Trayvon Martin Pt. 3.. The Legacy Pt. 2

[quote]Jewbacca wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]dmaddox wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]Sloth wrote:
George Zimmerman, who has been in hiding since he was acquitted of murder in the death of Trayvon Martin, emerged to help rescue someone who was trapped in an overturned truck, police said today.

What a moron. [/quote]

The people that have vilified Zimmerman?
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No Zimmerman.

How did trying to help, pan out the last time?[/quote]

How sad.

Zimmerman rescues a family from a wrecked truck and people still attack him.

It’s like up is down and hot is cold.[/quote]

I’m not trying to vilify the act, I’m talking about it from his perspective.

If I were Zimmerman, I would not go out of my way to help someone in the community after the last time basically ruined my life.

Is Zimmerman white?

[quote]bdocksaints75 wrote:
Is Zimmerman white?[/quote]

He’s the multiracial/multiethnic, multicultural, bilingual, non-protestant, registered Democrat face of diversity. This guy’s face and background would have made it into the minority recruitment material of a university. The diversity section of their student hand book would also feature him.

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]Jlabs wrote:
Also having white privilege works into our favour because theres been many times when police officers will let you off with warnings instead of charging you because you are lighter skinned.[/quote]

Prove this with any sort of factual information or stop with this.

I’ve seen enough white people get busted, searched illegally (myself included), pulled over, and hassled by police to know this is utter bullshit.[/quote]

Do you believe in the concept of white privilege?
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No.

I could accept the argument we have a caste system that gives “privilege” (I prefer the term advantage) to certain upper class individuals. Upper class individuals tend to be white, which is a function of non-white folks (mainly black people) being systematically wronged by our government for so many generations.

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That is the definition of “white privilege”.[/quote]

I reject the name on the premise that rich non-whites don’t have advantages as well.

There are social advantages that come with having and/or making money that trump skin color.

Society didn’t hand me shit, or make a single thing easier on me because I was white. I had to work just as hard as anyone that came from similar economic demographics. However, I wasn’t born poor in inner-city Baltimore. So I didn’t have the same statistically chance of being shot, or otherwise turned upside down by the failed war on drugs, or war on street crime. This isn’t privilege, it is chance.

Feeling is mutual.

I just want to nitpick a little here. I feel like governed is the wrong word. I do know what you are trying to say, so I’ll just leave it at that. Your point is valid, just the wording I’m not a huge fan of.

Sure, but a white guy in a leathers, tats and on a Harley? (Black guy too, look what they did to Allen West because he rides.) White guy in a Cowboy hat and gun rack in a pickup? Shit, these days, White guy in a suit reading the Journal anywhere near Wall St?

People judge, that is never going away. Since the dawn of civilization people have typically shunned (more-so in hard times) those different than them. This doesn’t appear to ever being going away either. The only way we will solve it is by starting to look at ourselves as American first and foremost. We are in this shit together, and it is high time we started acting like it, because the government is slowly but surely taking away our liberty, white, black and everything in=between.

It takes a long time for perception to change, social change is also dependent on time and effort. Hip hop, which is equated with black culture by and large (whether that is right worng or indifferent, it is), isn’t the same “shoot fuckers” “bitches all be hoe’s” “sell some crack” story line that a whole lot of people think of when you say rap or hip hop. (I will say women still get shit on pretty hard in that genre of music, anyway) However, as it becomes more and more main stream this is becoming more and more evident. (I would argue that hip hop is in its “hair metal” phase, like rock in the 80’s.)

Things are changing, acting like they aren’t is silly. Comparing the MArtin killing to lynching’s (you haven’t but some have) is counter productive to this change. Shit, in some ways interjecting race into the Martin case is silly, but it was bound to happen, and I guess people can’t live without swaths of people hating each other.

I look at the kids shows my daughter watches. Any one that isn’t talking animals, is as diverse as it gets. She loves Yo Gabba Gabba. Whoever wrote that show is smoking a shit ton of weed, but DJ Lance is “dabba” to her. Dora? What I’m saying is there will be an entire generation of kids that grow up with different perceptions, different views and different tastes.

