Trayvon Martin Pt. 3.. The Legacy Pt. 2

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[quote]Waittz wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]gorillavanilla wrote:
There is some evidence that recent inequality in Florida’s justice system exists.
I don’t have all the facts in front of me presently but recently a woman in the Miami, Florida area fired a gun in the air to scare her husband that had been abusing her. I believe their were some trumped up charges brought against her for trying to kill her husband. The woman was arrested and sentenced after a jury deliberated for something like 12 minutes to 20 years in prison. The woman was black.
That’s proof to me that there is definitely a big, huge problem in equity with handing out justice to blacks as opposed to whites, or hispanics.[/quote]

It is quite clear you do not have all the facts. Because you are ignoring quite a few.

But, keep pushing “dats racist” because anyone that reads up on the Alexander case can clearly see what happened, and it had jack and shit to do with her skin color.

[quote]If a white man had been killed by a black man on neighborhood watch we’d be not reading, or seeing the case in the media because it wouldn’t matter. The black man would be sentenced to some horrendous sentence, end of story(Maybe a quick mention on the local news).
There is no end to the unrighteousness.[/quote]

http://rochester.ynn.com/content/top_stories/490926/jury-finds-roderick-scott-not-guilty/

Kid he shot was white.

Enjoy the crow you’re eating. [/quote]

So where are the activist websites for signing up to protest against this verdict?

I’m sure as hell going to be contacting my local blind celebrity to get a boycott started.[/quote]

I had mentioned this case a few pages back. The funniest thing is, I or the rest of the country never heard of it(it was back in 2009) nor would have if it wasnt for this case. [/quote]

That particular article doesn’t even mention race. Interesting…

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[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
Well, we have a crazy black guy harrassing a black lady and lunged at her with a knige who finally shot the guy at a gas station today.

It’s on video.

http://www.khou.com/news/crime/Argument-leads-to-fatal-shooting-in-southeast-Houston-216412611.html

Justice for Poochie! He ain’t hurt nobody. (According to his brother.)[/quote]

LOL…and people thought I was crazy to look around for shit like this in Houston at 3am in the morning?

LOL at the clueless.

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[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]gorillavanilla wrote:
There is some evidence that recent inequality in Florida’s justice system exists.
I don’t have all the facts in front of me presently but recently a woman in the Miami, Florida area fired a gun in the air to scare her husband that had been abusing her. I believe their were some trumped up charges brought against her for trying to kill her husband. The woman was arrested and sentenced after a jury deliberated for something like 12 minutes to 20 years in prison. The woman was black.
That’s proof to me that there is definitely a big, huge problem in equity with handing out justice to blacks as opposed to whites, or hispanics.[/quote]

It is quite clear you do not have all the facts. Because you are ignoring quite a few.

But, keep pushing “dats racist” because anyone that reads up on the Alexander case can clearly see what happened, and it had jack and shit to do with her skin color.

[quote]If a white man had been killed by a black man on neighborhood watch we’d be not reading, or seeing the case in the media because it wouldn’t matter. The black man would be sentenced to some horrendous sentence, end of story(Maybe a quick mention on the local news).
There is no end to the unrighteousness.[/quote]

http://rochester.ynn.com/content/top_stories/490926/jury-finds-roderick-scott-not-guilty/

Kid he shot was white.

Enjoy the crow you’re eating. [/quote]

A lot of people are trying to push the role reversal angle.

What if a white Martin had been shot by a bloodied and battered black Neighborhood Watch Zimmerman. Accepting that “white” is an acceptable description of the true Zimmerman, for the sake of the argument.

Well, the jurors got to hear that the actual Martin, black Martin, said “Creepy ass Cracka.”

Hmm, well in a role reversal the jurors would’ve heard that white Martin had said "Creepy ass [black racial slur] shortly before Zimmerman was mounted and beaten in a one-sided fight.

I don’t think black Zimmerman would make out so bad in this case.

