnt even see his neck lol, he also watched a lot of strongman shows on tv that I used to watch with him, so i sorta also grew up with that kind of influence, but still rather always wanted the movie look.
I do follow bodybuilding and powerlifing fanatically for entertainment, I find it interesting and fun to watch, but I do not wanna look like that myself.
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I’m passionate about medicine/pharmacy, I’m going into biomed next year. Music has been a huge part of my life, not to the extent that bodybuilding has though (it’s complicated), I play guitar.
I don’t think I have bigorexia, as I don’t see the need to get to that extreme size. I don’t think women particularly like it either. I wish to be the best version of myself that I possibly can be. I’m willing to use gear (within reason, so very conservatively), and perhaps down the road I’ll even run a proper cycle in my mid 20’s. I’m on TRT for life, so there’s a long time ahead of me for when I wish to make that decision
I see no reason why I can’t make incredible gains from say 75mg test 140mg deca (joint pain)… every now and then experiment with an oral for a week or two just to see how it makes me feel. My father wasn’t involved within bodybuilding, but my grandfather was (never met him, he died prior to my birth)… apparently he knew Reg Parks.
I still think that I’ll try my hand in competition one day… not to turn pro, but just to step on stage once
a net gain of 5 lbs isn’t something you’d want from, say, a 4-6 week cycle? I’d take that in a heartbeat.
The benefit of those temporary gains is essentially the training effect, not the temporary weight gain/water retention in and of itself. Being able to train harder, with heavier weights is a benefit in itself, which is why you end up with more muscle at the end of it.
Side note about anadrol: some people like both dbol and anadrol, but most people I’ve seen have a strong preference for one or the other. And everyone is different. I can take both but I MUCH prefer dbol. I’ve run dbol for like 6 months straight before at a low dose.
I get lab results. I’ve literally never had any elevated liver enzymes while taking anything. Not once. The only numbers I ever see out of range on full panels are creatinine, and usually just barely, and the hormone numbers related to what I’m taking.
I do have high blood pressure, but that runs in my family and I’ve been taking medication for it for longer than I’ve used gear. It’s managed well. I would say that would be my major concern though with steroids, it would be the first indicator to me that I needed to back off if it went up. I’ve only experienced really high blood pressure on my medication while doing water cuts, but that’s a different sort of stress.
that’s not necessarily true. I don’t see why anadrol HAS to be included, ever. There are dozens of orals out there that can do the job. Winstrol, anavar, epistane, dbol, tbol, halo, superdrol, dmz, msten… the list goes on. Anadrol isn’t THAT special, lol. It’s easily replaced.
Keeping blood pressure in check on AAS is one of the smartest things anyone can do. There was one study I recall seeing looking at the characteristics of AAS users vs nonusers… of course hearts were bigger comparative to nonusers, sympathetic dominance was present… but a huge variable that was strikingly obvious, and perhaps significantly contributed to the variables mentioned above was that statistically speaking the avg user in this study was SIGNIFICANTLY hypertensive (stage 2 hypertension)
Walk around with that day in day out for years and it’ll create serious complications for anyone
I would, but I’d prefer the five lbs to come on gradually rather than balloon up with 15, lose 10. Theres initially the notion of strain put under my body due to excess and rapid weight gain… I’ve already got some nasty stretch marks on my pecs and shoulders from TRT alone. Secondly I believe putting on so much “size” so rapidly might be psychologically reinforcing for me, hence perhaps if were to use one 50mg Androl tab daily for 3 weeks… I’d be so intoxicated with the results I’d be temped to increase the dosage the next go around (and I’d want to use it again)… eventually I’m running 100mg daily for 5 weeks at a time without any real justification as to why other than “it’s recreational drug use and it’s fun” (for my case, not others)
I’d like to think I’d have more self control than this… but then I recall weightliftingwithoutlimits
He was natural, had a “natty elitist” vibe, hopped on… over the next 6 months his first cycle transformed dramatically
- 675 mg test weekly
- 675mg test weekly + dbol
- 1g test weekly + dbol
- drop test, add 350mg tren
- ramps tren up, is eventually using 2g weeky
- uses a ton of SDROL (starts going hypoglycaemic, complains on a thread about himself almost slipping into a coma… but refuses to get bloods)
- uses this for months… eventually comes to state he’s dropped the tren because he acquired jaundice… will just be blasting high dosages of other compounds year round now
I believe a facet of mental instability/illness must’ve been present to begin with, considering he was doing this “to compete” but had never actually competed within an untested meet before. I tend to be very conservative when it comes to gear. Had I been competing and/or payed for exercising it’d be a very different story. I harbour no judgement towards those that use higher dosages (if they know what they’re doing). But when people say to me (in real life or online) “nah you need at least 500mg of this, 400mg of that… you can’t use orals for a week, at least 4 weeks at 40-60mg daily” etc… I don’t HAVE to do anything… as a matter of fact I theoretically shouldn’t be doing anything besides strictly TRT (the nandrolone is somewhat justifiable given a therapeutic effect is garnered), yet I do
Thank God someone else is saying this. I’m constantly annoyed with the test comparison.