Is it possible for us assholes to not fuck that up?

[quote]Sloth wrote:
George Zimmerman, who has been in hiding since he was acquitted of murder in the death of Trayvon Martin, emerged to help rescue someone who was trapped in an overturned truck, police said today.

Looks like a PR stunt… Im sure between hidding for his life he found the time… Please tell me it was black dude.

Next week he will broker a deal between the bloods & crips, negotiates the Paquioa Mayweather deal, and bring peace to the middle east.

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

That is the definition of “white privilege”.

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lol yep

you beat me to it.

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I think I am more bothered that anyone tries to act like this isn’t the case.

It seems so…obvious.[/quote]

Because I’ve read enough world history to know that skin color is moot. Power is king, and a cache of resources = power. In today’s world, money is resources.

In short, Had the races been reversed, it would be, falsely, labeled “black privilege”.

[quote]Sloth wrote:

[quote]bdocksaints75 wrote:
Is Zimmerman white?[/quote]

He’s the multiracial/multiethnic, multicultural, bilingual, non-protestant, registered Democratic face of diversity. This guy’s face and background would have made it into the minority recruitment material of a university. The diversity section of their student hand book would also feature him.
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So no?

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]Jewbacca wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]dmaddox wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]Sloth wrote:
George Zimmerman, who has been in hiding since he was acquitted of murder in the death of Trayvon Martin, emerged to help rescue someone who was trapped in an overturned truck, police said today.

What a moron. [/quote]

The people that have vilified Zimmerman?
[/quote]

No Zimmerman.

How did trying to help, pan out the last time?[/quote]

How sad.

Zimmerman rescues a family from a wrecked truck and people still attack him.

It’s like up is down and hot is cold.[/quote]

I’m not trying to vilify the act, I’m talking about it from his perspective.

If I were Zimmerman, I would not go out of my way to help someone in the community after the last time basically ruined my life.

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Maybe it’s just the type of guy he is? He wanted to be an officer, he wanted to be a judge…his father was a judge. He probably very strongly believes in “justice”.

[quote]thehebrewhero wrote:

[quote]Sloth wrote:
George Zimmerman, who has been in hiding since he was acquitted of murder in the death of Trayvon Martin, emerged to help rescue someone who was trapped in an overturned truck, police said today.

Looks like a PR stunt… Im sure between hidding for his life he found the time… Please tell me it was black dude.

Next week he will broker a deal between the bloods & crips, negotiates the Paquioa Mayweather deal, and bring peace to the middle east.[/quote]

Your kind of stupidity is not good for the Jews.

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]Jewbacca wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]dmaddox wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]Sloth wrote:
George Zimmerman, who has been in hiding since he was acquitted of murder in the death of Trayvon Martin, emerged to help rescue someone who was trapped in an overturned truck, police said today.

What a moron. [/quote]

The people that have vilified Zimmerman?
[/quote]

No Zimmerman.

How did trying to help, pan out the last time?[/quote]

How sad.

Zimmerman rescues a family from a wrecked truck and people still attack him.

It’s like up is down and hot is cold.[/quote]

I’m not trying to vilify the act, I’m talking about it from his perspective.

If I were Zimmerman, I would not go out of my way to help someone in the community after the last time basically ruined my life.

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Ah, much more reasonable that I interpreted it.

I think what we have here is the fact Zimmerman is a mensch, and doesn’t care how it turns out for himself.

It’s a rare thing.

[quote]thehebrewhero wrote:

Looks like a PR stunt… Im sure between hidding for his life he found the time… Please tell me it was black dude.

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Yes because the whole racial war thing wasn’t a PR deal?

I can’t believe your vote counts

If you live in Florida and you are getting your ass beat you are allowed to shoot the person beating your ass to death. Seems so fair. Hmm…what a great guy Zimmerman is. Self appoint yourself to be a neighborhood watchman and then do as you please. It’s all good. Maybe Zimmerman will elect himself sheriff next and pass some new laws he thinks are righteous. What a great guy!