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[quote]thehebrewhero wrote:

[quote]Jewbacca wrote:

[quote]thehebrewhero wrote:

[quote]Sloth wrote:
George Zimmerman, who has been in hiding since he was acquitted of murder in the death of Trayvon Martin, emerged to help rescue someone who was trapped in an overturned truck, police said today.

Looks like a PR stunt… Im sure between hidding for his life he found the time… Please tell me it was black dude.

Next week he will broker a deal between the bloods & crips, negotiates the Paquioa Mayweather deal, and bring peace to the middle east.[/quote]

Your kind of stupidity is not good for the Jews.[/quote]

Neither is pandering to the here comes honey boo boo crowd that has historically been a equal oportunity offender when it comes to race, ethnicity, and sexual orientation. Remeber the majority followed hitler as well
[/quote]

I stongly recommend against aliyah for you.

You’d find too many of what you would call “honey boo boo” Jews in my home for your liberal sensibilities.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
Well, we have a crazy black guy harrassing a black lady and lunged at her with a knige who finally shot the guy at a gas station today.

It’s on video.

http://www.khou.com/news/crime/Argument-leads-to-fatal-shooting-in-southeast-Houston-216412611.html

Justice for Poochie! He ain’t hurt nobody. (According to his brother.)[/quote]

LOL…and people thought I was crazy to look around for shit like this in Houston at 3am in the morning?

LOL at the clueless.[/quote]

Pissing off a woman in cammo pants is just asking for it.

Also, bringing a knife to a gun fight.

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[quote]Waittz wrote:
On the topic of it not being fair to stereotype people for wearing sagging pants as criminals… really? Pant sagging is a fashion trend that originated from prisonwear and popularized by ganster rap, a music genre that romanticized criminal activity. Dont want to be steriotyped based on your fashion? Pull your pants up.

I dont see many people driving windowless vans complaining about being steriotyped as a pedobear.

Also, gorillavanilla I also am a white male living in Orlando. That doesnt mean my opinion on the lack of racism here prior to this event makes it a fact. Not sure how yours does. [/quote]
Don’t waste your breath on the clothing. I already tried that line of thought and was shot down by big X

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[quote]Jewbacca wrote:

[quote]thehebrewhero wrote:

[quote]Jewbacca wrote:

[quote]thehebrewhero wrote:

[quote]Sloth wrote:
George Zimmerman, who has been in hiding since he was acquitted of murder in the death of Trayvon Martin, emerged to help rescue someone who was trapped in an overturned truck, police said today.

Looks like a PR stunt… Im sure between hidding for his life he found the time… Please tell me it was black dude.

Next week he will broker a deal between the bloods & crips, negotiates the Paquioa Mayweather deal, and bring peace to the middle east.[/quote]

Your kind of stupidity is not good for the Jews.[/quote]

Neither is pandering to the here comes honey boo boo crowd that has historically been a equal oportunity offender when it comes to race, ethnicity, and sexual orientation. Remeber the majority followed hitler as well
[/quote]

I stongly recommend against aliyah for you.

You’d find too many of what you would call “honey boo boo” Jews in my home for your liberal sensibilities.[/quote]

Jew fight! I go against the winner! There can only be one!

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[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]Waittz wrote:
On the topic of it not being fair to stereotype people for wearing sagging pants as criminals… really? Pant sagging is a fashion trend that originated from prisonwear and popularized by ganster rap, a music genre that romanticized criminal activity. Dont want to be steriotyped based on your fashion? Pull your pants up.

I dont see many people driving windowless vans complaining about being steriotyped as a pedobear.

Also, gorillavanilla I also am a white male living in Orlando. That doesnt mean my opinion on the lack of racism here prior to this event makes it a fact. Not sure how yours does. [/quote]
Don’t waste your breath on the clothing. I already tried that line of thought and was shot down by big X
[/quote]

Cause your a racist whitey.