Would you say 200mg tren is stronger than 1000mg test? Or the other way round?
No you can’t even compare them. One is a natural hormone in your body the other is a completely foreign substance with completely different MOAs.
And we all respond differently
some people are prone to these water weight gains, but not everyone. I don’t get them. Some slight water retention, but not a ton. I get 5-7 lbs of it generally. If that.
correct.
I mean… I think you can make the generalisation tren is stronger than test… if not I can certainly say it’s harsher for the majority (lipids, neurologically, kidneys, cardiorespiratory effect) etc.
give anyone 1000mg test vs 1000mg tren, the results would be superior from tren no?
Sure we can say that 500mg of tren is stronger then 500mg of test even tho they are two entirely different things. But yes il agree that I got more gains off using tren then I did test. I also don’t use test above 250mg a week because I don’t use test to build muscle because that’s not what I feel it’s intended use is for.
And yes obviously tren is harsher on the body BECAUSE it’s not a natural hormone.
But neither is primo… and tren is a hell of a lot harsher than primo, masteron, eq etc
There are case reports of those developing heart failure within 6-12 months of initiating tren use (obviously an exception to the norm, a predisposition probably exists)… But I can’t think of any other AAS besides methyltren… that’s about it… that could induce such a dramatic response so quickly, even in those with the worst of genetics barring undiagnosed cardiac defects already being present… test isn’t going to induce heart failure within a year
Right but again this is trying to compare two different things. I’m in no way shape or form trying to down play the potential negative side effects of tren. Im simply suggesting trying to compare drugs mg to mg is not beneficial.
A gram of Marijuana is less harsh then a gram of heroin. Someone who smokes a gram of Marijuana for the first time will be different then someone who sniffs a gram of heroin for their first time (that will result in almost sure death FYI)
You see what im getting at tho? Yes they are all anabolic and androgenic that is about the only similarity you can make.
Honestly I’d rather see someone compare deca to primo or tren to mast then anything compared to testosterone.
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Yes, and I’m inclined to agree with you on all fronts. The way A/A ratios are measured remain flawed. an A/A ratio is measured via a compounds ability to induce prostatic hypertrophy (androgenic) or hypertrophy within the levator ani muscle (anabolic) mg/mg within a rat compared to base testosterone… Rats have different metabolic/elimination pathways, different receptor locations etc…
For instance DHT is listed as having a high anabolic rating within the A/A ratio, but rats don’t have 3 HSD within skeletal muscle (of which inactivates pure DHT into diol metabolites that harbour no direct anabolic activity)… so for rats DHT is a potent anabolic, for humans pure DHT won’t do much in terms of eliciting a hypertrophic response.
What you’re saying makes the point both ways. If it is easily replaced by anything else, then these opposite is also true. No reason to try it… but no reason to avoid it
sure there is. if you don’t think you’ll tolerate the sides well. I avoided it for a long time for this reason. And when I tried it, it wasn’t special, so I haven’t bought it again. The reason to avoid it is that you can use/combine other drugs that are known for having less sides and get comparable results. Anavar and Epistane can absolutely be combined for some awesome results, comparable to similarly dosed anadrol, and the sides for most people are significantly less.
Honestly though, ‘I just don’t want to do it’ is a plenty good reason not to try any given compound, because there are always other routes to the goal. Especially in bodybuilding, I don’t really think anadrol is even very good for that goal.
welp, plenty of other people think it’s great, and don’t get bad sides from it. unreal won’t know what camp he’s in until he tries it.
You also have to understand unreal posts so much, a lot of us probably know him better than he’d thinks we do. Just like with dbol, where he ran like 10-20mg a day for like 2 weeks, he could certainly try 25-50mg drol fur the same period of time without major downsides. He def wont gain 16lbs of water like he fears.
Adrol alone wasn’t a big favorite of mine. Same when I run dbol alone they both to me are meh.
When I combine the two tho I get amazing results.
Let it be noted I get little to no sides from either of the two except for the occasional hand pumps which can be uncomfortable if you have a job that involves labor using your hands. I notice it mostly when cooking and I’m chopping or dicing food.
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So far I havent really added it into my cycle. I saving it for the 6 weeks right before my meet. But Ive used 50mg preworkout more than a handful of times over the last 5 or 6 weeks and I love the rush I get from it. Definitely makes me stronger immediately and I’m excited to see what a full 6 weeks on will be like. Also havent noticed my weight deviate from the typical trend on days I’ve used it.
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