[quote]Smashingweights wrote:

[quote]Smashingweights wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

Is this why blacks commit so many more crimes than whites?[/quote]

How would you know who is doing more crime?

Crime stats only tell who got caught for crime.

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lol
Please spare us with this nonsense.
According to the FBI statistics blacks committed 433,934 crimes against whites and whites committed 55,685.
Are you really trying to infer that every single black person who committed a crime against a white person was caught while nearly 380,000 whites got away with their crimes against a black individual?

That’s what it would take to swing the numbers the opposite direction.
Really?
Come on son.[/quote]
Reporting this from the end of the last thread since it didn’t have a chance to get a response.[/quote]
Any response to this?
I read your last reply to DB Copper where you talk vague generalities without every having to actually say anything.
That’s your MO, everyone knows this, but do you care to address the ACTUAL numbers?
Obviously not all crime is reported, therefore it is a percentage of the actual crimes, but based on what was reported blacks are SOGNIFICANTLY more likely to commit crimes against whites than the opposite.
The whole argument of “not all crime is even reported though!” argument goes both ways.
Not all black on white crime is reported and not all white on black crime is reported.
Still, black on white crime is VASTLY more likely than white on black.

Any response or will you ignore this like you ignored my post in the other thread where you lied and made up quotes from other people to support your argument and talk down to others?

[quote]rehanb_bl wrote:

Yes because the whole racial war thing wasn’t a PR deal?

I can’t believe your vote counts[/quote]

And this relates to what most angered me about this case.

It started as White guy kills…

Some serious blow back commences.

To White-Hispanic kills…

Forget any indigenous/mestizo heritage. Or the Afro-peruvian line in his family. Just forget that’s multiracial/ethnic. It’s not sexy enough for headlines. Shoe horn “white” in there somewhere.

“White-black President’s DoJ investigates white-Hispanic for possible federal case.”

The first Zimmerman sighting since his acquittal.

[quote]gorillavanilla wrote:
If you live in Florida and you are getting your ass beat you are allowed to shoot the person beating your ass to death. Seems so fair. Hmm…what a great guy Zimmerman is. Self appoint yourself to be a neighborhood watchman and then do as you please. It’s all good. Maybe Zimmerman will elect himself sheriff next and pass some new laws he thinks are righteous. What a great guy! [/quote]

He was elected by his peers as neighborhood watch coordinator, you fucking retard.

It’s rumored that Casey Anthony and Zimmerman will get married. The perfect couple living in the shadows and definitely innocent.

Hey assface(legendaryblaze), that’s not how he began doing the watching. And, I live here where all this crap has been in my face since the beginning. It’s so funny to watch every one commenting on this and getting so ludicrous and angry about something you will never ever have any thing to do with or control any part of or be any part of. So, screw yourself with your own stupidity.

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

That is the definition of “white privilege”.

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lol yep

you beat me to it.

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I think I am more bothered that anyone tries to act like this isn’t the case.

It seems so…obvious.[/quote]

Because I’ve read enough world history to know that skin color is moot. Power is king, and a cache of resources = power. In today’s world, money is resources.

In short, Had the races been reversed, it would be, falsely, labeled “black privilege”. [/quote]

…it would also still apply and still hold true.

Unfortunately, the blacks lost that round and had to contend with being genetically engineered to be “bigger, stronger, faster”.

lol.

[quote]gorillavanilla wrote:
Hey assface(legendaryblaze), that’s not how he began doing the watching. And, I live here where all this crap has been in my face since the beginning. It’s so funny to watch every one commenting on this and getting so ludicrous and angry about something you will never ever have any thing to do with or control any part of or be any part of. So, screw yourself with your own stupidity.[/quote]

“In September 2011, the Twin Lakes residents held an organizational meeting to create a neighborhood watch program. Zimmerman was selected by neighbors as the program’s coordinator, according to Wendy Dorival, Neighborhood Watch organizer for the Sanford Police Department.[4][4][68]”