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All in all. I’m pretty sure our great grandkids are going to look back at this and think we were all assholes, to be honest.

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[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]Waittz wrote:
On the topic of it not being fair to stereotype people for wearing sagging pants as criminals… really? Pant sagging is a fashion trend that originated from prisonwear and popularized by ganster rap, a music genre that romanticized criminal activity. Dont want to be steriotyped based on your fashion? Pull your pants up.

I dont see many people driving windowless vans complaining about being steriotyped as a pedobear.

Also, gorillavanilla I also am a white male living in Orlando. That doesnt mean my opinion on the lack of racism here prior to this event makes it a fact. Not sure how yours does. [/quote]
Don’t waste your breath on the clothing. I already tried that line of thought and was shot down by big X
[/quote]

That is because it isn’t logical.

I don’t see sagging pants as the social stigma you do…because I understand that culture.

You are stereotyping every man with a fashion trend as a CRIMINAL when that isn’t the case at all…and you think it is ok simply because it is “majority opinion”.

Minorities don’t share that view…so why should they pull their pants up because YOU don’t accept it?

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[quote]Waittz wrote:

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]Waittz wrote:
On the topic of it not being fair to stereotype people for wearing sagging pants as criminals… really? Pant sagging is a fashion trend that originated from prisonwear and popularized by ganster rap, a music genre that romanticized criminal activity. Dont want to be steriotyped based on your fashion? Pull your pants up.

I dont see many people driving windowless vans complaining about being steriotyped as a pedobear.

Also, gorillavanilla I also am a white male living in Orlando. That doesnt mean my opinion on the lack of racism here prior to this event makes it a fact. Not sure how yours does. [/quote]
Don’t waste your breath on the clothing. I already tried that line of thought and was shot down by big X
[/quote]

Cause your a racist whitey. [/quote]

:frowning: and you’re a meany

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]Waittz wrote:
On the topic of it not being fair to stereotype people for wearing sagging pants as criminals… really? Pant sagging is a fashion trend that originated from prisonwear and popularized by ganster rap, a music genre that romanticized criminal activity. Dont want to be steriotyped based on your fashion? Pull your pants up.

I dont see many people driving windowless vans complaining about being steriotyped as a pedobear.

Also, gorillavanilla I also am a white male living in Orlando. That doesnt mean my opinion on the lack of racism here prior to this event makes it a fact. Not sure how yours does. [/quote]
Don’t waste your breath on the clothing. I already tried that line of thought and was shot down by big X
[/quote]

That is because it isn’t logical.

I don’t see sagging pants as the social stigma you do…because I understand that culture.

You are stereotyping every man with a fashion trend as a CRIMINAL when that isn’t the case at all…and you think it is ok simply because it is “majority opinion”.

Minorities don’t share that view…so why should they pull their pants up because YOU don’t accept it?[/quote]

Yes and the culture was born from prison and gangster rap. So…

Also I never said i don’t except it. Don’t put words in my mouth. I would never dress like that because for one its ridiculous to have to hold my pants up and it’s quite uncomfortable IMO. Also I know that the majority of people would make assumptions about why I dress like that and it would hurt my opportunities in school and jobs

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You all prove my point! Buttons so easy to push. Ha, ha,ha,…

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]Waittz wrote:
On the topic of it not being fair to stereotype people for wearing sagging pants as criminals… really? Pant sagging is a fashion trend that originated from prisonwear and popularized by ganster rap, a music genre that romanticized criminal activity. Dont want to be steriotyped based on your fashion? Pull your pants up.

I dont see many people driving windowless vans complaining about being steriotyped as a pedobear.

Also, gorillavanilla I also am a white male living in Orlando. That doesnt mean my opinion on the lack of racism here prior to this event makes it a fact. Not sure how yours does. [/quote]
Don’t waste your breath on the clothing. I already tried that line of thought and was shot down by big X
[/quote]

That is because it isn’t logical.

