[quote]MassiveGuns wrote:
[quote]VTBalla34 wrote:
[quote]Singhbuilder wrote:
[quote]BigSkwatta wrote:
Suppressing your pituitary from releasing LH by taking hcg while taking clomid and nolva to stimulate your pituitary to release LH makes no sense though. Hcg has an active life of what, 64 hours I think, if I remember correctly⊠So you should either move the hcg to day 13 and start PCT on day 16, if you insist on doing the hcg on day 16, you might as well wait until day 19 to start the nolva and clomidâŠ
I have never heard of atrophy in a day or two. That is very odd to me. I really wouldnât normally think hcg is needed for a 2 weeker, but if it is what you feel comfortable doing then who am I to tell you otherwise.
As for the mast, that may be more by the individual. Not sure if you have personal experience with mast but one of the guys I train with has comparable results from mast and tren, just less sides and has to pay a little more for mast, although he seems to respond well to any DHT based compound. Personally I gain very little muscle from tren, but lose fat and get stronger.
Whether you decide to take everyoneâs advice or not good luck.
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Im not quite sure where you read/heard that hCG will suppress LH production at the pituitary. If you could outline the mechanism by which hCG directly suppresses LH production it will be informative to me.
I think you may be confusing the LH suppression by OESTROGEN produced from the use of hCG, not hCG directly.
The hCG will cause testosterone production, which can aromatise and result in oestrogen suppressing the pituitary from releasing LH.
In which case I believe such a small dose will not cause significant increase in testicular aromatase thus the resulting elevated oestrogen.
However I understand the point you are trying to make so I will wait a couple of days between my last hCG pin and commencement of SERM.
I have used mast before, I like the hard look it gives to the muscle but cannot compare it to the anabolic effects of Tren.
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HCG will absolutely suppress LH production by way of feedback from the testoterone production it causes. Your body sees it has adequate testosterone production (caused by hcg) and shuts down LH production to compensate. This is basic.
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Iâm not flaming here but I can tell you from experience, bloodwork and some literature if I can dig it up that dosing HCG for UP TO ONE MONTH AT 300IU PER DAY PRODUCES LITTLE NEGATIVE FEEDBACK ON THE HPTA. Any supression compared to AAS is absolutely minimal, ideally you want to finish the HCG just as the AAS clears your system but it isnât going to hurt going over.
I would run test and tren only, and Iâd go for a gram a week of tren with about 150mg of test, thats all youâll need. If youâre worried about prop pain remember youâll be injecting small volumes and if you mix it up with the tren it should hardly hurt at all. And test suspension is NOTHING like tren. Itâs great stuff but it really doesnât compare in any way. Your cycle will feel a lot better with test in there.
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This is also my stance in regards to low-dose hCG useage. I think the suppression from hCG is slightly over-rated, however I do agree that with higher blasts it may be a cause for concern.
This is good news to me, I wanted to use Tren but I thought it might suppress me too much and I might be shutdown again for a year. So my cycle would become 2 weeks on/1 year off, 2 weeks on/1 year off LOL JK.
Gram of Tren, wow that would completely warp me physique wise even with higher levels of development. I have never used high amounts of AAS, max Iâve used of Tren was 350mg/wk and my gains were STUPID to say the least, near enough a pound of muscle a day all while retaining my 28inch waist.
SB