I don’t see sagging pants as the social stigma you do…because I understand that culture.

You are stereotyping every man with a fashion trend as a CRIMINAL when that isn’t the case at all…and you think it is ok simply because it is “majority opinion”.

Minorities don’t share that view…so why should they pull their pants up because YOU don’t accept it?[/quote]

All I am saying is that when a fashion trend is based on a criminal trend and popularized by those romanticizing criminal behavior dont be suprised when people stereotype it as criminal related. To not do so and justify it as ‘I get it because I am black’ means that you do not in fact get it.

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[quote]Waittz wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]Waittz wrote:
On the topic of it not being fair to stereotype people for wearing sagging pants as criminals… really? Pant sagging is a fashion trend that originated from prisonwear and popularized by ganster rap, a music genre that romanticized criminal activity. Dont want to be steriotyped based on your fashion? Pull your pants up.

I dont see many people driving windowless vans complaining about being steriotyped as a pedobear.

Also, gorillavanilla I also am a white male living in Orlando. That doesnt mean my opinion on the lack of racism here prior to this event makes it a fact. Not sure how yours does. [/quote]
Don’t waste your breath on the clothing. I already tried that line of thought and was shot down by big X
[/quote]

That is because it isn’t logical.

I don’t see sagging pants as the social stigma you do…because I understand that culture.

You are stereotyping every man with a fashion trend as a CRIMINAL when that isn’t the case at all…and you think it is ok simply because it is “majority opinion”.

Minorities don’t share that view…so why should they pull their pants up because YOU don’t accept it?[/quote]

All I am saying is that when a fashion trend is based on a criminal trend and popularized by those romanticizing criminal behavior dont be suprised when people stereotype it as criminal related. To not do so and justify it as ‘I get it because I am black’ means that you do not in fact get it. [/quote]

Damn I should of not replied. You worded it better

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[quote]gorillavanilla wrote:
You all prove my point! Buttons so easy to push. Ha, ha,ha,…[/quote]

The whole people said I am wrong and backed it up, guess I must resort to the ‘Im just a moron trying to get people to respond to my irrational statements for kicks’ defense is played out buddy.

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[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]Waittz wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]Waittz wrote:
On the topic of it not being fair to stereotype people for wearing sagging pants as criminals… really? Pant sagging is a fashion trend that originated from prisonwear and popularized by ganster rap, a music genre that romanticized criminal activity. Dont want to be steriotyped based on your fashion? Pull your pants up.

I dont see many people driving windowless vans complaining about being steriotyped as a pedobear.

Also, gorillavanilla I also am a white male living in Orlando. That doesnt mean my opinion on the lack of racism here prior to this event makes it a fact. Not sure how yours does. [/quote]
Don’t waste your breath on the clothing. I already tried that line of thought and was shot down by big X
[/quote]

That is because it isn’t logical.

I don’t see sagging pants as the social stigma you do…because I understand that culture.

You are stereotyping every man with a fashion trend as a CRIMINAL when that isn’t the case at all…and you think it is ok simply because it is “majority opinion”.

Minorities don’t share that view…so why should they pull their pants up because YOU don’t accept it?[/quote]

All I am saying is that when a fashion trend is based on a criminal trend and popularized by those romanticizing criminal behavior dont be suprised when people stereotype it as criminal related. To not do so and justify it as ‘I get it because I am black’ means that you do not in fact get it. [/quote]

Damn I should of not replied. You worded it better
[/quote]

Just remember it is not ok to stereotype goth kid’s fashion as an attempt to get attention because they dont give a fuck about what you think…

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]Waittz wrote:
On the topic of it not being fair to stereotype people for wearing sagging pants as criminals… really? Pant sagging is a fashion trend that originated from prisonwear and popularized by ganster rap, a music genre that romanticized criminal activity. Dont want to be steriotyped based on your fashion? Pull your pants up.

I dont see many people driving windowless vans complaining about being steriotyped as a pedobear.

Also, gorillavanilla I also am a white male living in Orlando. That doesnt mean my opinion on the lack of racism here prior to this event makes it a fact. Not sure how yours does. [/quote]
Don’t waste your breath on the clothing. I already tried that line of thought and was shot down by big X
[/quote]

That is because it isn’t logical.

I don’t see sagging pants as the social stigma you do…because I understand that culture.

You are stereotyping every man with a fashion trend as a CRIMINAL when that isn’t the case at all…and you think it is ok simply because it is “majority opinion”.

Minorities don’t share that view…so why should they pull their pants up because YOU don’t accept it?[/quote]

Some minorities do.

Kenneth Stokes that it refers to in the story is a black typically liberal leaning democrat.

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[quote]jbpick86 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]Waittz wrote:
On the topic of it not being fair to stereotype people for wearing sagging pants as criminals… really? Pant sagging is a fashion trend that originated from prisonwear and popularized by ganster rap, a music genre that romanticized criminal activity. Dont want to be steriotyped based on your fashion? Pull your pants up.

I dont see many people driving windowless vans complaining about being steriotyped as a pedobear.

Also, gorillavanilla I also am a white male living in Orlando. That doesnt mean my opinion on the lack of racism here prior to this event makes it a fact. Not sure how yours does. [/quote]
Don’t waste your breath on the clothing. I already tried that line of thought and was shot down by big X
[/quote]

That is because it isn’t logical.

I don’t see sagging pants as the social stigma you do…because I understand that culture.

You are stereotyping every man with a fashion trend as a CRIMINAL when that isn’t the case at all…and you think it is ok simply because it is “majority opinion”.

Minorities don’t share that view…so why should they pull their pants up because YOU don’t accept it?[/quote]

Some minorities do.

Kenneth Stokes that it refers to in the story is a black typically liberal leaning democrat.[/quote]

Dude, if he doesnt agree with Professor X he isnt a minority.

See what I did there? Har har har…

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[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]Waittz wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]Waittz wrote:
On the topic of it not being fair to stereotype people for wearing sagging pants as criminals… really? Pant sagging is a fashion trend that originated from prisonwear and popularized by ganster rap, a music genre that romanticized criminal activity. Dont want to be steriotyped based on your fashion? Pull your pants up.

I dont see many people driving windowless vans complaining about being steriotyped as a pedobear.

Also, gorillavanilla I also am a white male living in Orlando. That doesnt mean my opinion on the lack of racism here prior to this event makes it a fact. Not sure how yours does. [/quote]
Don’t waste your breath on the clothing. I already tried that line of thought and was shot down by big X
[/quote]

That is because it isn’t logical.

I don’t see sagging pants as the social stigma you do…because I understand that culture.

You are stereotyping every man with a fashion trend as a CRIMINAL when that isn’t the case at all…and you think it is ok simply because it is “majority opinion”.

Minorities don’t share that view…so why should they pull their pants up because YOU don’t accept it?[/quote]

All I am saying is that when a fashion trend is based on a criminal trend and popularized by those romanticizing criminal behavior dont be suprised when people stereotype it as criminal related. To not do so and justify it as ‘I get it because I am black’ means that you do not in fact get it. [/quote]

Damn I should of not replied. You worded it better
[/quote]

I think the issue with this really stems from where one is riding in the “perception train”.

What this style is born of, and what it is evolving to represent are two different things. And X is at the front of the train as far as seeing the evolution, and people outside the communities where it is evolving are at the back of the train.

X, and I’m not trying to put words into his mouth, has eluded to Black culture in America as being in its infancy stage, and that is relatively true. Shit American culture in and of itself is relatively young, when compared to other civilizations in the world. It isn’t outlandish to look and see a group of people that were systematically withheld from making their place in the world by their government taking quite a few generations to fall into a cultural system that works for them, and within the larger society to which they belong.

In short, things don’t always mean what they did 10 and 15 years ago.